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| Vigilance Monitoring 2004-02-02, 9:34 pm |
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I was wondering if anyone knew of any computer monitoring software
that might be worth looking at. I am currently using BMC Patrol
which leaves a lot to be desired in terms of reliability and support.
I have a lot of experience with HP Openview which does not meet my
business needs.
Requirements:
Agent based, ideally runs as a mortal user, not root.
Server piece runs on UNIX, ideally Linux
Features and User Interface similar to HP OVO or BMC Patrol
Reliable event management database, ideally using something like
mysql
Has good security features (encryption, proxy, etc) that will make
monitoring over the Internet feasible.
Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
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| Dave Hinz 2004-02-03, 12:34 am |
| On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 01:40:27 -0800, Vigilance Monitoring <no_spam@aracnet.com> wrote:quote:
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> I was wondering if anyone knew of any computer monitoring software
> that might be worth looking at. I am currently using BMC Patrol
> which leaves a lot to be desired in terms of reliability and support.
> I have a lot of experience with HP Openview which does not meet my
> business needs.
Check out BigBrother at http://bb4.com - free for most users, cheap for
those who it is not free for, and has a deluxe version if you want to
get fancy.
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> Requirements:
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> Agent based, ideally runs as a mortal user, not root.
Yes.
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> Server piece runs on UNIX, ideally Linux
Yes, either.
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> Features and User Interface similar to HP OVO or BMC Patrol
Check out the demo at bb4.com and you tell me. Click on the dots; red is
bad, green is good...
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> Reliable event management database, ideally using something like
> mysql
Not sure, flexible reporting to extract and export data. Lots of
very readable shell scripts and other resources are available for it
at deadcat.net
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> Has good security features (encryption, proxy, etc) that will make
> monitoring over the Internet feasible.
Yup.
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> Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
Take a look at BigBrother - they also have a very active mailing list
full of helpful folks, and an extensive (searchable) archive of same.
An install from scratch should take you a couple of hours to get up
and running; customized tests (CPU temperature or whatever) are trivial
to add as well.
Dave Hinz
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| Gary Schmidt 2004-02-03, 11:34 am |
| Vigilance Monitoring wrote:quote:
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> I was wondering if anyone knew of any computer monitoring software
> that might be worth looking at. I am currently using BMC Patrol
> which leaves a lot to be desired in terms of reliability and support.
> I have a lot of experience with HP Openview which does not meet my
> business needs.
>
> Requirements:
>
> Agent based, ideally runs as a mortal user, not root.
> Server piece runs on UNIX, ideally Linux
> Features and User Interface similar to HP OVO or BMC Patrol
> Reliable event management database, ideally using something like
> mysql
> Has good security features (encryption, proxy, etc) that will make
> monitoring over the Internet feasible.
>
> Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
>
Disclaimer: I am about to recommend software that I work on...
If you want to watch your Oracle DBs, I/Watch - http://quest.com/i_watch
If you have lots of other things, FogLight - http://quest.com/foglight
I would have recommneded BigBrother (which we own too) but you want an
agent-based solution.
Cheers,
Gary B-)
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| Scott Richardson 2004-02-03, 12:34 pm |
| "Vigilance Monitoring" <no_spam@aracnet.com> wrote in message
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> I was wondering if anyone knew of any computer monitoring software
> that might be worth looking at. I am currently using BMC Patrol
> which leaves a lot to be desired in terms of reliability and support.
> I have a lot of experience with HP Openview which does not meet my
> business needs.
>
> Requirements:
>
> Agent based, ideally runs as a mortal user, not root.
> Server piece runs on UNIX, ideally Linux
> Features and User Interface similar to HP OVO or BMC Patrol
> Reliable event management database, ideally using something like
> mysql
> Has good security features (encryption, proxy, etc) that will make
> monitoring over the Internet feasible.
>
> Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
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Hello,
If you want to look at security and syslogs & such - try Open Service
www.open.com
If you want to look at Performance - try www.deltek.us - the DPMonitor.
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| Dave Hinz 2004-02-03, 12:34 pm |
| On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 12:06:30 +1100, Gary Schmidt <Gary.Schmidt@oz.quest.com> wrote:
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> I would have recommneded BigBrother (which we own too) but you want an
> agent-based solution.
Er, what about the bb installation isn't agent-based, please? There's
a BBDISPLAY host which has the webpage & database, and then for anything
other than basic monitoring (ping/services/etc) there's an agent that
gets installed on the system to be monitored. Maybe we have different
definitions or something?
Dave Hinz
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| Gary Schmidt 2004-02-03, 5:33 pm |
| Dave Hinz wrote:quote:
> On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 12:06:30 +1100, Gary Schmidt <Gary.Schmidt@oz.quest.com> wrote:
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> Er, what about the bb installation isn't agent-based, please? There's
> a BBDISPLAY host which has the webpage & database, and then for anything
> other than basic monitoring (ping/services/etc) there's an agent that
> gets installed on the system to be monitored. Maybe we have different
> definitions or something?
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> Dave Hinz
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The last time I looked at bb it ran shell scripts to collect data, and
the agent collected the data from them and sent it, as opposed to having
an agent that just collected the data and sent it.
I could not look too closely as at the time bb was still owned by its
creators, and I did not want to risk any copyright problems as I was
working on I/Watch and FogLight.
And I haven't looked since because I haven't had the time.
Cheers,
Gary B-)
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| Dave Hinz 2004-02-03, 11:35 pm |
| On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 17:24:17 +1100, Gary Schmidt <Gary.Schmidt@oz.quest.com> wrote:quote:
> Dave Hinz wrote:
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> The last time I looked at bb it ran shell scripts to collect data, and
> the agent collected the data from them and sent it, as opposed to having
> an agent that just collected the data and sent it.
It depends on what you're watching. If you have a custom monitoring
need (say, query some process to make sure it's sane), then that's an
external script which you can write in whatever you'd like (deadcat.net
has dozens (hundreds?) of examples). but, the bb agent that is
installed on the box then sends the info to the BBDISPLAY host
for logging, alerting, and display.
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> I could not look too closely as at the time bb was still owned by its
> creators, and I did not want to risk any copyright problems as I was
> working on I/Watch and FogLight.
Ah, yeah, sometimes not studying the other product is appropriate in one's,
er, Quest for knowledge.
Dave Hinz
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| Devdas Bhagat 2004-02-21, 4:34 am |
| On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 01:32:28 GMT, Scott Richardson <CheetahFTL@attbi.com> poured
into the usenet group comp.unix.admin:[color=blue]
> "Vigilance Monitoring" <no_spam@aracnet.com> wrote in message
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Perhaps Nagios http://nagios.sourceforge.net/ in conjunction with net-snmp
(http://net-snmp.sourceforge.net) and OpenNMS http://www.opennms.org/ would
suffice for your needs?
<snip>[color=blue]
I wouldn't use reliable and mysql in the same sentence, unless there is a
negation involved.
Devdas Bhagat
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| Scott Richardson 2004-02-21, 3:33 pm |
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"Devdas Bhagat" <devdas@users.sourceforge.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 01:32:28 GMT, Scott Richardson <CheetahFTL@attbi.com>
poured
> into the usenet group comp.unix.admin:
> Perhaps Nagios http://nagios.sourceforge.net/ in conjunction with net-snmp
> (http://net-snmp.sourceforge.net) and OpenNMS http://www.opennms.org/
would
> suffice for your needs?
> <snip>
> I wouldn't use reliable and mysql in the same sentence, unless there is a
> negation involved.
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> Devdas Bhagat
Monitoring software?
DPMonitor. Performance Monitor, with Probes to test for condtions/situations
or thresholds and be able to take pre-programmed auto-responses, or actions
against such. www.deltek.us - Check out screen shots at Examples link on the
home page.
Scott
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| Scott Richardson 2004-02-22, 3:34 am |
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"Devdas Bhagat" <devdas@users.sourceforge.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 01:32:28 GMT, Scott Richardson <CheetahFTL@attbi.com>
poured
> into the usenet group comp.unix.admin:
> Perhaps Nagios http://nagios.sourceforge.net/ in conjunction with net-snmp
> (http://net-snmp.sourceforge.net) and OpenNMS http://www.opennms.org/
would
> suffice for your needs?
> <snip>
> I wouldn't use reliable and mysql in the same sentence, unless there is a
> negation involved.
>
> Devdas Bhagat
Another suite of products to consider for sceurity would be from
www.open.com - Nerve Center, Security Threat Manager, SystemWatch, and Open
Management Console.
And yet another product to cosider is Argent (www.argent.com ...)
What are you specifically looking for in a monitoring product?
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| "Scott Richardson" <CheetahFTL@attbi.com> wrote in message news:<I55_b.375922$xy6.1939573@attbi_s02>...[color=blue]
> "Devdas Bhagat" <devdas@users.sourceforge.net> wrote in message
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> poured
TeamQuest monitoring sware is worth a look , if a little pricy
Heck , they even port to Dynix !
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| Dave Hinz 2004-02-24, 12:34 am |
| On 23 Feb 2004 00:58:53 -0800, Ed <jedbeer@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> TeamQuest monitoring sware is worth a look , if a little pricy
> Heck , they even port to Dynix !
Big Brother (http://www.bb4.com) is free for most users and adequate
for almost everything I want it to do. Online demo and all that.
Dave Hinz
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| "Vigilance Monitoring" <no_spam@aracnet.com> wrote in message news:<c1jfoh0rjs@enews3.newsguy.com>...
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> Thanks for the suggestions.
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> I am currently using BMC Patrol and have a great deal of experience
> with HP OVO, so I'm looking for something with similar capabilities.
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> Patrol would be "ok" if it actually worked but the new Patrol 7/3.5
> stuff is just loaded with bugs. Patrol also has a very weak event
> browser. Patrol agent pricing for > 2 CPU servers is prohibitive.
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> OVO has an excellent Oracle based event browser but the agent and
> monitoring connections all run as root which is unacceptable in my
> application. Also, HP Support has become dismally bad over the past
> couple of years. At $70k for the server plus $700 per agent, it's a
> bit pricey.
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> Basically, I need out-of-the box monitoring capabilities for
> monitoring server CPU, network, filesystem, etc. traffic and size.
> The ability to *EASILY* monitor log files and to be able to send
> messages about things that are logged to the event browser.
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> SPI/KM support for common applications is important as I don't care
> to spend my life programming this stuff. Also a good SNMP trap
> manager and event display would be great. Something that runs on
> Linux is preferred.
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> Essentially, a product that has the features of the BMC Patrol agents
> and knowledge modules coupled with a strong event browser at a
> reasonable cost would be prefect.
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> If you check out or web page at http://www.vigilancemonitoring.com
> you can see what we are trying to accomplish. We are currently able
> to deliver on "high end" monitoring as a BMC Partner although keeping
> it running has been a real challenge. We have several "low end"
> offerings that are rock solid.
I heard that AdRem NetCrunch is quite popular soft among the network
consultants. It allows to create a separate map of nodes, which is
helpful to indentify the individual client. There's comming a new
version of this soft, which is more advance then the old one.
-frost-
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| Mark Daniels 2004-03-17, 4:41 pm |
| OVO and Tivoli are my least favorites. From an admin perspective, Big
Brother works well for me.
Mark
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| In article <7ee5b960.0403171220.61d25fdc@posting.google.com>, Mark Daniels wrote:
> OVO and Tivoli are my least favorites. From an admin perspective, Big
> Brother works well for me.
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> Mark
I wrote something similiar to BB that is tailored to my environment.
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