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Semi-OT question re: Hacking
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| JanelleC 2004-09-22, 9:21 pm |
| I recently posted several messages to some usenet newsgroups under a
pseudonym. In hostile replies to my posts, a poster used my real name. I
did not know the poster, but I did some research on his usenet nym and found
out he is a frequent poster to alt.hackers.malicious and alt.2600.
My question is, How did he get my real name? I had not posted any messages
under my real name. I have checked the headers of every post I made, and
not one contains my real name or email address or anything else that could
identify me, as far as I know. I have checked and can find no evidence of
spyware on my computer. I have gone back and checked the suspicious
websites I visited recently, studied the html source code and found no code
or controls that were clearly used to read cookies.
So, How did he get my name?
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| JanelleC 2004-09-22, 9:21 pm |
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"S. Anthony Sequeira" <tony@sequeira.org.uk> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.09.18.19.34.50.226039@sequeira.org.uk...
> On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 19:01:26 +0000, JanelleC penned:
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> Do you own any domains?
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> Tony
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Yes, but I didn't post from them. I posted from earthlink.net. Honestly, I
don't think there is anything in the post headers that could be traced back
to me. I've studied them. The tracepath is from earthlink's nntp server.
What I'm really beginning to suspect is that he called up my isp under some
official pretense or has a friend at the isp. I've noticed that there is a
small group of people who seem to magically get the names of other posters.
I'm wondering if they are friendly sysadmins or something.
Is this something that happens on the usenet? Can people who know people
just call up an isp like earthlink, give them a Message-ID and get the
poster's account information? Or can they hack into earthlink?
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| phn@icke-reklam.ipsec.nu 2004-09-22, 9:21 pm |
| JanelleC <janellec@spam.not> wrote:
> I recently posted several messages to some usenet newsgroups under a
> pseudonym. In hostile replies to my posts, a poster used my real name. I
> did not know the poster, but I did some research on his usenet nym and found
> out he is a frequent poster to alt.hackers.malicious and alt.2600.
> My question is, How did he get my real name? I had not posted any messages
> under my real name. I have checked the headers of every post I made, and
> not one contains my real name or email address or anything else that could
> identify me, as far as I know. I have checked and can find no evidence of
> spyware on my computer. I have gone back and checked the suspicious
> websites I visited recently, studied the html source code and found no code
> or controls that were clearly used to read cookies.
> So, How did he get my name?
Do your pseudonym shows up in google ? "JanelleC" gives 138 hits ...
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Peter Håkanson
IPSec Sverige ( At Gothenburg Riverside )
Sorry about my e-mail address, but i'm trying to keep spam out,
remove "icke-reklam" if you feel for mailing me. Thanx.
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| Stefaan A Eeckels 2004-09-22, 9:21 pm |
| On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 19:01:26 GMT
"JanelleC" <janellec@spam.not> wrote:
> So, How did he get my name?
Without access to the name you used, or the messages
you posted, it's difficult to say anything, Ms. Campbell.
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Stefaan
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"What is stated clearly conceives easily." -- Inspired sales droid
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| Chris Cox 2004-09-22, 9:21 pm |
| Stefaan A Eeckels wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 19:01:26 GMT
> "JanelleC" <janellec@spam.not> wrote:
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> Without access to the name you used, or the messages
> you posted, it's difficult to say anything, Ms. Campbell.
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Not Denis A.?
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| JanelleC 2004-09-22, 9:21 pm |
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"Stefaan A Eeckels" <tengo@DELETEMEecc.lu> wrote in message
news:20040919134513.71fc6a89.tengo@DELETEMEecc.lu...
> On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 19:01:26 GMT
> "JanelleC" <janellec@spam.not> wrote:
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> Without access to the name you used, or the messages
> you posted, it's difficult to say anything, Ms. Campbell.
It's difficult for you to say anything because you're an arrogant idiot.
BTW, my name is not Campbell. It isn't even Janelle. LOL.
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> Stefaan
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> "What is stated clearly conceives easily." -- Inspired sales droid
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| Laurenz Albe 2004-09-22, 9:21 pm |
| JanelleC <janellec@spam.not> wrote:
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> It's difficult for you to say anything because you're an arrogant idiot.
How do you expect people to help you on an off-topic question if you
reply to their (admittedly smartass) requests for more information
with insult?
Laurenz Albe
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| Stefaan A Eeckels 2004-09-22, 9:21 pm |
| On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 19:14:04 -0500
Chris Cox <notccox@notairmail.net> wrote:
> Stefaan A Eeckels wrote:
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> Not Denis A.?
Maybe. Who knows? This is USENET, after all.
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Stefaan
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"What is stated clearly conceives easily." -- Inspired sales droid
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| Stefaan A Eeckels 2004-09-22, 9:21 pm |
| On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 06:52:14 GMT
"JanelleC" <janellec@spam.not> wrote:
> "Stefaan A Eeckels" <tengo@DELETEMEecc.lu> wrote in message
> news:20040919134513.71fc6a89.tengo@DELETEMEecc.lu...
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> It's difficult for you to say anything because you're an arrogant idiot.
Oh dear, a sensitive nature. No wonder you upset the
trolls on "some usenet newsgroup".
> BTW, my name is not Campbell. It isn't even Janelle. LOL.
Sorry to hear that. Janelle is a really nice name.
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Stefaan
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"What is stated clearly conceives easily." -- Inspired sales droid
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| Dave Hinz 2004-09-22, 9:21 pm |
| On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 06:52:14 GMT, JanelleC <janellec@spam.not> wrote:
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> "Stefaan A Eeckels" <tengo@DELETEMEecc.lu> wrote in message
> news:20040919134513.71fc6a89.tengo@DELETEMEecc.lu...
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> It's difficult for you to say anything because you're an arrogant idiot.
> BTW, my name is not Campbell. It isn't even Janelle. LOL.
You know, you come into a group asking for help, someone posts a response
you don't like, and you respond like this rather than ignoring it? That's
a good way to get exactly nobody interested in spending any time at all
helping _you_ with _your problem_.
Bye, whoever you are. You're on your own. I might have spent time on
this, but not now.
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| Mike Easter 2004-09-22, 9:21 pm |
| Laurenz Albe wrote:
> How do you expect people to help you on an off-topic question if you
> reply to their (admittedly smartass) requests for more information
> with insult?
Not to excuse JanelleC for rebuttal style or Stefaan A for a pretty bad
guess, but...
It appears to me that JanelleC was using some unknown persona handle/addy
when s/he was posting in some unknown ng/s where hir identity sleuth aka
'troll' was encountered - and is exploring the answers to her questions
using a different and new persona handle/addy in this ng and in
earthlink.support.usenet [limited to EL newsservers].
I asked about the other personas and groups in the EL group.
Naturally or understandably s/he doesn't want to expose the information
about the other personas [hirs or the sleuth's] or newsgroups because hir
identity was exposed in that venue, so it would be easily discoverable by
all in this or other groups where s/he asks.
But, you are absolutely correct. The response to the bad guess got hir
nowhere useful. Silence or 'Not!' would've been better.
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Mike Easter | http://www.verifiedvoting.org
Voter-Verified Paper Trail for 2004 Elections
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| Mike Easter 2004-09-22, 9:21 pm |
| Mike Easter wrote:
> where hir
> identity sleuth aka 'troll' was encountered
Disregard the 'troll' aka -- the identity sleuth was only referred to as
a 'hostile...poster' who also posts to alt.2600 &
alt.hackers.malicious -- the term troll was never used by JanelleC.
However, the identity sleuthing was miscalled 'identity theft' in the EL
group.
Naturally I'm over here in this group in a completely offtopic thread
posting to myself because one little trail led me here.
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Mike Easter | http://www.verifiedvoting.org
Voter-Verified Paper Trail for 2004 Elections
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