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| Dan Bensen 2007-12-17, 1:29 pm |
| I have a Q about linux networking (getting my home pc on
the net). Is this the right forum, or is there a better
one for that topic?
Here's a dump of my current situation:
* new ATT/Yahoo dsl service, they said it was up last week
* dsl modem connected to ethernet card and phone outlet
* modem's POWER and DSL lights turned green
* low-pass filters on all telephones & answering machine
* su'd and ran
# ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 mtu 1500 up
# route add -net 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 dev eth0
* modem's ETHERNET light turned green
* Yahoo's installation page says
"Point your browswer to http://192.168.0.01 to register."
* Firefox can't find the server at 192.168.0.1.
* ???
I've also tried about a million other things but still haven't
reached Yahoo's registration page. What else could be the
problem?
--
Dan
www.prairienet.org/~dsb/
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| Lew Pitcher 2007-12-17, 1:29 pm |
| On Dec 17, 12:56 pm, Dan Bensen <randomg...@cyberspace.net> wrote:
> I have a Q about linux networking (getting my home pc on
> the net). Is this the right forum, or is there a better
> one for that topic?
>
> Here's a dump of my current situation:
>
> * new ATT/Yahoo dsl service, they said it was up last week
> * dsl modem connected to ethernet card and phone outlet
> * modem's POWER and DSL lights turned green
> * low-pass filters on all telephones & answering machine
> * su'd and ran
> # ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 mtu 1500 up
> # route add -net 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 dev eth0
Why these specific commands? More specifically, where did you get the
192.168.0.1 address from in the first command? What did you expect
these commands to do?
> * modem's ETHERNET light turned green
> * Yahoo's installation page says
> "Point your browswer tohttp://192.168.0.01to register."
> * Firefox can't find the server at 192.168.0.1.
With the ifconfig commands that you say you issued, you assigned the
address 192.168.0.1 to your own computer. Are you running a web server
on your own computer? Wny would you (or Yahoo) expect that /your/
webserver would complete the Yahoo registration?
> * ???
[snip]
My suspicion is that you have misconfigured your eth0, in that it /
should not/ be assigned the 192.168.0.1 address. More likely, given
your description of the DSL modem's behaviour, you should have started
a dhcp client on your Linux system, and let it acquire an address from
the DSL modem (which is acting as a PPP protocol stack/firewall/router/
gateway/DHCP server). Once your system acquires it's dynamic address
from the MODEM, you will find that the MODEM has a webserver running
at http://192.168.0.1/ and it is this webserver that you are supposed
to access to complete the registration.
HTH
--
Lew
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| Dan Bensen 2007-12-17, 7:22 pm |
| Lew Pitcher wrote:
> On Dec 17, 12:56 pm, Dan Bensen <randomg...@cyberspace.net> wrote:
> Why these specific commands?
I found them in various sources, including the dsl howto,
the networking howto, and the route man page.
> More specifically, where did you get the 192.168.0.1 address
> from in the first command?
The installation CD contains an html page with instructions:
Yahoo> Now that your computer is connected to the DSL Modem, you
Yahoo> need to activate your AT&T Yahoo! High Speed Internet account.
Yahoo> To activate your AT&T Yahoo! High Speed Internet account:
Yahoo> 1. Open your Internet browser.
Yahoo> 2. Type http://192.168.0.01 into the browser's address line.
Yahoo> 3. If prompted, enter the Access Code found on the bottom of
Yahoo> the DSL Modem and click NEXT.
Yahoo> 4. You will be prompted to enter a username and password.
Yahoo> To access the AT&T Yahoo! High Speed Internet registration
Yahoo> servers, you must enter the following username and password:
Yahoo> Username: ***
Yahoo> Password: ***
Yahoo> 5. Click Save Changes.
Yahoo> 6. The connection process will begin.
> What did you expect these commands to do?
I expected them to fail, like everything else I've tried so far.
> Are you running a web server on your own computer?
No, I just want to get my home machine onto the net.
> Wny would you (or Yahoo) expect that /your/
> webserver would complete the Yahoo registration?
I didn't know enough to expect that. My thought was that maybe
192.168.0.1 was the address of eth0 and the modem automagically
reached the isp's server.
> My suspicion is that you have misconfigured your eth0, in that it /
> should not/ be assigned the 192.168.0.1 address.
So what address should I give it?
> More likely, given
> your description of the DSL modem's behaviour, you should have started
> a dhcp client on your Linux system, and let it acquire an address from
> the DSL modem (which is acting as a PPP protocol stack/firewall/router/
> gateway/DHCP server).
I didn't see anything about dhcp in any of the howtos, and you're the
first person to mention it.
> Once your system acquires it's dynamic address
> from the MODEM, you will find that the MODEM has a webserver running
> at http://192.168.0.1/ and it is this webserver that you are supposed
> to access to complete the registration.
Interesting, I'll try it.
--
Dan
www.prairienet.org/~dsb/
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| Lew Pitcher 2007-12-18, 1:42 am |
| Dan Bensen wrote:
> Lew Pitcher wrote:
>
> I found them in various sources, including the dsl howto,
> the networking howto, and the route man page.
>[snip]
> I didn't know enough to expect that. My thought was that maybe
> 192.168.0.1 was the address of eth0 and the modem automagically
> reached the isp's server.
>
>
> So what address should I give it?
None. Run your dhcp client. The client will acquire an IP address from your
DSL router.
>
> I didn't see anything about dhcp in any of the howtos, and you're the
> first person to mention it.
Yah. The howtos are never "up to date" wrt what the vendors are offering.
These days, DSL vendors (like Yahoo) use DSL modems that are complete systems,
instead of being discrete components. These systems do /everything/ for you;
you don't /have/ to run PPPoE on your Linux system as the modem does that
internally. The modems are so sophisticated that they usually include DHCP
servers, along with web servers, firewalls, and a whole raft of other features.
The Yahoo instructions work with the default for Microsoft Windows, which is
to activate the ethernet connection using DHCP. That's why the instructions
are fairly vague.
>
> Interesting, I'll try it.
>
--
Lew Pitcher
Master Codewright & JOAT-in-training | Registered Linux User #112576
http://pitcher.digitalfreehold.ca/ | GPG public key available by request
---------- Slackware - Because I know what I'm doing. ------
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| Dan Bensen 2007-12-18, 1:42 am |
| Lew Pitcher wrote:
> Run your dhcp client. The client will acquire an IP address from your
> DSL router.
You mean dhcpcd? It looks like /etc/rc.inet1 will start it if eth0 is
configured in /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf. It looks like USE_DHCP needs
to be "yes", but what about the rest of these fields?:
# Config information for eth0:
IPADDR[0]=""
NETMASK[0]=""
USE_DHCP[0]=""
DHCP_HOSTNAME[0]=""
So is this a substitute for ifconfig'ing manually? And what about route?
Do I have to specify a gateway or do anything else?
> These days, DSL vendors (like Yahoo) use DSL modems that are complete systems,
> instead of being discrete components. These systems do /everything/ for you;
> you don't /have/ to run PPPoE on your Linux system as the modem does that
> internally. The modems are so sophisticated that they usually include DHCP
> servers, along with web servers, firewalls, and a whole raft of other features.
Thanks, that's good to know.
--
Dan
www.prairienet.org/~dsb/
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| edcrosbys 2007-12-18, 7:33 am |
| > # ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 mtu 1500 up
> # route add -net 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 dev eth0
> * modem's ETHERNET light turned green
> * Yahoo's installation page says
> "Point your browswer tohttp://192.168.0.01to register."
> * Firefox can't find the server at 192.168.0.1.
If you cannot pull a DHCP address, or wish to hard set it, then you
need to choose another IP on the same subnet. The router/DSL Modem is
setup on .1 (that's why you are told to browse to it later). Try
using .10 or anything > .2 and < .255.
I would use DHCP though, unless you were going to host a service.
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| Lew Pitcher 2007-12-18, 1:33 pm |
| On Dec 18, 1:35 am, Dan Bensen <randomg...@cyberspace.net> wrote:
> Lew Pitcher wrote:
>
> You mean dhcpcd? It looks like /etc/rc.inet1 will start it if eth0 is
> configured in /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf.
OK, so you use Slackware. That wasn't evident to me previously. Good
to know, as I use Slackware as well
> It looks like USE_DHCP needs
> to be "yes", but what about the rest of these fields?:
>
> # Config information for eth0:
> IPADDR[0]=""
> NETMASK[0]=""
In your situation, you shouldn't change these two lines. They are used
when you have a fixed IP address
> USE_DHCP[0]=""
USE_DHCP[0]="yes"
> DHCP_HOSTNAME[0]=""
Put a name here...
DHCP_HOSTNAME[0]="grey_mouser"
If your DHCP server supports DDNS, then this would tell the DHCP
server what name to assign to this IP address. It wont hurt to put a
name here, and, who knows?, it might actually do something for you.
> So is this a substitute for ifconfig'ing manually? And what about route?
Yes. Just complete the rc.inet1.conf fields and leave the rest up to
rc.inet1. rc.inet1 will invoke the dhcp script, which will take care
of the IP address, the route, and any other network configuration that
the modem's DHCP server supports (DNS settings, etc.)
> Do I have to specify a gateway or do anything else?
No. Just the USE_DHCP[0]] and (optionally) the DHCP_HOSTNAME[0]
settings are enough.
>
> Thanks, that's good to know.
>
> --
> Danwww.prairienet.org/~dsb/
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| Dan Bensen 2007-12-18, 1:33 pm |
| Lew Pitcher wrote:
> OK, so you use Slackware.
Zenwalk, a.k.a. "Minislack".
> Just complete the rc.inet1.conf fields and leave the rest up to
> rc.inet1. rc.inet1 will invoke the dhcp script, which will take care
> of the IP address, the route, and any other network configuration that
> the modem's DHCP server supports (DNS settings, etc.)
>
> Just the USE_DHCP[0]] and (optionally) the DHCP_HOSTNAME[0]
> settings are enough.
I'm running
# rc.inet1 eth0_up
which calls
/sbin/dhcpcd -d -h dsl eth0
which exits after echoing a MAC address.
The modem's ETHERNET light is still off,
and FF still can't find 192.168.0.1.
--
Dan
www.prairienet.org/~dsb/
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| Dan Bensen 2007-12-19, 1:39 am |
| edcrosbys wrote:
> If you cannot pull a DHCP address, or wish to hard set it,
> then you need to choose another IP on the same subnet.
Is the router guaranteed to accept a hard-coded address
even if it's set up for dhcp?
> I would use DHCP though, unless you were going to host a service.
So far, it doesn't seem to be working. The modem's ethernet light
went on when I specified an address with ifconfig, but it hasn't
stayed on yet when I've tried dhcp.
--
Dan
www.prairienet.org/~dsb/
| |
| edcrosbys 2007-12-19, 7:27 pm |
| On Dec 18, 11:14 pm, Dan Bensen <randomg...@cyberspace.net> wrote:
> Is the router guaranteed to accept a hard-coded address
> even if it's set up for dhcp?
Yes. Assuming the only two things on the network is the router and
your linux box. Can you ping 192.168.0.1 if you hard set the ip to
192.168.0.2? Make sure the subnet is 255.255.255.0!
> So far, it doesn't seem to be working. The modem's ethernet light
> went on when I specified an address with ifconfig, but it hasn't
> stayed on yet when I've tried dhcp.
Try hard setting it then. Again, make sure the subnet is right. You
don't have any filters on the line going to the DSL modem, right? Is
there anything in between the server and the modem?
| |
| Dan Bensen 2007-12-20, 1:40 am |
| edcrosbys wrote:
> Can you ping 192.168.0.1 if you hard set the ip to
> 192.168.0.2? Make sure the subnet is 255.255.255.0!
The ip address on the install cd seems to be wrong.
The modem is now responding at 192.168.1.254, although
the browser still isn't getting through to web content.
> You don't have any filters on the line going to the DSL modem, right?
> Is there anything in between the server and the modem?
Just the ethernet cable between modem and ethernet card.
I called the att help desk, and one of their "tech support" girls
gave me a hard time because I wasn't using the Y filter for
the data line at the phone outlet. I thought the dsl side of
the filter was just a plain wire, but I guess it might be a
capacitor/high-pass filter. So now the modem is connected to
the dsl side of the Y connector.
--
Dan
www.prairienet.org/~dsb/
| |
| Dan Bensen 2007-12-20, 1:40 am |
| Lew Pitcher wrote:
> OK, so you use Slackware. That wasn't evident to me previously.
> Good to know, as I use Slackware as well
Lew! Wheredja go, buddy? The modem is finally responding,
except at a different address. I've been cross-posting this
topic to linuxquestions.org:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...l-acct.-607165/
and somebody (comprookie2000) found the user manual for the modem:
http://broadband.motorola.com/consu..._UserManual.pdf
I went back to hard-coded ip addresses, and the modem's admin page
is coming up at 192.168.1.254. It displays ip addresses for
the nameservers, which ping is able to find, and the addresses
are now in resolv.conf. But still no surfing yet, and I haven't
gotten dhcp working.
--
Dan
www.prairienet.org/~dsb/
| |
| David J Dachtera 2007-12-22, 7:26 pm |
| Dan Bensen wrote:
>
> I have a Q about linux networking (getting my home pc on
> the net). Is this the right forum, or is there a better
> one for that topic?
>
> Here's a dump of my current situation:
>
> * new ATT/Yahoo dsl service, they said it was up last week
> * dsl modem connected to ethernet card and phone outlet
> * modem's POWER and DSL lights turned green
> * low-pass filters on all telephones & answering machine
> * su'd and ran
> # ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 mtu 1500 up
> # route add -net 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 dev eth0
> * modem's ETHERNET light turned green
> * Yahoo's installation page says
> "Point your browswer to http://192.168.0.01 to register."
> * Firefox can't find the server at 192.168.0.1.
> * ???
>
> I've also tried about a million other things but still haven't
> reached Yahoo's registration page. What else could be the
> problem?
Well, ...
> # ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 mtu 1500 up
You've set your machine to the same address as the server you're trying
to contact. Unless your PC is the Yahoo Registration server, ...
Note also that the entire process as documented is targetted at
WhineBloze users. Their telephone support people are similarly myopic.
So, you'll likely get no help from them.
You'll need to read up on setting your Linux PC to accept an IP address
via DHCP.
Note also that as regards which newsgroup, Linux is not UNIX. Linux is a
UNIX-like operating system and, as such, may or may not be sufficiently
similar to UNIX to have UNIX things work as expected.
Try a Linux-oriented newsgroup. You'll likely achieve better results.
David J Dachtera
DJE Systems
http://www.djesys.com/
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| Dan Bensen 2007-12-23, 7:31 am |
| David J Dachtera wrote:
> You'll need to read up on setting your Linux PC to accept an IP address
> via DHCP.
I haven't gotten dhcp working yet, but I responded to Lew Pitcher on 12/19
that the modem is responding to 192.168.1.254, and eth0 is working when
it's set to 192.168.1.something.
> Try a Linux-oriented newsgroup. You'll likely achieve better results.
I should have looked harder. I thought it was strange that I couldn't find
any Linux groups, but every other computer group I've seen has been on
comp.*, so I just assumed...
I'll be over at linux.*. Thanks for the help.
--
Dan
www.prairienet.org/~dsb/
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| Dave Hinz 2007-12-23, 1:23 pm |
| On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 16:10:39 -0600, David J Dachtera <djesys.no@spam.comcast.net> wrote:
> Dan Bensen wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
> You've set your machine to the same address as the server you're trying
> to contact. Unless your PC is the Yahoo Registration server, ...
It's also my printer. Anything vaguely familiar looking about that
address, David? Like it being part of a special range maybe?
> Note also that the entire process as documented is targetted at
> WhineBloze users. Their telephone support people are similarly myopic.
> So, you'll likely get no help from them.
Nor you, apparently.
> You'll need to read up on setting your Linux PC to accept an IP address
> via DHCP.
> Note also that as regards which newsgroup, Linux is not UNIX. Linux is a
> UNIX-like operating system and, as such, may or may not be sufficiently
> similar to UNIX to have UNIX things work as expected.
We used to have a troll here who spouted similar crap continuously. He
added nothing to the group.
> Try a Linux-oriented newsgroup. You'll likely achieve better results.
Maybe you're not trying to be an unhelpful jerk giving bad information,
but from here, that's how it's coming across. Just so you know. All
the guy needs to do is set up his *nix box to accept DHCP (the one thing
you got right), or, to set it to a fixed address in the range of
whatever piece of gear he has wants him to use. Sounds like he's done
that with the 192.168.0.1
So, to Dan:
do this:
ifconfig -a
See what IP your eth0 interface has. If the config statement above
didn't set it, do you have an eth0, or is it called something else?
Does your provider tell you if you should use dhcp or fixed?
And, don't worry about the "Linux isn't Unix" crowd. Anyone who gets
hung up on that will block themselves from succeeding.
| |
| Dan Bensen 2007-12-23, 7:18 pm |
| Dave Hinz wrote:
> Does your provider tell you if you should use dhcp or fixed?
My provider (for now) is AT&T/Yahoo, and they tell me to use
Windows or MacOS. See my response to David, and also this
forum thread:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...l-acct.-607165/
The current situation is that the modem is responding at
192.168.1.254 with eth0 at a fixed address in 192.168.1.*.
The modem found the DNS servers, and the ISP's registration
page came up. Then the Member ID page comes up with this
message at the top of a form:
<%@page language="java" errorPage="SystemError.jsp" %>
If "SystemError.jsp" means something tried to make a Windows
system call, them I'm wondering if maybe *nix users should
be warned not to use AT&T/Yahoo dsl. I've heard that ISPs
display a range of attitudes toward *nix, from friendly to
neutral to actively hostile. Whatever the reason is, if
there's no way to make the registration page work, then it
seems like *nix users might have to avoid AT&T/Yahoo dsl.
--
Dan
www.prairienet.org/~dsb/
| |
| Dave Hinz 2007-12-23, 7:18 pm |
| On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 16:03:01 -0600, Dan Bensen <randomgeek@cyberspace.net> wrote:
> Dave Hinz wrote:
>
> My provider (for now) is AT&T/Yahoo, and they tell me to use
> Windows or MacOS. See my response to David, and also this
> forum thread:
> http://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...l-acct.-607165/
Ah, good to see that you weren't chased off.
> The current situation is that the modem is responding at
> 192.168.1.254 with eth0 at a fixed address in 192.168.1.*.
> The modem found the DNS servers, and the ISP's registration
> page came up.
Sounds like you've got the in-house stuff nailed then. As you probably
figured out, the MacOSX stuff is just another Unix so it's more
applicable than anything else they'll give you.
> Then the Member ID page comes up with this
> message at the top of a form:
><%@page language="java" errorPage="SystemError.jsp" %>
> If "SystemError.jsp" means something tried to make a Windows
> system call, them I'm wondering if maybe *nix users should
> be warned not to use AT&T/Yahoo dsl.
Do you have a Java runtime environment installed? That's from Sun
(about as opposite of Microsoft as exists), go to java.sun.com and get
the right version for your system. Or, if you're on a debian-type
distro,
sudo apt-get install java
....or whatever it's called in your world.
> I've heard that ISPs
> display a range of attitudes toward *nix, from friendly to
> neutral to actively hostile. Whatever the reason is, if
> there's no way to make the registration page work, then it
> seems like *nix users might have to avoid AT&T/Yahoo dsl.
Worst case, have someone with a 'doze laptop come over & go through the
page once. But first check out your Java situation.
Dave Hinz
| |
| Thorbjoern Ravn Andersen 2007-12-23, 7:18 pm |
| Dan Bensen <randomgeek@cyberspace.net> writes:
> page came up. Then the Member ID page comes up with this
> message at the top of a form:
> <%@page language="java" errorPage="SystemError.jsp" %>
>
> If "SystemError.jsp" means something tried to make a Windows
This is something which should be interpreted by a Java webserver before
sending data to the browser. This looks slightly broken.
What was the exact instructions you were to follow to get up and
running?
--
Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen
| |
|
|
| Dan Bensen 2007-12-23, 7:18 pm |
| Thorbjoern Ravn Andersen wrote:
> What was the exact instructions you were to follow to get up and
> running?
The exact instructions were incorrect. The preferred method was
to get Windows or a Mac and follow a script on the install CD.
The alternative was an html page on the CD that had the wrong
ip address for the modem. Once that was set correctly, the
instructions were to surf to the ISP's registration page, submit
to their Terms of Service, and enter your phone number. Clicking
the "Next" button on that page is where I'm stuck right now.
--
Dan
www.prairienet.org/~dsb/
| |
| Thorbjoern Ravn Andersen 2007-12-23, 7:18 pm |
| Dan Bensen <randomgeek@cyberspace.net> writes:
> The exact instructions were incorrect. The preferred method was
> to get Windows or a Mac and follow a script on the install CD.
> The alternative was an html page on the CD that had the wrong
> ip address for the modem. Once that was set correctly, the
> instructions were to surf to the ISP's registration page, submit
> to their Terms of Service, and enter your phone number. Clicking
> the "Next" button on that page is where I'm stuck right now.
Lovely. It sounds like you need to call support.
Is it too late to consider using another ISP?
--
Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen
| |
| Dan Bensen 2007-12-24, 1:39 am |
| >> Clicking the "Next" button on that page
Thorbjoern Ravn Andersen wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]
> Lovely. It sounds like you need to call support.
They don't have a real tech support. Just narrowly
trained workers who know little or nothing about
computers and probably follow a caller-response script.
> Is it too late to consider using another ISP?
It would cost a little over US$100 to switch, and
$15-25 extra per month after that. I need a new
computer anyway, so I may break down and buy a
used one with XP on it.
--
Dan
www.prairienet.org/~dsb/
| |
| Dave Hinz 2007-12-24, 1:24 pm |
| On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 22:19:38 -0600, Dan Bensen <randomgeek@cyberspace.net> wrote:
>
> Thorbjoern Ravn Andersen wrote:
>
> They don't have a real tech support. Just narrowly
> trained workers who know little or nothing about
> computers and probably follow a caller-response script.
It's very hard to staff a helpdesk. The guys who have clue and
initiative, want to move up, so you let them or you lose them. The
blind following of a script us frustrating for them, too. They should
have a way you can escalate, though.
[vbcol=seagreen]
> It would cost a little over US$100 to switch, and
> $15-25 extra per month after that. I need a new
> computer anyway, so I may break down and buy a
> used one with XP on it.
Well, if that's how you choose to "fix" this, then perhaps it's a waste
of time trying to help you with this. To me, it sounds like you're
close, and as someone else said, that Java message looks more like their
servers than your setup.
About that - what is that page supposed to do? Do you have connectivity
to the world without activating your yahoo whateveritis, or no? If it's
just some bullshit yahoo homepage, who cares.
| |
| Dan Bensen 2007-12-25, 1:39 am |
| > On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 22:19:38 -0600, Dan Bensen <randomgeek@cyberspace.net> wrote:
Dave Hinz wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]
> Well, if that's how you choose to "fix" this, then perhaps it's
> a waste of time trying to help you with this.
I mean I'll dual-boot Linux with the XP, use XP to register for the
dsl, and use Linux for everything else, except maybe testing web pages
on IE. If the page is making a Windows system call, it seems to be
a choice between registering with Windows or paying a lot more for
another service. What other options are there?
> About that - what is that page supposed to do? Do you have connectivity
> to the world without activating your yahoo whateveritis, or no?
No, this is the page that turns on access to the world.
--
Dan
www.prairienet.org/~dsb/
| |
| Dave Hinz 2007-12-25, 1:39 am |
| On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 20:51:56 -0600, Dan Bensen <randomgeek@cyberspace.net> wrote:
>
> Dave Hinz wrote:
>
> I mean I'll dual-boot Linux with the XP, use XP to register for the
> dsl, and use Linux for everything else, except maybe testing web pages
> on IE.
Ah, OK then, sounded like you were giving up too easily. Sorry to have
misinterpreted you.
> If the page is making a Windows system call, it seems to be
> a choice between registering with Windows or paying a lot more for
> another service. What other options are there?
Nothing wrong with multi-booting a box.
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> No, this is the page that turns on access to the world.
Still broke? And, still broke once you have a 'doze partition built?
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| Dan Bensen 2007-12-25, 7:31 am |
| >> No, this is the page that turns on access to the world.
Dave Hinz wrote:
> Still broke? And, still broke once you have a 'doze partition built?
I'm not sure what you mean. I would expect it to work with Windows,
but I can't check that yet.
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Dan
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