Unix questions - Alan Connor why do you hate the elect?

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Alan Connor why do you hate the elect?

John the Baptist Jr.

2006-02-01, 8:52 pm

Its obvious that you have a deep hate for the elect. May I ask why?

"Alan Connor" <i3x9mdw@j9n35c.invalid> wrote in message
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> You aren't a pastor, "Dave". You are just another fundamentalist,
> psuedo-Christian* wackjob with a computer.
>
> * These sorts don't follow Jesus at all, but rather Paul and John
> and the Old Testament.
>
> The fact that Jesus brought a _new_ Testament to replace the old
> one just doesn't register in their tunnel-visioned minds.
>
> They are all creepy little men dominated by irrational fears
> that want you to believe that you need them to interpret
> Scripture.
>
> They want you to believe that they have some special ability
> that you don't have.
>
> The fact that Jesus said "The Kingdom of Heaven/God is within
> you" (meaning everyone) is something that they'd like you to
> ignore.
>
> They don't want you looking within, they want you to be
> dependent on them.
>
> Partly for political/economic power, and partly because their own
> inner wisdom keeps telling them that they are way off the mark
> and they need others to reinforce their twisted beliefs to make
> them more real.
>
> Scratch the surface of one of these cretins and you will find
> a miserable wretch trying to make himself and others believe
> that he is happy because Jesus is allegedly taking care of him.
>
> But Jesus can't do anything of the sort. He can just show us the
> way. We have free will, and with free will comes responsibility.
>
> Jesus is not some nursemaid in the sky, He is a messenger from
> God.
>
> When He says that noone can get to God except through Him, He
> obviously means through His _teachings_.
>
> Otherwise, "The Kingdom of Heaven/God is within you" makes
> no sense at all. It would have to be seen as a complete
> contradiction in Scripture, which these same psuedo-Christians
> will tell you cannot possibly exist.
>
> Alan
>
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Jordan Abel

2006-02-02, 2:54 am

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On 2006-02-02, John the Baptist Jr. <johnw_94020@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Its obvious that you have a deep hate for the elect. May I ask why?

He's a troll. And so are you for posting this thread, though you're at
least [apparently] a first-time offender.

He makes some good points, though. And where the heck does the bible
mention an "elect", anyway? You a calvinist or something?

Glyn Millington

2006-02-02, 2:54 am

Jordan Abel <random832@gmail.com> writes:

>
> He's a troll. And so are you for posting this thread, though you're at
> least [apparently] a first-time offender.
>
> He makes some good points, though. And where the heck does the bible
> mention an "elect", anyway? You a calvinist or something?

Connor is ignorant - he pontificates on the Bible with no knowledge of
its content. So, it appears, do you. See below.

Sorry - not meaning to be snotty, or indeed to defend the trolling - but
if we are to play at theologians lets do it on the basis of knowledge!
The alternative is as bad as my pretending to know anything much about
Unix.

(The real question is about what elect _means_ :-)

atb

Glyn

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# Isaiah 42:1
Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth;
I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the
Gentiles.

# Isaiah 45:4
For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called
thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me.

# Isaiah 65:9
And I will bring forth a seed out of Jacob, and out of Judah an inheritor
of my mountains: and mine elect shall inherit it, and my servants shall
dwell there.

# Isaiah 65:22
They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and
another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days of my people, and
mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands.

# Matthew 24:22
And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be
saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

# Matthew 24:24
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew
great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall
deceive the very elect.

# Matthew 24:31
And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they
shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of
heaven to the other.

# Mark 13:20
And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

# Mark 13:22
For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and
wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.

# Mark 13:27
And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect
from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost
part of heaven.

# Luke 18:7
And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him,
though he bear long with them?

# Romans 8:33
Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.

# Romans 9:11
(For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or
evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of
works, but of him that calleth;)

# Romans 11:5
Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

# Romans 11:7
What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the
election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded. Romans 11:6-8 (in
Context) Romans 11 (Whole Chapter)

# Romans 11:28
As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as
touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.

# Colossians 3:12
Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of
mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;

# 1 Thessalonians 1:4
Knowing, brethren beloved, your election of God.

# 1 Timothy 5:21
I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect
angels, that thou observe these things without preferring one before
another, doing nothing by partiality.

# 2 Timothy 2:10
Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also
obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.

# Titus 1:1
Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the
faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after
godliness;

# 1 Peter 1:2
Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through
sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood
of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

# 1 Peter 2:6
Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a
chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall
not be confounded.

# 1 Peter 5:13
The church that is at Babylon, elected together with you, saluteth you;
and so doth Marcus my son.

# 2 Peter 1:10
Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and
election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:

# 2 John 1:1 The elder unto the elect lady and her children, whom I love
# in the truth; and not I only, but also all they that have known the
# truth;

# 2 John 1:13
The children of thy elect sister greet thee. Amen.

Alan Connor

2006-02-02, 5:54 pm

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> Subject: Re: Alan Connor why do you hate the elect?

Just who is it that calls you "The Elect" besides yourselves?

No one.

You aren't "The Elect", you are just fearmongering welfare-trash
spinning feeble illusions on the Usenet.

Would-be con artists.

Go away. And take that creepy false god you worship with you
before I kick his fat butt for him.

Alan

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