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Charles theGruamach

2004-01-23, 7:14 pm

Ok, while I do admit that I suffer from Newbittus-Linuxis, I'm not a
totally STUPID person....but this is sure making me feel it.

I just installed RH9.0
I used to have Mandrake 8.2 on same computer.

The trouble I have is with my CD-ROM. As in, it won't mount, no matter
what disk I have in there.
The BIOS sees it and recognizes it. So does the RedHat hardware Manager.
It's listed as /dev/hdc. hardware Manager lists CDROM as /dev/cdrom. I
checked the /dev/cdrom link and it's linked to /dev/hdc, just like it
should.
But no matter what, when I try to mount a disk it says "no media"
The CD-RW, which is /dev/cdrom1 linked to /dev/scd0 works just fine.

Now, I did have an issue with the fact that for some reason computer won't
boot off any CD-ROM plugged into IDE channel 2, no matter what drive I try
(all the ones I have laying around are all ATAPI and work fine in the
spare box I have with Win98 loaded on it).
To install RH9, I plugged my spare CD-ROM into the
secondary plug of IDE channel 1. During loadup it recognized that CDROM
as /dev/hdc, but when I removed it and plugged the now-troublesome CDROM
back in, RH sees it at /dev/hdc.

The only thing I can think of is that somewhere along the line it's still
looking to that channel 1 secondary plug (which is plugged into a Seagate
tape drive, which RH also sees just fine) instead of the channel 2 primary
plug, where it's supposedly seeing the proper CDROM.

I've researched and looked up online for over two weeks now and haven't
found ANYTHING related to this sort of problem.
Please tell me someone out there has an idea to help me along.....(I'd be
willing to name my first-born after you, but she's already here)


Charles the Gruamach

2004-01-23, 7:14 pm

On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 00:00:34 GMT, Lenard
<lenard@127.0.0.1> mumbled:
quote:

>
>Red Hat, or any other distro for that matter, would recognized the CD-ROM
>drive when plugged into Primary IDE Channel as the slave device as
>/dev/hdb



It's possible (probable) then that I just remember it
wrongly as having tagged it hdc.
I was so flustered by that point at the whole refusing
to boot off the secondary IDE channel, I was just happy
it loaded.
quote:

>/dev/hdc is the Master device on the Second IDE channel.
>
>Linux sees hard drives, CD drives and DVD drives as;
>
>hda = Master device on the Primary IDE channel hdb = Slave device on the
>Primary IDE channel hdc = Master device on the Secondary IDE channel hdd =
>Slave device on the Secondary IDE channel



Ya know, I never thought about that, but that does make
sense. (I've been in the Army *and* dealing with M$
for too long to remember that sometimes people do
things in sensible ways)
Thank you.
At least that's one thing I've got straight in my head
now.
quote:

>Could be the laser is bad or something else hardware related to the CD
>drive. Or it could simply be the connector on the cable or the interface



I dunno. It was mounting and reading under Mandrake
just before I powered down and started installing RH.
But hell, anything's possible at this point.
quote:

>on the motherboard is faulty. Take a known good CD drive and plug it in,
>if the problem persists then replace the cable and try again. If still
>it's not working try making the CD-RW drive the master and the CD-ROM
>drive the slave, that's the way it should be IMHO anyway.



I could have sworn I tried that, but there was a break
last week when I had to go to Ft. Bragg for 9 days, so
I honestly don't remember for certain.
But if nothing else, I'll try it all again. I'm up for
anything at this point.

Thanks for the ideas.

--
Charles/the Gruamach http://www.pretention.org
The St. Louis (anti)Perkygoth
"Life is pain..... Anyone telling you otherwise is
trying to sell something."
Charles the Gruamach

2004-01-23, 7:14 pm

On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 00:00:34 GMT, Lenard
<lenard@127.0.0.1> mumbled:
quote:

>
>Red Hat, or any other distro for that matter, would recognized the CD-ROM
>drive when plugged into Primary IDE Channel as the slave device as
>/dev/hdb



It's possible (probable) then that I just remember it
wrongly as having tagged it hdc.
I was so flustered by that point at the whole refusing
to boot off the secondary IDE channel, I was just happy
it loaded.
quote:

>/dev/hdc is the Master device on the Second IDE channel.
>
>Linux sees hard drives, CD drives and DVD drives as;
>
>hda = Master device on the Primary IDE channel hdb = Slave device on the
>Primary IDE channel hdc = Master device on the Secondary IDE channel hdd =
>Slave device on the Secondary IDE channel



Ya know, I never thought about that, but that does make
sense. (I've been in the Army *and* dealing with M$
for too long to remember that sometimes people do
things in sensible ways)
Thank you.
At least that's one thing I've got straight in my head
now.
quote:

>Could be the laser is bad or something else hardware related to the CD
>drive. Or it could simply be the connector on the cable or the interface



I dunno. It was mounting and reading under Mandrake
just before I powered down and started installing RH.
But hell, anything's possible at this point.
quote:

>on the motherboard is faulty. Take a known good CD drive and plug it in,
>if the problem persists then replace the cable and try again. If still
>it's not working try making the CD-RW drive the master and the CD-ROM
>drive the slave, that's the way it should be IMHO anyway.



I could have sworn I tried that, but there was a break
last week when I had to go to Ft. Bragg for 9 days, so
I honestly don't remember for certain.
But if nothing else, I'll try it all again. I'm up for
anything at this point.

Thanks for the ideas.

--
Charles/the Gruamach http://www.pretention.org
The St. Louis (anti)Perkygoth
"Life is pain..... Anyone telling you otherwise is
trying to sell something."
Lenard

2004-01-23, 7:14 pm

On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 20:13:17 +0000, Charles theGruamach typed:
quote:

> Ok, while I do admit that I suffer from Newbittus-Linuxis, I'm not a
> totally STUPID person....but this is sure making me feel it.
>
> I just installed RH9.0
> I used to have Mandrake 8.2 on same computer.
>
> The trouble I have is with my CD-ROM. As in, it won't mount, no matter
> what disk I have in there.
> The BIOS sees it and recognizes it. So does the RedHat Hardware
> Manager. It's listed as /dev/hdc. hardware Manager lists CDROM as
> /dev/cdrom. I checked the /dev/cdrom link and it's linked to /dev/hdc,
> just like it should.
> But no matter what, when I try to mount a disk it says "no media" The
> CD-RW, which is /dev/cdrom1 linked to /dev/scd0 works just fine.
>
> Now, I did have an issue with the fact that for some reason computer
> won't boot off any CD-ROM plugged into IDE channel 2, no matter what
> drive I try (all the ones I have laying around are all ATAPI and work
> fine in the spare box I have with Win98 loaded on it). To install RH9, I
> plugged my spare CD-ROM into the secondary plug of IDE channel 1.
> During loadup it recognized that CDROM as /dev/hdc, but when I removed
> it and plugged the now-troublesome CDROM back in, RH sees it at
> /dev/hdc.



Red Hat, or any other distro for that matter, would recognized the CD-ROM
drive when plugged into Primary IDE Channel as the slave device as
/dev/hdb


quote:

> The only thing I can think of is that somewhere along the line it's
> still looking to that channel 1 secondary plug (which is plugged into a
> Seagate tape drive, which RH also sees just fine) instead of the channel
> 2 primary plug, where it's supposedly seeing the proper CDROM.




/dev/hdc is the Master device on the Second IDE channel.

Linux sees hard drives, CD drives and DVD drives as;

hda = Master device on the Primary IDE channel hdb = Slave device on the
Primary IDE channel hdc = Master device on the Secondary IDE channel hdd =
Slave device on the Secondary IDE channel

quote:

> I've researched and looked up online for over two weeks now and haven't
> found ANYTHING related to this sort of problem. Please tell me someone
> out there has an idea to help me along.....(I'd be willing to name my
> first-born after you, but she's already here)



Could be the laser is bad or something else hardware related to the CD
drive. Or it could simply be the connector on the cable or the interface
on the motherboard is faulty. Take a known good CD drive and plug it in,
if the problem persists then replace the cable and try again. If still
it's not working try making the CD-RW drive the master and the CD-ROM
drive the slave, that's the way it should be IMHO anyway.


--
If it's Thursday it must be Micro$oft patching day!!!

Charles the Gruamach

2004-01-23, 7:14 pm

On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 00:00:34 GMT, Lenard
<lenard@127.0.0.1> mumbled:
quote:

>
>Red Hat, or any other distro for that matter, would recognized the CD-ROM
>drive when plugged into Primary IDE Channel as the slave device as
>/dev/hdb



It's possible (probable) then that I just remember it
wrongly as having tagged it hdc.
I was so flustered by that point at the whole refusing
to boot off the secondary IDE channel, I was just happy
it loaded.
quote:

>/dev/hdc is the Master device on the Second IDE channel.
>
>Linux sees hard drives, CD drives and DVD drives as;
>
>hda = Master device on the Primary IDE channel hdb = Slave device on the
>Primary IDE channel hdc = Master device on the Secondary IDE channel hdd =
>Slave device on the Secondary IDE channel



Ya know, I never thought about that, but that does make
sense. (I've been in the Army *and* dealing with M$
for too long to remember that sometimes people do
things in sensible ways)
Thank you.
At least that's one thing I've got straight in my head
now.
quote:

>Could be the laser is bad or something else hardware related to the CD
>drive. Or it could simply be the connector on the cable or the interface



I dunno. It was mounting and reading under Mandrake
just before I powered down and started installing RH.
But hell, anything's possible at this point.
quote:

>on the motherboard is faulty. Take a known good CD drive and plug it in,
>if the problem persists then replace the cable and try again. If still
>it's not working try making the CD-RW drive the master and the CD-ROM
>drive the slave, that's the way it should be IMHO anyway.



I could have sworn I tried that, but there was a break
last week when I had to go to Ft. Bragg for 9 days, so
I honestly don't remember for certain.
But if nothing else, I'll try it all again. I'm up for
anything at this point.

Thanks for the ideas.

--
Charles/the Gruamach http://www.pretention.org
The St. Louis (anti)Perkygoth
"Life is pain..... Anyone telling you otherwise is
trying to sell something."
Charles theGruamach

2004-01-23, 7:14 pm

On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 05:09:38 +0000, Charles the Gruamach wrote:
quote:

>
> I could have sworn I tried that, but there was a break
> last week when I had to go to Ft. Bragg for 9 days, so
> I honestly don't remember for certain.
> But if nothing else, I'll try it all again. I'm up for
> anything at this point.



Ok, ignoring the strangeness of following up to one's own post...I've now
done the above and feel like an even bigger idiot. Putting in the spare
CDROM works like a charm. I put the troublesome CDROM into my old windows
box and it works *some* of the time. I guess it was going bad, and it
just happened to work when I verified that the ISO burned properly for the
install CDs before I switched from Mandrake to RH.
Sometimes it's the simplest answers that are the hardest to see. "Hidden
in plain view" as my wife says. Guess I just needed an outside voice to
point out the obvious for me.....so again, thanks for the help.

--
Charles/ theGruamach
http://www.pretention.org
"It is not enough to conquer.
One must learn to seduce." -Voltaire, 1743

Charles theGruamach

2004-01-23, 7:14 pm

On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 05:09:38 +0000, Charles the Gruamach wrote:
quote:

>
> I could have sworn I tried that, but there was a break
> last week when I had to go to Ft. Bragg for 9 days, so
> I honestly don't remember for certain.
> But if nothing else, I'll try it all again. I'm up for
> anything at this point.



Ok, ignoring the strangeness of following up to one's own post...I've now
done the above and feel like an even bigger idiot. Putting in the spare
CDROM works like a charm. I put the troublesome CDROM into my old windows
box and it works *some* of the time. I guess it was going bad, and it
just happened to work when I verified that the ISO burned properly for the
install CDs before I switched from Mandrake to RH.
Sometimes it's the simplest answers that are the hardest to see. "Hidden
in plain view" as my wife says. Guess I just needed an outside voice to
point out the obvious for me.....so again, thanks for the help.

--
Charles/ theGruamach
http://www.pretention.org
"It is not enough to conquer.
One must learn to seduce." -Voltaire, 1743

Charles theGruamach

2004-01-23, 7:14 pm

On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 05:09:38 +0000, Charles the Gruamach wrote:
quote:

>
> I could have sworn I tried that, but there was a break
> last week when I had to go to Ft. Bragg for 9 days, so
> I honestly don't remember for certain.
> But if nothing else, I'll try it all again. I'm up for
> anything at this point.



Ok, ignoring the strangeness of following up to one's own post...I've now
done the above and feel like an even bigger idiot. Putting in the spare
CDROM works like a charm. I put the troublesome CDROM into my old windows
box and it works *some* of the time. I guess it was going bad, and it
just happened to work when I verified that the ISO burned properly for the
install CDs before I switched from Mandrake to RH.
Sometimes it's the simplest answers that are the hardest to see. "Hidden
in plain view" as my wife says. Guess I just needed an outside voice to
point out the obvious for me.....so again, thanks for the help.

--
Charles/ theGruamach
http://www.pretention.org
"It is not enough to conquer.
One must learn to seduce." -Voltaire, 1743

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