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| David Jones 2004-01-23, 7:23 pm |
| John Bailo wrote:quote:
> Each day I am amazed.
>
> OK DIG:
>
> On the task bar, on the Workspace Switcher, it shows four desktops and
> little indications of the apps that are running.
>
> Well -- you can DRAG AND DROP THOSE LITTLE APPS INTO THE DIFFERENT
> DESKTOPS.
>
> YES !
>
> I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT BUT YOU CAN.
>
> Xwindows, GNOME, Linux are so much more orthagonal it's not even funny !!
My GNOME is so cool:
1. It just crashed and when I restarted it the clock and Workspace
Switcher were missing. I am not about to delete .gnome and re-do my
"desktop". Bug. Crashed while using Thunderbird 0.3.
2. RH 9.0 download area now only offers downloads for Fedora or the
Enterprise version of the operating system I'm currently struggling with.
3. A couple weeks ago Terminal just stopped working; it opens but no prompt.
4. My /etc/hosts file gets consistently corrupted (exactly the same way
each time), thereby blocking browsing any anything else that requires DNS.
5. My web browser (Mozilla) cannot open while my email browser is running.
6. Ximian starts up automatically each time I startup. I don't want this.
7. Neither my ISPs nor my bank support Mozilla. They refer me to
Netscape 4.77. I find I must install Java. There are instructions.
Complicated instructions. I go to download Java (I click on the link)
and have to manually enter the filename. Why doesn't Mozilla do
everything IE does? Why is there netscape AND Mozilla. Why do I have to
install and maintain Java separately for such an essential service like
a web browser to function. Who is so insecure about their future? Well,
MS is, that's why they avoid competition. But apparently others too,
like SUN? Any professionals out there who can offer the truths and
solutions?
8. My file associations in Nautilus do not work. Right click, open
using, does nothing. No action. Have to open a terminal, type a lot of
cd's, then kick off the application giving a filename as a parameter. I
have to REMEMBER, of course, the application's command-line name, and
it's arguments.
Any technical solutions to the above would be greatly welcome.
Will any/all of the above shortcomings be totally solved if I just
switch to another brand of Linux, or a paid RH distribution? Not that
I'm keen, as a home user, to have to pay much for web, email, and text
processing? Nothing fancy.
Don't tell me to go to hell, I'm already there. I've got a dual-boot PC
with a broken RH9.0, and a broken Windows 2000; the latter's registry
got trashed when I un-installed and then re-installed my ISP's PPPoE
driver. I did nothing wrong. It suddenly just stopped working. It takes
about 30 minute and three to four reboots to install a broadband driver
(PPPoE) on Windows 2000. On Redhat 9.0 it takes 20 seconds. My ISP even
dispatch technicians at $160 a pop to run the Windows driver
installation program. Oh, I tried a Windows 2000 recovery and it made no
difference. Commercial software. Faring about as well as open source
software, given my experience so far (3 months on Redhat).
Imagine if cars crashed due to malfunction as often as computer
desktops? They're thinking of putting Windows into an automobile? Do
they have rocks in their head??? I wonder what Microsoft's disclaimers
will read like for THAT software (it's bad enough now, for example,
Microsoft is so terrified of third parties performance-testing .NET and
publishing results that they legally "forbid" it). Microsoft has been
killing our spirits with horrible software and soon they'll be killing
our bodies. Great.
Pen and paper and face-to-face, for anyone without time to waste.
DJ
| |
| Bill Turner 2004-01-23, 7:23 pm |
| On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:38:47 GMT, David Jones <DJ@nospam.com> wrote:
quote:
>I've got a dual-boot PC
>with a broken RH9.0, and a broken Windows 2000;
________________________________________
_________________
Instead of dual boot, consider having separate HD's in a swappable
carrier (or whatever they're called). Pick up a couple on ebay for less
than $20 plus the cost of another HD and your problem is solved. No way
either installation can interfere with the other. Buy a few more and
experiment with all the Linux flavors you like with no complications.
As a side benefit, the HD runs cooler due to the built in fan in the
carrier. Mine used to run about 95F, now it runs about 85F.
Try it, you'll like it.
--
BT
| |
| Bill Turner 2004-01-23, 7:23 pm |
| On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:38:47 GMT, David Jones <DJ@nospam.com> wrote:
quote:
>I've got a dual-boot PC
>with a broken RH9.0, and a broken Windows 2000;
________________________________________
_________________
Instead of dual boot, consider having separate HD's in a swappable
carrier (or whatever they're called). Pick up a couple on ebay for less
than $20 plus the cost of another HD and your problem is solved. No way
either installation can interfere with the other. Buy a few more and
experiment with all the Linux flavors you like with no complications.
As a side benefit, the HD runs cooler due to the built in fan in the
carrier. Mine used to run about 95F, now it runs about 85F.
Try it, you'll like it.
--
BT
| |
| Bill Turner 2004-01-23, 7:23 pm |
| On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:38:47 GMT, David Jones <DJ@nospam.com> wrote:
quote:
>I've got a dual-boot PC
>with a broken RH9.0, and a broken Windows 2000;
________________________________________
_________________
Instead of dual boot, consider having separate HD's in a swappable
carrier (or whatever they're called). Pick up a couple on ebay for less
than $20 plus the cost of another HD and your problem is solved. No way
either installation can interfere with the other. Buy a few more and
experiment with all the Linux flavors you like with no complications.
As a side benefit, the HD runs cooler due to the built in fan in the
carrier. Mine used to run about 95F, now it runs about 85F.
Try it, you'll like it.
--
BT
| |
| Mark A. Karnowski 2004-01-23, 7:23 pm |
| quote:
>
> Instead of dual boot, consider having separate HD's in a swappable
> carrier (or whatever they're called). Pick up a couple on ebay for less
> than $20 plus the cost of another HD and your problem is solved. No way
> either installation can interfere with the other. Buy a few more and
> experiment with all the Linux flavors you like with no complications.
>
> As a side benefit, the HD runs cooler due to the built in fan in the
> carrier. Mine used to run about 95F, now it runs about 85F.
>
> Try it, you'll like it.
Good to hear that someone else does this. It works out well for me. I use
a directory on my second permanently installed drive for those cases when
I need to share data files btween Linux (SuSE 9.0 pro rocks!) and Windows.
The carriers/trays are also available
at CompUSA or the equivalent for a very reasonable price.
Of course, once I get a new box and a KVM
switch..
Another plus is that you can have two or three Windows installations for
specialized uses, and keep them mean and lean for better performance.
Mark
| |
| Mark A. Karnowski 2004-01-23, 7:23 pm |
| quote:
>
> Instead of dual boot, consider having separate HD's in a swappable
> carrier (or whatever they're called). Pick up a couple on ebay for less
> than $20 plus the cost of another HD and your problem is solved. No way
> either installation can interfere with the other. Buy a few more and
> experiment with all the Linux flavors you like with no complications.
>
> As a side benefit, the HD runs cooler due to the built in fan in the
> carrier. Mine used to run about 95F, now it runs about 85F.
>
> Try it, you'll like it.
Good to hear that someone else does this. It works out well for me. I use
a directory on my second permanently installed drive for those cases when
I need to share data files btween Linux (SuSE 9.0 pro rocks!) and Windows.
The carriers/trays are also available
at CompUSA or the equivalent for a very reasonable price.
Of course, once I get a new box and a KVM
switch..
Another plus is that you can have two or three Windows installations for
specialized uses, and keep them mean and lean for better performance.
Mark
| |
| Mark A. Karnowski 2004-01-23, 7:23 pm |
| quote:
>
> Instead of dual boot, consider having separate HD's in a swappable
> carrier (or whatever they're called). Pick up a couple on ebay for less
> than $20 plus the cost of another HD and your problem is solved. No way
> either installation can interfere with the other. Buy a few more and
> experiment with all the Linux flavors you like with no complications.
>
> As a side benefit, the HD runs cooler due to the built in fan in the
> carrier. Mine used to run about 95F, now it runs about 85F.
>
> Try it, you'll like it.
Good to hear that someone else does this. It works out well for me. I use
a directory on my second permanently installed drive for those cases when
I need to share data files btween Linux (SuSE 9.0 pro rocks!) and Windows.
The carriers/trays are also available
at CompUSA or the equivalent for a very reasonable price.
Of course, once I get a new box and a KVM
switch..
Another plus is that you can have two or three Windows installations for
specialized uses, and keep them mean and lean for better performance.
Mark
| |
| Bill Turner 2004-01-23, 7:23 pm |
| On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 16:41:29 GMT, "Mark A. Karnowski"
<mkarnowski@mindspring.com> wrote:
quote:
>I use
>a directory on my second permanently installed drive for those cases when
>I need to share data files btween Linux (SuSE 9.0 pro rocks!)
____________________
Exactly what I do too. Should have mentioned it. I store my Ghost
images there and now and then image to CD's just in case. Ghost is
really handy when you're fooling around with different OS's.
HD's all over the place. :-)
--
BT
| |
| Bill Turner 2004-01-23, 7:23 pm |
| On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 16:41:29 GMT, "Mark A. Karnowski"
<mkarnowski@mindspring.com> wrote:
quote:
>I use
>a directory on my second permanently installed drive for those cases when
>I need to share data files btween Linux (SuSE 9.0 pro rocks!)
____________________
Exactly what I do too. Should have mentioned it. I store my Ghost
images there and now and then image to CD's just in case. Ghost is
really handy when you're fooling around with different OS's.
HD's all over the place. :-)
--
BT
| |
| George Self 2004-01-23, 7:23 pm |
| [snip]quote:
> 7. Neither my ISPs nor my bank support Mozilla. They
> refer me to netscape 4.77. I find I must install Java. There are
> instructions. Complicated instructions. I go to download Java (I click on
> the link) and have to manually enter the filename. Why doesn't Mozilla do
> everything IE does? Why is there netscape AND Mozilla. Why do I have to
> install and maintain Java separately for such an essential service like
> a web browser to function. Who is so insecure about their future? Well,
> MS is, that's why they avoid competition. But apparently others too,
> like SUN? Any professionals out there who can offer the truths and
> solutions?
I use Opera and really like it. It will identify itself to your ISP (and the
rest of the world) as either Mozilla (back to 3.0) or IE 6. That may solve
some of your problems.
--George
| |
| George Self 2004-01-23, 7:23 pm |
| [snip]quote:
> 7. Neither my ISPs nor my bank support Mozilla. They
> refer me to netscape 4.77. I find I must install Java. There are
> instructions. Complicated instructions. I go to download Java (I click on
> the link) and have to manually enter the filename. Why doesn't Mozilla do
> everything IE does? Why is there netscape AND Mozilla. Why do I have to
> install and maintain Java separately for such an essential service like
> a web browser to function. Who is so insecure about their future? Well,
> MS is, that's why they avoid competition. But apparently others too,
> like SUN? Any professionals out there who can offer the truths and
> solutions?
I use Opera and really like it. It will identify itself to your ISP (and the
rest of the world) as either Mozilla (back to 3.0) or IE 6. That may solve
some of your problems.
--George
| |
| Bill Turner 2004-01-23, 7:23 pm |
| On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 16:41:29 GMT, "Mark A. Karnowski"
<mkarnowski@mindspring.com> wrote:
quote:
>I use
>a directory on my second permanently installed drive for those cases when
>I need to share data files btween Linux (SuSE 9.0 pro rocks!)
____________________
Exactly what I do too. Should have mentioned it. I store my Ghost
images there and now and then image to CD's just in case. Ghost is
really handy when you're fooling around with different OS's.
HD's all over the place. :-)
--
BT
| |
| George Self 2004-01-23, 7:23 pm |
| [snip]quote:
> 7. Neither my ISPs nor my bank support Mozilla. They
> refer me to netscape 4.77. I find I must install Java. There are
> instructions. Complicated instructions. I go to download Java (I click on
> the link) and have to manually enter the filename. Why doesn't Mozilla do
> everything IE does? Why is there netscape AND Mozilla. Why do I have to
> install and maintain Java separately for such an essential service like
> a web browser to function. Who is so insecure about their future? Well,
> MS is, that's why they avoid competition. But apparently others too,
> like SUN? Any professionals out there who can offer the truths and
> solutions?
I use Opera and really like it. It will identify itself to your ISP (and the
rest of the world) as either Mozilla (back to 3.0) or IE 6. That may solve
some of your problems.
--George
| |
| David Jones 2004-01-23, 7:24 pm |
| John Bailo wrote:quote:
> Each day I am amazed.
>
> OK DIG:
>
> On the task bar, on the Workspace Switcher, it shows four desktops and
> little indications of the apps that are running.
>
> Well -- you can DRAG AND DROP THOSE LITTLE APPS INTO THE DIFFERENT
> DESKTOPS.
>
> YES !
>
> I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT BUT YOU CAN.
>
> Xwindows, GNOME, Linux are so much more orthagonal it's not even funny !!
My GNOME is so cool:
1. It just crashed and when I restarted it the clock and Workspace
Switcher were missing. I am not about to delete .gnome and re-do my
"desktop". Bug. Crashed while using Thunderbird 0.3.
2. RH 9.0 download area now only offers downloads for Fedora or the
Enterprise version of the operating system I'm currently struggling with.
3. A couple weeks ago Terminal just stopped working; it opens but no prompt.
4. My /etc/hosts file gets consistently corrupted (exactly the same way
each time), thereby blocking browsing any anything else that requires DNS.
5. My web browser (Mozilla) cannot open while my email browser is running.
6. Ximian starts up automatically each time I startup. I don't want this.
7. Neither my ISPs nor my bank support Mozilla. They refer me to
Netscape 4.77. I find I must install Java. There are instructions.
Complicated instructions. I go to download Java (I click on the link)
and have to manually enter the filename. Why doesn't Mozilla do
everything IE does? Why is there netscape AND Mozilla. Why do I have to
install and maintain Java separately for such an essential service like
a web browser to function. Who is so insecure about their future? Well,
MS is, that's why they avoid competition. But apparently others too,
like SUN? Any professionals out there who can offer the truths and
solutions?
8. My file associations in Nautilus do not work. Right click, open
using, does nothing. No action. Have to open a terminal, type a lot of
cd's, then kick off the application giving a filename as a parameter. I
have to REMEMBER, of course, the application's command-line name, and
it's arguments.
Any technical solutions to the above would be greatly welcome.
Will any/all of the above shortcomings be totally solved if I just
switch to another brand of Linux, or a paid RH distribution? Not that
I'm keen, as a home user, to have to pay much for web, email, and text
processing? Nothing fancy.
Don't tell me to go to hell, I'm already there. I've got a dual-boot PC
with a broken RH9.0, and a broken Windows 2000; the latter's registry
got trashed when I un-installed and then re-installed my ISP's PPPoE
driver. I did nothing wrong. It suddenly just stopped working. It takes
about 30 minute and three to four reboots to install a broadband driver
(PPPoE) on Windows 2000. On Redhat 9.0 it takes 20 seconds. My ISP even
dispatch technicians at $160 a pop to run the Windows driver
installation program. Oh, I tried a Windows 2000 recovery and it made no
difference. Commercial software. Faring about as well as open source
software, given my experience so far (3 months on Redhat).
Imagine if cars crashed due to malfunction as often as computer
desktops? They're thinking of putting Windows into an automobile? Do
they have rocks in their head??? I wonder what Microsoft's disclaimers
will read like for THAT software (it's bad enough now, for example,
Microsoft is so terrified of third parties performance-testing .NET and
publishing results that they legally "forbid" it). Microsoft has been
killing our spirits with horrible software and soon they'll be killing
our bodies. Great.
Pen and paper and face-to-face, for anyone without time to waste.
DJ
| |
| Bill Turner 2004-01-23, 7:24 pm |
| On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:38:47 GMT, David Jones <DJ@nospam.com> wrote:
quote:
>I've got a dual-boot PC
>with a broken RH9.0, and a broken Windows 2000;
________________________________________
_________________
Instead of dual boot, consider having separate HD's in a swappable
carrier (or whatever they're called). Pick up a couple on ebay for less
than $20 plus the cost of another HD and your problem is solved. No way
either installation can interfere with the other. Buy a few more and
experiment with all the Linux flavors you like with no complications.
As a side benefit, the HD runs cooler due to the built in fan in the
carrier. Mine used to run about 95F, now it runs about 85F.
Try it, you'll like it.
--
BT
| |
| Mark A. Karnowski 2004-01-23, 7:24 pm |
| quote:
>
> Instead of dual boot, consider having separate HD's in a swappable
> carrier (or whatever they're called). Pick up a couple on ebay for less
> than $20 plus the cost of another HD and your problem is solved. No way
> either installation can interfere with the other. Buy a few more and
> experiment with all the Linux flavors you like with no complications.
>
> As a side benefit, the HD runs cooler due to the built in fan in the
> carrier. Mine used to run about 95F, now it runs about 85F.
>
> Try it, you'll like it.
Good to hear that someone else does this. It works out well for me. I use
a directory on my second permanently installed drive for those cases when
I need to share data files btween Linux (SuSE 9.0 pro rocks!) and Windows.
The carriers/trays are also available
at CompUSA or the equivalent for a very reasonable price.
Of course, once I get a new box and a KVM
switch..
Another plus is that you can have two or three Windows installations for
specialized uses, and keep them mean and lean for better performance.
Mark
| |
| Bill Turner 2004-01-23, 7:25 pm |
| On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 16:41:29 GMT, "Mark A. Karnowski"
<mkarnowski@mindspring.com> wrote:
quote:
>I use
>a directory on my second permanently installed drive for those cases when
>I need to share data files btween Linux (SuSE 9.0 pro rocks!)
____________________
Exactly what I do too. Should have mentioned it. I store my Ghost
images there and now and then image to CD's just in case. Ghost is
really handy when you're fooling around with different OS's.
HD's all over the place. :-)
--
BT
| |
| George Self 2004-01-23, 7:25 pm |
| [snip]quote:
> 7. Neither my ISPs nor my bank support Mozilla. They
> refer me to netscape 4.77. I find I must install Java. There are
> instructions. Complicated instructions. I go to download Java (I click on
> the link) and have to manually enter the filename. Why doesn't Mozilla do
> everything IE does? Why is there netscape AND Mozilla. Why do I have to
> install and maintain Java separately for such an essential service like
> a web browser to function. Who is so insecure about their future? Well,
> MS is, that's why they avoid competition. But apparently others too,
> like SUN? Any professionals out there who can offer the truths and
> solutions?
I use Opera and really like it. It will identify itself to your ISP (and the
rest of the world) as either Mozilla (back to 3.0) or IE 6. That may solve
some of your problems.
--George
| |
| David Jones 2004-01-23, 7:25 pm |
| John Bailo wrote:quote:
> Each day I am amazed.
>
> OK DIG:
>
> On the task bar, on the Workspace Switcher, it shows four desktops and
> little indications of the apps that are running.
>
> Well -- you can DRAG AND DROP THOSE LITTLE APPS INTO THE DIFFERENT
> DESKTOPS.
>
> YES !
>
> I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT BUT YOU CAN.
>
> Xwindows, GNOME, Linux are so much more orthagonal it's not even funny !!
My GNOME is so cool:
1. It just crashed and when I restarted it the clock and Workspace
Switcher were missing. I am not about to delete .gnome and re-do my
"desktop". Bug. Crashed while using Thunderbird 0.3.
2. RH 9.0 download area now only offers downloads for Fedora or the
Enterprise version of the operating system I'm currently struggling with.
3. A couple weeks ago Terminal just stopped working; it opens but no prompt.
4. My /etc/hosts file gets consistently corrupted (exactly the same way
each time), thereby blocking browsing any anything else that requires DNS.
5. My web browser (Mozilla) cannot open while my email browser is running.
6. Ximian starts up automatically each time I startup. I don't want this.
7. Neither my ISPs nor my bank support Mozilla. They refer me to
Netscape 4.77. I find I must install Java. There are instructions.
Complicated instructions. I go to download Java (I click on the link)
and have to manually enter the filename. Why doesn't Mozilla do
everything IE does? Why is there netscape AND Mozilla. Why do I have to
install and maintain Java separately for such an essential service like
a web browser to function. Who is so insecure about their future? Well,
MS is, that's why they avoid competition. But apparently others too,
like SUN? Any professionals out there who can offer the truths and
solutions?
8. My file associations in Nautilus do not work. Right click, open
using, does nothing. No action. Have to open a terminal, type a lot of
cd's, then kick off the application giving a filename as a parameter. I
have to REMEMBER, of course, the application's command-line name, and
it's arguments.
Any technical solutions to the above would be greatly welcome.
Will any/all of the above shortcomings be totally solved if I just
switch to another brand of Linux, or a paid RH distribution? Not that
I'm keen, as a home user, to have to pay much for web, email, and text
processing? Nothing fancy.
Don't tell me to go to hell, I'm already there. I've got a dual-boot PC
with a broken RH9.0, and a broken Windows 2000; the latter's registry
got trashed when I un-installed and then re-installed my ISP's PPPoE
driver. I did nothing wrong. It suddenly just stopped working. It takes
about 30 minute and three to four reboots to install a broadband driver
(PPPoE) on Windows 2000. On Redhat 9.0 it takes 20 seconds. My ISP even
dispatch technicians at $160 a pop to run the Windows driver
installation program. Oh, I tried a Windows 2000 recovery and it made no
difference. Commercial software. Faring about as well as open source
software, given my experience so far (3 months on Redhat).
Imagine if cars crashed due to malfunction as often as computer
desktops? They're thinking of putting Windows into an automobile? Do
they have rocks in their head??? I wonder what Microsoft's disclaimers
will read like for THAT software (it's bad enough now, for example,
Microsoft is so terrified of third parties performance-testing .NET and
publishing results that they legally "forbid" it). Microsoft has been
killing our spirits with horrible software and soon they'll be killing
our bodies. Great.
Pen and paper and face-to-face, for anyone without time to waste.
DJ
| |
| Bill Turner 2004-01-23, 7:25 pm |
| On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:38:47 GMT, David Jones <DJ@nospam.com> wrote:
quote:
>I've got a dual-boot PC
>with a broken RH9.0, and a broken Windows 2000;
________________________________________
_________________
Instead of dual boot, consider having separate HD's in a swappable
carrier (or whatever they're called). Pick up a couple on ebay for less
than $20 plus the cost of another HD and your problem is solved. No way
either installation can interfere with the other. Buy a few more and
experiment with all the Linux flavors you like with no complications.
As a side benefit, the HD runs cooler due to the built in fan in the
carrier. Mine used to run about 95F, now it runs about 85F.
Try it, you'll like it.
--
BT
| |
| Mark A. Karnowski 2004-01-23, 7:25 pm |
| quote:
>
> Instead of dual boot, consider having separate HD's in a swappable
> carrier (or whatever they're called). Pick up a couple on ebay for less
> than $20 plus the cost of another HD and your problem is solved. No way
> either installation can interfere with the other. Buy a few more and
> experiment with all the Linux flavors you like with no complications.
>
> As a side benefit, the HD runs cooler due to the built in fan in the
> carrier. Mine used to run about 95F, now it runs about 85F.
>
> Try it, you'll like it.
Good to hear that someone else does this. It works out well for me. I use
a directory on my second permanently installed drive for those cases when
I need to share data files btween Linux (SuSE 9.0 pro rocks!) and Windows.
The carriers/trays are also available
at CompUSA or the equivalent for a very reasonable price.
Of course, once I get a new box and a KVM
switch..
Another plus is that you can have two or three Windows installations for
specialized uses, and keep them mean and lean for better performance.
Mark
| |
| Bill Turner 2004-01-23, 7:25 pm |
| On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 16:41:29 GMT, "Mark A. Karnowski"
<mkarnowski@mindspring.com> wrote:
quote:
>I use
>a directory on my second permanently installed drive for those cases when
>I need to share data files btween Linux (SuSE 9.0 pro rocks!)
____________________
Exactly what I do too. Should have mentioned it. I store my Ghost
images there and now and then image to CD's just in case. Ghost is
really handy when you're fooling around with different OS's.
HD's all over the place. :-)
--
BT
| |
| George Self 2004-01-23, 7:25 pm |
| [snip]quote:
> 7. Neither my ISPs nor my bank support Mozilla. They
> refer me to netscape 4.77. I find I must install Java. There are
> instructions. Complicated instructions. I go to download Java (I click on
> the link) and have to manually enter the filename. Why doesn't Mozilla do
> everything IE does? Why is there netscape AND Mozilla. Why do I have to
> install and maintain Java separately for such an essential service like
> a web browser to function. Who is so insecure about their future? Well,
> MS is, that's why they avoid competition. But apparently others too,
> like SUN? Any professionals out there who can offer the truths and
> solutions?
I use Opera and really like it. It will identify itself to your ISP (and the
rest of the world) as either Mozilla (back to 3.0) or IE 6. That may solve
some of your problems.
--George
| |
| David Jones 2004-01-23, 7:27 pm |
| John Bailo wrote:quote:
> Each day I am amazed.
>
> OK DIG:
>
> On the task bar, on the Workspace Switcher, it shows four desktops and
> little indications of the apps that are running.
>
> Well -- you can DRAG AND DROP THOSE LITTLE APPS INTO THE DIFFERENT
> DESKTOPS.
>
> YES !
>
> I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT BUT YOU CAN.
>
> Xwindows, GNOME, Linux are so much more orthagonal it's not even funny !!
My GNOME is so cool:
1. It just crashed and when I restarted it the clock and Workspace
Switcher were missing. I am not about to delete .gnome and re-do my
"desktop". Bug. Crashed while using Thunderbird 0.3.
2. RH 9.0 download area now only offers downloads for Fedora or the
Enterprise version of the operating system I'm currently struggling with.
3. A couple weeks ago Terminal just stopped working; it opens but no prompt.
4. My /etc/hosts file gets consistently corrupted (exactly the same way
each time), thereby blocking browsing any anything else that requires DNS.
5. My web browser (Mozilla) cannot open while my email browser is running.
6. Ximian starts up automatically each time I startup. I don't want this.
7. Neither my ISPs nor my bank support Mozilla. They refer me to
Netscape 4.77. I find I must install Java. There are instructions.
Complicated instructions. I go to download Java (I click on the link)
and have to manually enter the filename. Why doesn't Mozilla do
everything IE does? Why is there netscape AND Mozilla. Why do I have to
install and maintain Java separately for such an essential service like
a web browser to function. Who is so insecure about their future? Well,
MS is, that's why they avoid competition. But apparently others too,
like SUN? Any professionals out there who can offer the truths and
solutions?
8. My file associations in Nautilus do not work. Right click, open
using, does nothing. No action. Have to open a terminal, type a lot of
cd's, then kick off the application giving a filename as a parameter. I
have to REMEMBER, of course, the application's command-line name, and
it's arguments.
Any technical solutions to the above would be greatly welcome.
Will any/all of the above shortcomings be totally solved if I just
switch to another brand of Linux, or a paid RH distribution? Not that
I'm keen, as a home user, to have to pay much for web, email, and text
processing? Nothing fancy.
Don't tell me to go to hell, I'm already there. I've got a dual-boot PC
with a broken RH9.0, and a broken Windows 2000; the latter's registry
got trashed when I un-installed and then re-installed my ISP's PPPoE
driver. I did nothing wrong. It suddenly just stopped working. It takes
about 30 minute and three to four reboots to install a broadband driver
(PPPoE) on Windows 2000. On Redhat 9.0 it takes 20 seconds. My ISP even
dispatch technicians at $160 a pop to run the Windows driver
installation program. Oh, I tried a Windows 2000 recovery and it made no
difference. Commercial software. Faring about as well as open source
software, given my experience so far (3 months on Redhat).
Imagine if cars crashed due to malfunction as often as computer
desktops? They're thinking of putting Windows into an automobile? Do
they have rocks in their head??? I wonder what Microsoft's disclaimers
will read like for THAT software (it's bad enough now, for example,
Microsoft is so terrified of third parties performance-testing .NET and
publishing results that they legally "forbid" it). Microsoft has been
killing our spirits with horrible software and soon they'll be killing
our bodies. Great.
Pen and paper and face-to-face, for anyone without time to waste.
DJ
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| Bill Turner 2004-01-23, 7:27 pm |
| On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:38:47 GMT, David Jones <DJ@nospam.com> wrote:
quote:
>I've got a dual-boot PC
>with a broken RH9.0, and a broken Windows 2000;
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Instead of dual boot, consider having separate HD's in a swappable
carrier (or whatever they're called). Pick up a couple on ebay for less
than $20 plus the cost of another HD and your problem is solved. No way
either installation can interfere with the other. Buy a few more and
experiment with all the Linux flavors you like with no complications.
As a side benefit, the HD runs cooler due to the built in fan in the
carrier. Mine used to run about 95F, now it runs about 85F.
Try it, you'll like it.
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BT
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| Mark A. Karnowski 2004-01-23, 7:27 pm |
| quote:
>
> Instead of dual boot, consider having separate HD's in a swappable
> carrier (or whatever they're called). Pick up a couple on ebay for less
> than $20 plus the cost of another HD and your problem is solved. No way
> either installation can interfere with the other. Buy a few more and
> experiment with all the Linux flavors you like with no complications.
>
> As a side benefit, the HD runs cooler due to the built in fan in the
> carrier. Mine used to run about 95F, now it runs about 85F.
>
> Try it, you'll like it.
Good to hear that someone else does this. It works out well for me. I use
a directory on my second permanently installed drive for those cases when
I need to share data files btween Linux (SuSE 9.0 pro rocks!) and Windows.
The carriers/trays are also available
at CompUSA or the equivalent for a very reasonable price.
Of course, once I get a new box and a KVM
switch..
Another plus is that you can have two or three Windows installations for
specialized uses, and keep them mean and lean for better performance.
Mark
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| Bill Turner 2004-01-23, 7:27 pm |
| On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 16:41:29 GMT, "Mark A. Karnowski"
<mkarnowski@mindspring.com> wrote:
quote:
>I use
>a directory on my second permanently installed drive for those cases when
>I need to share data files btween Linux (SuSE 9.0 pro rocks!)
____________________
Exactly what I do too. Should have mentioned it. I store my Ghost
images there and now and then image to CD's just in case. Ghost is
really handy when you're fooling around with different OS's.
HD's all over the place. :-)
--
BT
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| George Self 2004-01-23, 7:27 pm |
| [snip]quote:
> 7. Neither my ISPs nor my bank support Mozilla. They
> refer me to netscape 4.77. I find I must install Java. There are
> instructions. Complicated instructions. I go to download Java (I click on
> the link) and have to manually enter the filename. Why doesn't Mozilla do
> everything IE does? Why is there netscape AND Mozilla. Why do I have to
> install and maintain Java separately for such an essential service like
> a web browser to function. Who is so insecure about their future? Well,
> MS is, that's why they avoid competition. But apparently others too,
> like SUN? Any professionals out there who can offer the truths and
> solutions?
I use Opera and really like it. It will identify itself to your ISP (and the
rest of the world) as either Mozilla (back to 3.0) or IE 6. That may solve
some of your problems.
--George
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