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| Johnny Ventura 2004-01-23, 7:34 pm |
| Can samba work with NetBIOS, rather than TCP/IP? If so, how?
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| Andrew McLaren 2004-01-23, 7:35 pm |
| Johnny Ventura wrote:
quote:
> Can samba work with NetBIOS, rather than TCP/IP? If so, how?
Sorry, the question makes no sense.
NetBIOS is a programming API to enable various session and presentation
layer services. It is not, in and of itself, a network protocol.
Samba implements a CIFS server. CIFS (aka SMB) already uses NetBIOS over
TCP/IP.
The name "NetBIOS" is sometimes used, in IBM circles, to describe the
network protocol otherwise known as NetBEUI. NetBEUI is a simple protocol
and rather unfeatured - no routing, no hierarchical name space, very little
load-balancing or failover etc .... you don't want to use NetBEUI!!
Cheers
Andrew
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| Andrew McLaren 2004-01-23, 7:35 pm |
| Johnny Ventura wrote:
quote:
> Can samba work with NetBIOS, rather than TCP/IP? If so, how?
Sorry, the question makes no sense.
NetBIOS is a programming API to enable various session and presentation
layer services. It is not, in and of itself, a network protocol.
Samba implements a CIFS server. CIFS (aka SMB) already uses NetBIOS over
TCP/IP.
The name "NetBIOS" is sometimes used, in IBM circles, to describe the
network protocol otherwise known as NetBEUI. NetBEUI is a simple protocol
and rather unfeatured - no routing, no hierarchical name space, very little
load-balancing or failover etc .... you don't want to use NetBEUI!!
Cheers
Andrew
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| Andrew McLaren 2004-01-23, 7:35 pm |
| Johnny Ventura wrote:
quote:
> Can samba work with NetBIOS, rather than TCP/IP? If so, how?
Sorry, the question makes no sense.
NetBIOS is a programming API to enable various session and presentation
layer services. It is not, in and of itself, a network protocol.
Samba implements a CIFS server. CIFS (aka SMB) already uses NetBIOS over
TCP/IP.
The name "NetBIOS" is sometimes used, in IBM circles, to describe the
network protocol otherwise known as NetBEUI. NetBEUI is a simple protocol
and rather unfeatured - no routing, no hierarchical name space, very little
load-balancing or failover etc .... you don't want to use NetBEUI!!
Cheers
Andrew
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| Andrew McLaren 2004-01-23, 7:35 pm |
| Johnny Ventura wrote:
quote:
> Can samba work with NetBIOS, rather than TCP/IP? If so, how?
Sorry, the question makes no sense.
NetBIOS is a programming API to enable various session and presentation
layer services. It is not, in and of itself, a network protocol.
Samba implements a CIFS server. CIFS (aka SMB) already uses NetBIOS over
TCP/IP.
The name "NetBIOS" is sometimes used, in IBM circles, to describe the
network protocol otherwise known as NetBEUI. NetBEUI is a simple protocol
and rather unfeatured - no routing, no hierarchical name space, very little
load-balancing or failover etc .... you don't want to use NetBEUI!!
Cheers
Andrew
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| Johnny Ventura 2004-01-23, 7:35 pm |
| To clarify:
My Windows XT Home Edition machines only use the following protocol for file
and print sharing:
"NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol". That is its exact
name as specified in windows.
My question is whether samba can recognize this protocol? If so, how?
(There are no bindings to TCP/IP)
"Andrew McLaren" <andrewmclaren@bigpond.n0-s-p-a-m.com> wrote in message
news:Xns93DDDCB118FE4andrewmclaren@210.49.20.254...quote:
> Johnny Ventura wrote:
>
>
> Sorry, the question makes no sense.
>
> NetBIOS is a programming API to enable various session and presentation
> layer services. It is not, in and of itself, a network protocol.
>
> Samba implements a CIFS server. CIFS (aka SMB) already uses NetBIOS over
> TCP/IP.
>
> The name "NetBIOS" is sometimes used, in IBM circles, to describe the
> network protocol otherwise known as NetBEUI. NetBEUI is a simple protocol
> and rather unfeatured - no routing, no hierarchical name space, very
littlequote:
> load-balancing or failover etc .... you don't want to use NetBEUI!!
>
> Cheers
> Andrew
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| Johnny Ventura 2004-01-23, 7:35 pm |
| To clarify:
My Windows XT Home Edition machines only use the following protocol for file
and print sharing:
"NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol". That is its exact
name as specified in windows.
My question is whether samba can recognize this protocol? If so, how?
(There are no bindings to TCP/IP)
"Andrew McLaren" <andrewmclaren@bigpond.n0-s-p-a-m.com> wrote in message
news:Xns93DDDCB118FE4andrewmclaren@210.49.20.254...quote:
> Johnny Ventura wrote:
>
>
> Sorry, the question makes no sense.
>
> NetBIOS is a programming API to enable various session and presentation
> layer services. It is not, in and of itself, a network protocol.
>
> Samba implements a CIFS server. CIFS (aka SMB) already uses NetBIOS over
> TCP/IP.
>
> The name "NetBIOS" is sometimes used, in IBM circles, to describe the
> network protocol otherwise known as NetBEUI. NetBEUI is a simple protocol
> and rather unfeatured - no routing, no hierarchical name space, very
littlequote:
> load-balancing or failover etc .... you don't want to use NetBEUI!!
>
> Cheers
> Andrew
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| Johnny Ventura 2004-01-23, 7:35 pm |
| To clarify:
My Windows XT Home Edition machines only use the following protocol for file
and print sharing:
"NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol". That is its exact
name as specified in windows.
My question is whether samba can recognize this protocol? If so, how?
(There are no bindings to TCP/IP)
"Andrew McLaren" <andrewmclaren@bigpond.n0-s-p-a-m.com> wrote in message
news:Xns93DDDCB118FE4andrewmclaren@210.49.20.254...quote:
> Johnny Ventura wrote:
>
>
> Sorry, the question makes no sense.
>
> NetBIOS is a programming API to enable various session and presentation
> layer services. It is not, in and of itself, a network protocol.
>
> Samba implements a CIFS server. CIFS (aka SMB) already uses NetBIOS over
> TCP/IP.
>
> The name "NetBIOS" is sometimes used, in IBM circles, to describe the
> network protocol otherwise known as NetBEUI. NetBEUI is a simple protocol
> and rather unfeatured - no routing, no hierarchical name space, very
littlequote:
> load-balancing or failover etc .... you don't want to use NetBEUI!!
>
> Cheers
> Andrew
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| Johnny Ventura 2004-01-23, 7:35 pm |
| To clarify:
My Windows XT Home Edition machines only use the following protocol for file
and print sharing:
"NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol". That is its exact
name as specified in windows.
My question is whether samba can recognize this protocol? If so, how?
(There are no bindings to TCP/IP)
"Andrew McLaren" <andrewmclaren@bigpond.n0-s-p-a-m.com> wrote in message
news:Xns93DDDCB118FE4andrewmclaren@210.49.20.254...quote:
> Johnny Ventura wrote:
>
>
> Sorry, the question makes no sense.
>
> NetBIOS is a programming API to enable various session and presentation
> layer services. It is not, in and of itself, a network protocol.
>
> Samba implements a CIFS server. CIFS (aka SMB) already uses NetBIOS over
> TCP/IP.
>
> The name "NetBIOS" is sometimes used, in IBM circles, to describe the
> network protocol otherwise known as NetBEUI. NetBEUI is a simple protocol
> and rather unfeatured - no routing, no hierarchical name space, very
littlequote:
> load-balancing or failover etc .... you don't want to use NetBEUI!!
>
> Cheers
> Andrew
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| Andrew McLaren 2004-01-23, 7:35 pm |
| Johnny Ventura wrote:
quote:
> To clarify:
>
> My Windows XT Home Edition machines only use the following protocol
> for file and print sharing:
>
> "NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol". That is its
> exact name as specified in windows.
>
> My question is whether samba can recognize this protocol? If so, how?
>
> (There are no bindings to TCP/IP)
NWLink is Microsoft's clone of the IPX/SPX protocol once used by Novell
Netware. Once upon a time, IPX was a common protocol on corporate LANs.
These days, it has been replaced by TCP/IP; even at sites which still run
Netware Servers (except for a few Netware 3.11 hold-outs).
Samba is a TCP/IP application. It uses TCP/IP to communicate with clients.
Samba cannot communicate using IPX/SPX.
Since Sockets can be used for both TCP/IP and IPX, you could - in theory -
adapt Samba to use IPX; but there's no point.
XP uses TCP/IP by default. I guess you must have replaced it with IPX at
some stage. For practical purposes, your best bet would be to install
TCP/IP instead of IPX on your XP box and just use TCP/IP. TCP/IP is by far
the most universal linga franca of networking; and with good reason - it is
superior to IPX, DECNet, SNA and other deceased protocls of the past.
Cheers
Andrew
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| Andrew McLaren 2004-01-23, 7:35 pm |
| Johnny Ventura wrote:
quote:
> To clarify:
>
> My Windows XT Home Edition machines only use the following protocol
> for file and print sharing:
>
> "NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol". That is its
> exact name as specified in windows.
>
> My question is whether samba can recognize this protocol? If so, how?
>
> (There are no bindings to TCP/IP)
NWLink is Microsoft's clone of the IPX/SPX protocol once used by Novell
Netware. Once upon a time, IPX was a common protocol on corporate LANs.
These days, it has been replaced by TCP/IP; even at sites which still run
Netware Servers (except for a few Netware 3.11 hold-outs).
Samba is a TCP/IP application. It uses TCP/IP to communicate with clients.
Samba cannot communicate using IPX/SPX.
Since Sockets can be used for both TCP/IP and IPX, you could - in theory -
adapt Samba to use IPX; but there's no point.
XP uses TCP/IP by default. I guess you must have replaced it with IPX at
some stage. For practical purposes, your best bet would be to install
TCP/IP instead of IPX on your XP box and just use TCP/IP. TCP/IP is by far
the most universal linga franca of networking; and with good reason - it is
superior to IPX, DECNet, SNA and other deceased protocls of the past.
Cheers
Andrew
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| Andrew McLaren 2004-01-23, 7:35 pm |
| Johnny Ventura wrote:
quote:
> To clarify:
>
> My Windows XT Home Edition machines only use the following protocol
> for file and print sharing:
>
> "NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol". That is its
> exact name as specified in windows.
>
> My question is whether samba can recognize this protocol? If so, how?
>
> (There are no bindings to TCP/IP)
NWLink is Microsoft's clone of the IPX/SPX protocol once used by Novell
Netware. Once upon a time, IPX was a common protocol on corporate LANs.
These days, it has been replaced by TCP/IP; even at sites which still run
Netware Servers (except for a few Netware 3.11 hold-outs).
Samba is a TCP/IP application. It uses TCP/IP to communicate with clients.
Samba cannot communicate using IPX/SPX.
Since Sockets can be used for both TCP/IP and IPX, you could - in theory -
adapt Samba to use IPX; but there's no point.
XP uses TCP/IP by default. I guess you must have replaced it with IPX at
some stage. For practical purposes, your best bet would be to install
TCP/IP instead of IPX on your XP box and just use TCP/IP. TCP/IP is by far
the most universal linga franca of networking; and with good reason - it is
superior to IPX, DECNet, SNA and other deceased protocls of the past.
Cheers
Andrew
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| Andrew McLaren 2004-01-23, 7:35 pm |
| Johnny Ventura wrote:
quote:
> To clarify:
>
> My Windows XT Home Edition machines only use the following protocol
> for file and print sharing:
>
> "NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol". That is its
> exact name as specified in windows.
>
> My question is whether samba can recognize this protocol? If so, how?
>
> (There are no bindings to TCP/IP)
NWLink is Microsoft's clone of the IPX/SPX protocol once used by Novell
Netware. Once upon a time, IPX was a common protocol on corporate LANs.
These days, it has been replaced by TCP/IP; even at sites which still run
Netware Servers (except for a few Netware 3.11 hold-outs).
Samba is a TCP/IP application. It uses TCP/IP to communicate with clients.
Samba cannot communicate using IPX/SPX.
Since Sockets can be used for both TCP/IP and IPX, you could - in theory -
adapt Samba to use IPX; but there's no point.
XP uses TCP/IP by default. I guess you must have replaced it with IPX at
some stage. For practical purposes, your best bet would be to install
TCP/IP instead of IPX on your XP box and just use TCP/IP. TCP/IP is by far
the most universal linga franca of networking; and with good reason - it is
superior to IPX, DECNet, SNA and other deceased protocls of the past.
Cheers
Andrew
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