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someone@nospam.demon.co.uk

2004-10-26, 5:50 pm

I am using Fedora 2

One thing and another I've installed FC quite a few times.
I have never managed to get up2date to work.
I tried YUM and that didn't work.
Both of them start OK and then hang.
Last reinstall but one I didn't install everything as I usually do
and then found that it wouldn't let me install something which
I had forgotten to install.

So it looks as if something to with the package management doesn't
get installed.

It would be obvious that the CDs are faulty but the checksum always
is OK


So:

Is there any other test that I can do to check the CDs that
I'm installing from?

I still have the ISO images. I know it is possible to install by
putting on the hard drive and mounting them but I can't
find any info on how to do this.
(the release notes only mention this in passing and a web
search returned nothing)

Any pointers?

David

PS Apart from this problem FC2 seems to work fine

daividb2000 at yahoo.com


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Paul Lutus

2004-10-26, 5:50 pm

someone@nospam.demon.co.uk wrote:

> I am using Fedora 2
>
> One thing and another I've installed FC quite a few times.
> I have never managed to get up2date to work.
> I tried YUM and that didn't work.
> Both of them start OK and then hang.
> Last reinstall but one I didn't install everything as I usually do
> and then found that it wouldn't let me install something which
> I had forgotten to install.


Define "wouldn't let me install". Leave nothing to the imagination.

>
> So it looks as if something to with the package management doesn't
> get installed.


That depends. How did you try to perform the installation?

>
> It would be obvious that the CDs are faulty but the checksum always
> is OK


Define "OK". Did you download the md5sum file for the ISO files, test the
ISO files against it, then test the created CDs against it?

> I still have the ISO images. I know it is possible to install by
> putting on the hard drive and mounting them but I can't
> find any info on how to do this.


$ sudo mount -t iso9660 -o ro,loop (path to ISO) (mount point)

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Lenard

2004-10-26, 5:50 pm

On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:26:20 +0000, someone wrote:

> I am using Fedora 2
>
> One thing and another I've installed FC quite a few times. I have never
> managed to get up2date to work. I tried YUM and that didn't work. Both
> of them start OK and then hang.


Many prefer to use apt/synaptic; http://tettnang.freshrpms.net/

<snip>

> I still have the ISO images. I know it is possible to install by
> putting on the hard drive and mounting them but I can't find any info on
> how to do this.


mount -t iso9660 /path/to/image /mnt/somewhere -o loop

See 'man mount' for the details.


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Markku Kolkka

2004-10-26, 5:50 pm

someone@nospam.demon.co.uk wrote:
> One thing and another I've installed FC quite a few times.
> I have never managed to get up2date to work.
> I tried YUM and that didn't work.
> Both of them start OK and then hang.


The first run of yum and up2date will take a long time as they need to
load all the RPM header information from the repository.
You should configure them to use a mirror server close to you instead of
the main Red Hat server.

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someone@nospam.demon.co.uk

2004-10-26, 8:46 pm

On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:32:39 -0700, Paul Lutus <nospam@nosite.zzz>
wrote:
>
>Define "wouldn't let me install". Leave nothing to the imagination.


I click the bit on the menu for remove or add items.
I can click extra things no probs.
Then if I hit the update button it starts to go wrong.

My last install would just hang at that point.
It would hang at just the point where I'd be waiting
for it to tell me which disk it needed but it would
never get there.

My current install tells me it can't go further
because several things aren't installed xinetd, arts, libfan
(libfam? my hand writing is terrible) libfan.so.o
and a couple of other. I did recut disk 1
but the difference may be just that the
first time I was installing kernel headers and the second time
PAN and some other GUI internet stuff.

I tried uninstalling something and it worked fine

You said leave nothing to the imagination so and I know that
the above is a little vague so probably I need to try it all over.
However I'm not using Fedora at the moment (my newsreader
is what I'm trying to get installed) and as it is 1 in the morning
here in London I , maybe, should sensible and do it in the morning.
You may want to wait for me to do that so I can post a fuller
description
before posting your follow up.

>
>That depends. How did you try to perform the installation?


Stick the first CD in the drive. Reboot the machine. I answer
the questions that the GUI asks of me. Then keep changing the
CDs until it finishes. Like I said the installation has seemed to
go without a hitch every time. It's only when later I try to do
anything with new packages I hit problems. (Normally I install
software from source so it is only that I can't use up2date or YUM
that has been a problem).

I've got the feeling that there is something behind your question
that I'm missing.


>
>Define "OK". Did you download the md5sum file for the ISO files, test the
>ISO files against it, then test the created CDs against it?


I checked the checksum of the ISO image before I cut the CDs.
For the CDs themselves I've relied on the check that happens
at the beginning of the install. That is right after you reboot
the computer and the installation program gives you the option
of checking all the disks. Will the checksum of the CDs be the same
as the ISO images?

>
>$ sudo mount -t iso9660 -o ro,loop (path to ISO) (mount point)


Right's the first stage, thanks for that, indeed thanks to both
of you for answering.

I will try mounting them and it may be clear what I do next.

At the moment I haven't a clue what I will have to do
next. When you install from the
CDs you need to reboot the machine to get the whole show
off the ground. If having mounted the images I reboot the
images will get unmounted. So how do I tell it to start installing?
How does Fedora shut down and hand over to the installation
program?


Anyway thanks a lot to the both of you for replying so quickly.
Much apreciated


David

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Paul Lutus

2004-10-26, 8:46 pm

someone@nospam.demon.co.uk wrote:

> On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:32:39 -0700, Paul Lutus <nospam@nosite.zzz>
> wrote:
>
> I click the bit on the menu for remove or add items.
> I can click extra things no probs.
> Then if I hit the update button it starts to go wrong.


Please define ... Oh, never mind.

/ ... snip rampant prose recital of disconnected events

> I've got the feeling that there is something behind your question
> that I'm missing.


Like a desire for specifics, something concrete enough that one might offer
productive assiatance? Your prose reads like a Tennessee Williams novel. I
expect Blanche Dubois to make an appeararance at any moment.

There is nothing wrong with your writing, nothing at all. It just isn't the
kind of prose that is useful in a meaningful discussion of technology.

In the future, try saying something like:

"I typed the following command (copied directly from my shell session)
_________________. Then the computer emitted the following error message
(similarly copied directly from the console) _________________"

If I want to make a point in a computer newsgroup, I say:

"Here is what happened:

$ ls -la zzz
ls: zzz: No such file or directory"

But I do not say "I typed something that I forget, then things started to go
wrong."

I wonder what you would have done at Lakehurst, New Jersey the afternoon of
May 6, 1937. "Hello, is this my editor? Are you ready to copy? Okay, that
big blimp tried to dock here today, but things started to go wrong." Oh,
the humanity.

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David Barnsdale

2004-10-28, 7:48 am

What I thought was one big problem
that I couldn't handle has turned
out to be several unrelated problems that
I think I can handle.

That is thanks to the questions you posed.
So thanks.

Thanks also for the advice about posting.

David


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