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| Richard Gosling 2004-02-12, 8:34 pm |
| Hi,
I have just installed a bare bones web server (Fedora Core) and becuase it's
on an old PC with small hard drive, I decided not to bother installing X and
went for the text based system.
My poblem now comes in finding decent online tutorials and reference
information for text based admin. Everything I have found so far on the
RedHat site and via Google searches is based around the use of Gnome, KDE or
other popular GUIs.
OK, I know I can look stuff up in the man pages, but as I am relatively new
to Linux, I don't know what commands I need to look up in the first place.
Can anyone out there point me to a decent web site that will step me through
configuring my webserver via command line please?
TIA,
Richard.
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| Jacob Heider 2004-02-12, 9:33 pm |
| On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 09:15:55 +0000, Richard Gosling wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have just installed a bare bones web server (Fedora Core) and becuase it's
> on an old PC with small hard drive, I decided not to bother installing X and
> went for the text based system.
>
> My poblem now comes in finding decent online tutorials and reference
> information for text based admin. Everything I have found so far on the
> RedHat site and via Google searches is based around the use of Gnome, KDE or
> other popular GUIs.
>
> OK, I know I can look stuff up in the man pages, but as I am relatively new
> to Linux, I don't know what commands I need to look up in the first place.
>
> Can anyone out there point me to a decent web site that will step me through
> configuring my webserver via command line please?
>
> TIA,
>
> Richard.
The main issue is that if you are going to be configuring things without
X, you will be using {vi,emacs,nano,joe,etc.} for the most part. The
distro packagers tend to make graphical utilities for setting up certain
configuration files, but you'll just have to do it by hand.
Congratulations, you are about to learn *a*lot* about how linux works. If
you are trying to set up a web-server, I'd pick a text editor (once you
learn vi, you can't live without it, IMHO) and peruse 'man httpd', look at
/etc/httpd.conf, and read the Apache website about the configuration file.
The trick to learning is to get one thing working at a time, then build on
it. There's a lot of documentation in the httpd.conf file anyway, and you
may be able to do most (if not all) your initial configuration just from
reading that file. Plus, we're all here to help if exhaust your other
resources.
HTH
Jacob
P.S. BTW, you did install either lynx, links, or w3m, right? You'll want a
web-browser...
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| Robert M. Riches Jr. 2004-02-13, 5:35 am |
| In article <c0i4o3$8gq$1@thorium.cix.co.uk>, Richard Gosling wrote:
>
> I have just installed a bare bones web server (Fedora Core) and becuase it's
> on an old PC with small hard drive, I decided not to bother installing X and
> went for the text based system.
>
> My poblem now comes in finding decent online tutorials and reference
> information for text based admin. Everything I have found so far on the
> RedHat site and via Google searches is based around the use of Gnome, KDE or
> other popular GUIs.
>
> OK, I know I can look stuff up in the man pages, but as I am relatively new
> to Linux, I don't know what commands I need to look up in the first place.
>
> Can anyone out there point me to a decent web site that will step me through
> configuring my webserver via command line please?
Does Fedora still have the redhat-config-* utilities? If
so, any of those whose names end in 'tui' should be usable
without X.
Another idea that might help would be to run the utilities
on the web server but display them on another machine that
does have X. You might need to install some portions of
XFree86 but just not fire up an X server. You should be
able to ssh in to the web server machine and then run the
X clients.
Good luck.
Robert Riches
spamtrap42@verizon.net
(Yes, that is one of my email addresses.)
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| On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 09:15:55 -0000,
"Richard Gosling" <richard.gosling@synectics-solutions.com> wrote:
> My problem now comes in finding decent online tutorials and reference
> information for text based admin. Everything I have found so far on the
> RedHat site and via Google searches is based around the use of Gnome, KDE or
> other popular GUIs.
I've found many of those to be little more than a half-hearted
walk-through of filling in the blanks in the GUI. There's several
configuration GUIs with parts that are totally unexplained (what they're
for, how to properly put data into them, etc.).
> OK, I know I can look stuff up in the man pages, but as I am relatively new
> to Linux, I don't know what commands I need to look up in the first place.
If you were looking for something to format a disk, you could type:
apropos format
And it'd search through the manuals, listing ones that mention
formatting.
> Can anyone out there point me to a decent web site that will step me through
> configuring my webserver via command line please?
I went for something more traditional, and bought a book. It also meant
I could read help when the computer isn't working (the main problem with
on-line help is that you need another, working, computer).
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| Andrew Spartz 2004-02-14, 9:34 am |
| Richard Gosling <richard.gosling@synectics-solutions.com> wrote:
> I have just installed a bare bones web server (Fedora Core) and becuase it's
> on an old PC with small hard drive, I decided not to bother installing X and
> went for the text based system.
<snip>
> Can anyone out there point me to a decent web site that will step me through
> configuring my webserver via command line please?
>
> TIA,
>
> Richard.
I know this isn't what you're asking, but since you do have a webserver
running, have you considered running webmin on the sever? This will
give you, IMHO, tolerable GUI configurations for most things on a remote
LAN workstation. IIRC it's not initially set up to standalone ather
then w/ apache, but can be easily adapted.
Just an idea.
ARS
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| Richard Gosling 2004-02-15, 8:34 pm |
| Ah, a book. I read one of those once ;-)
Thanks for the command search tip, that will be usefull.
I feel a trip to my local library comming on.
Richard.
"Tim" <Tim@mail.localhost> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 09:15:55 -0000,
> "Richard Gosling" <richard.gosling@synectics-solutions.com> wrote:
>
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>
> I've found many of those to be little more than a half-hearted
> walk-through of filling in the blanks in the GUI. There's several
> configuration GUIs with parts that are totally unexplained (what they're
> for, how to properly put data into them, etc.).
>
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place.[color=blue]
>
> If you were looking for something to format a disk, you could type:
>
> apropos format
>
> And it'd search through the manuals, listing ones that mention
> formatting.
>
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>
> I went for something more traditional, and bought a book. It also meant
> I could read help when the computer isn't working (the main problem with
> on-line help is that you need another, working, computer).
>
> --
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| Richard Gosling 2004-02-15, 9:33 pm |
| I had thought of using that method to administer the mysql database once I
get everything else runing, but I hadn't thought of looking for other web
admin tools. I will certainly consider it.
Thanks,
Richard.
"Andrew Spartz" <aspartzNOSPAM@pinenet.com> wrote in message
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> Richard Gosling <richard.gosling@synectics-solutions.com> wrote:
>
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>
> <snip>
>
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>
> I know this isn't what you're asking, but since you do have a webserver
> running, have you considered running webmin on the sever? This will
> give you, IMHO, tolerable GUI configurations for most things on a remote
> LAN workstation. IIRC it's not initially set up to standalone ather
> then w/ apache, but can be easily adapted.
>
> Just an idea.
>
> ARS
>
>
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| On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 10:12:53 -0000,
"Richard Gosling" <richard.gosling@synectics-solutions.com> wrote:
> I'm quite happy to learn more about the insides of Linux. Much of my early
> experience with computers was with systems like BBC Micros and Commodore
> PETs. With those systems, you had to know a bit about the architecture if
> you wanted to write any half decent applications. But as with many people I
> later went down the easier route of "Point, Click, GPF" with Windows.
Point, click, general protection fault? ;-)
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| Richard Gosling 2004-02-16, 2:39 am |
| Oh, so you've used Windows too then?
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> On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 10:12:53 -0000,
> "Richard Gosling" <richard.gosling@synectics-solutions.com> wrote:
>
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> Point, click, general protection fault? ;-)
>
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