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Hiking

2004-04-05, 8:39 am

Hello all,

Not to worry, I'll get around to acquiring RH9 soon enough, but for now,
I have this RH6.1 book with CD (which I'd bought some time ago, but
hadn't yet gotten into 'cause didn't have enough HD space on my laptop,
but now have bought home system).

Although I only live 20 mins outside of Toronto, there's no High Speed
service available in my area (bloody hell, in lil 'ol New Brunswick, you
could get High Speed virtually anywhere in the province), so I'll have
to get someone to dload RH9 for me and burn it.

So there, please refrain from flaming me about still using RH6.1 :-)

Problem is, I'll still need use of WinME, so I need to dual-boot.
However, the first 20GB of my 60GB HD is used by WinME. I used
Partition Magic to create a 12MB Linux Boot partition, a 200MB swap
partition, and a 25MB Linux Root partition, but the installation program
craps out as soon as I try to choose the type of installation ,Gnome or
KDE, with the msg "An error occurred reading the partition table for the
block device hda. The error was: No such file or directory". If I
click the Retry button, I get the same msg, except this time the end
part says "The error was: Success". If I keep clicking Retry, I keep
getting this same msg, if I click Cancel, I get "No valid devices were
found on which to create new file systems". Yet when the install
starts, on the "DOS screen", I see it finding my HD, and later
identifying it as "hda".

Now the book mentions something about the importance of the root
partition needing to be completely below the 1023rd cylinder, so's the
bios will be able to address the cylinders and sectors of the boot
partition. So I created a 16MB Linux partition at the very begining of
the drive space, and it still wouldn't work, same error. I then went
back Partition Magic, verified that the Linux 16MB boot partition was
indeed a primary partition... it was. I then set the Linux boot
partition as the active partition, but with the same error as a reward.

In days past, I would have found this exciting, an interesting,
challenging problem to solve... but that would have been in days past
alright, now I'm just pissed off with this foolishness, I don't have
time to "f" around with this now, which is why I'm writing you for
help... I just want to get this thing up and running and go from there.
Any assistance is greatly appreciated. Thanks.


Lenard

2004-04-05, 9:36 am

On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 08:00:30 -0400, Hiking wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> Not to worry, I'll get around to acquiring RH9 soon enough, but for now,
> I have this RH6.1 book with CD (which I'd bought some time ago, but
> hadn't yet gotten into 'cause didn't have enough HD space on my laptop,
> but now have bought home system).


<snip>

> Now the book mentions something about the importance of the root
> partition needing to be completely below the 1023rd cylinder, so's the
> bios will be able to address the cylinders and sectors of the boot
> partition. So I created a 16MB Linux partition at the very begining of
> the drive space, and it still wouldn't work, same error. I then went
> back Partition Magic, verified that the Linux 16MB boot partition was
> indeed a primary partition... it was. I then set the Linux boot
> partition as the active partition, but with the same error as a reward.


Good, this 16MB partition will be the '/boot' partition for Red Hat Linux,
you might want to consider making this partition a bit bigger, say 100-MB.
Since your planning on going to RHL9 shortly, plan for it now, which is
why you want the 100-MB partition.

Don't use Partition Magic to create the Linux partitions, let Linux create
them. Use Partition Magic to delete the Linux partitions you created and
leave the space blank and unformatted.


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Hiking

2004-04-05, 10:37 am

Lenard wrote:

> On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 08:00:30 -0400, Hiking wrote:
>
>
>
>
> <snip>
>
>
>
> Good, this 16MB partition will be the '/boot' partition for Red Hat Linux,
> you might want to consider making this partition a bit bigger, say 100-MB.
> Since your planning on going to RHL9 shortly, plan for it now, which is
> why you want the 100-MB partition.
>
> Don't use Partition Magic to create the Linux partitions, let Linux create
> them. Use Partition Magic to delete the Linux partitions you created and
> leave the space blank and unformatted.
>
>

Ok, thanks Lenard, I'll try that later this evening, don't think I'll be
able to get to it sooner.

Tumbleweed

2004-04-05, 4:34 pm


"Hiking" <removethishiking2000@gmx.net> wrote in message
news:Iwdcc.6391$wq4.563450@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Lenard wrote:
>
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> Ok, thanks Lenard, I'll try that later this evening, don't think I'll be
> able to get to it sooner.
>

You have backed up your ME system, right?

--
Tumbleweed

Remove my socks for email address


Hiking

2004-04-05, 7:38 pm

Lenard wrote:

>
> Good, this 16MB partition will be the '/boot' partition for Red Hat Linux,
> you might want to consider making this partition a bit bigger, say 100-MB.
> Since your planning on going to RHL9 shortly, plan for it now, which is
> why you want the 100-MB partition.
>
> Don't use Partition Magic to create the Linux partitions, let Linux create
> them. Use Partition Magic to delete the Linux partitions you created and
> leave the space blank and unformatted.
>
>

Done Lenard, same result. The boot partition is at the beginning of the
drive, but the unused space is 1/2 way back to the end of the drive,
which is ok, right? Now I've tried leaving the WinME partition active,
and the unused first partition inactive, got same msg as before, so I
then made the first partition active this time around, and still getting
the same msg. I've since made the second partition (WinME) active
again, and my system boots fine, it's only the RH install/setup program
that doesn't seem to be able to handle my HD. Any ideas? Thanks again.

Richard


P.S. Tumbleweed, I did not backup, no, I haven't put that machine to use
yet... still using my laptop as my main system, still experimenting with
this new system, nothing important on this system yet.

Lenard

2004-04-06, 9:35 am

On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 18:55:04 -0400, Hiking wrote:

> Done Lenard, same result. The boot partition is at the beginning of the
> drive, but the unused space is 1/2 way back to the end of the drive,
> which is ok, right? Now I've tried leaving the WinME partition active,
> and the unused first partition inactive, got same msg as before, so I
> then made the first partition active this time around, and still getting
> the same msg. I've since made the second partition (WinME) active
> again, and my system boots fine, it's only the RH install/setup program
> that doesn't seem to be able to handle my HD. Any ideas? Thanks again.


Well Red Hat Linux 6.1 is old and was(is) a bit of a problem to install on
many systems(lots of motherboard/BIOS issues). You will have better luck
installing a newer version,like Red Hat Linux 7.3, then 6.1. You can
purchase Red Hat Linux 9 (Pink Tie) cheaply (and many other versions of
Linux also), example;

http://cart.cheapbytes.com/cgi-bin/cart

(Pink Tie 9 == Red Hat Linux 9, Pink Tie 10 == Fedora Core 1)


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Copyright remains with the author
Hiking

2004-04-08, 5:45 am

Lenard wrote:

> On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 18:55:04 -0400, Hiking wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Well Red Hat Linux 6.1 is old and was(is) a bit of a problem to install on
> many systems(lots of motherboard/BIOS issues). You will have better luck
> installing a newer version,like Red Hat Linux 7.3, then 6.1. You can
> purchase Red Hat Linux 9 (Pink Tie) cheaply (and many other versions of
> Linux also), example;
>
> http://cart.cheapbytes.com/cgi-bin/cart
>
> (Pink Tie 9 == Red Hat Linux 9, Pink Tie 10 == Fedora Core 1)
>
>

Thanks Lenard,

I had another drive here, a Fujitsu which had info on it which I wanted
to keep, but I decided to try see if Linux would at least be able to see
the partition info if I installed the Fujitsu, and sure enough, it
worked. I slaved the Fujitsu to my Maxtor (the 60GB HD that Linux
didn't want to see) and transfered all needed data to the Maxtor and am
now attempting to install Linux onto the Fujitsu, but the installer gets
as far as installing packages, and is attempting to install 432MB of
packages, but it keeps hanging every time at the 44MB remaining mark.

Now, is that 390-some MB mark where the 1023 first cylinders end
approximately? As I'd understood, the Root dir had to be in within
those first 1023 cyls, and the rest didn't matter... any ideas as to why
it's hanging at this stage all the time? I've dloaded a minimal version
of Linux... Linux Puppy, or something? I'll have to look for the name
again, but I'm going to try to install that version until such time as I
can get my hands on another more complete one.

I'll let you know what's happening, but in the meantime, if you have any
ideas as to what else I should be looking for or trying in order to
finally have a successful Linux install, suggest away.

Richard

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