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JethroUK©

2006-06-11, 7:18 pm

I've asked before without success but:

How do you protect streaming video (.wmv) from being stored (saved as a
file)

I have to make hundreds of teaching aids via streaming video (from my pc)
and i would obviously like to prevent end user from stealing them all

I've been told previously that it can't be done, but many of the streaming
videos on the web are protected this way so i know it is possible - just
dont know how - i would imagine it's something in header that disables
saving or buffering (like .ra file), or maybe something server end


Daniel Crichton

2006-06-12, 7:25 am

JethroUK© wrote on Sun, 11 Jun 2006 22:25:45 GMT:

> I've asked before without success but:
>
> How do you protect streaming video (.wmv) from being stored (saved as a
> file)
>
> I have to make hundreds of teaching aids via streaming video (from my pc)
> and i would obviously like to prevent end user from stealing them all
>
> I've been told previously that it can't be done, but many of the streaming
> videos on the web are protected this way so i know it is possible - just
> dont know how - i would imagine it's something in header that disables
> saving or buffering (like .ra file), or maybe something server end
>


The short answer is that it can't be done. Anything that is sent to a client
PC can be saved, there are plenty of free tools to get around streamed video
save prevention. Quicktime tries to get around it using 2 video files - 1 to
load into the QT control itself, which then loads the actual video in the
background - however even this is relatively simple to get around.

Dan


Mike Lowery

2006-06-12, 1:24 pm


"JethroUK©" <reply@the.board> wrote in message
news:JL0jg.18659$x53.3905@newsfe1-win.ntli.net...
> I've asked before without success but:
>
> How do you protect streaming video (.wmv) from being stored (saved as a
> file)
>
> I have to make hundreds of teaching aids via streaming video (from my pc)
> and i would obviously like to prevent end user from stealing them all
>
> I've been told previously that it can't be done, but many of the streaming
> videos on the web are protected this way so i know it is possible - just
> dont know how - i would imagine it's something in header that disables
> saving or buffering (like .ra file), or maybe something server end


The official way is to use DRM:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Rights_Management


Phil Frisbie, Jr.

2006-06-12, 1:24 pm

JethroUK© wrote:

> I've asked before without success but:
>
> How do you protect streaming video (.wmv) from being stored (saved as a
> file)


The only fool-proof way is to not let people watch it!

> I have to make hundreds of teaching aids via streaming video (from my pc)
> and i would obviously like to prevent end user from stealing them all
>
> I've been told previously that it can't be done, but many of the streaming
> videos on the web are protected this way so i know it is possible - just
> dont know how - i would imagine it's something in header that disables
> saving or buffering (like .ra file), or maybe something server end


No, they just use techniques to make it HARDER for the casual computer user. A
person determined to download a copy can get tools from the Internet that will
copy any format.

--
Phil Frisbie, Jr.
Hawk Software
http://www.hawksoft.com
JethroUK©

2006-06-12, 1:24 pm

"...No, they just use techniques to make it HARDER for the casual computer
user..."

on the assumption that nothing is impossible - is there anything i can do to
make it 'harder' (disable save)?



"Phil Frisbie, Jr." <phil@hawksoft.com> wrote in message
news:eV$lWljjGHA.4044@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> JethroUK© wrote:
>
>
> The only fool-proof way is to not let people watch it!
>
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>
> No, they just use techniques to make it HARDER for the casual computer

user. A
> person determined to download a copy can get tools from the Internet that

will
> copy any format.
>
> --
> Phil Frisbie, Jr.
> Hawk Software
> http://www.hawksoft.com



Robert Aldwinckle

2006-06-12, 7:22 pm

(crosspost to IE RM added)
"JethroUK©" <reply@the.board> wrote in message
news:JL0jg.18659$x53.3905@newsfe1-win.ntli.net
....
> I've asked before without success but:
>
> How do you protect streaming video (.wmv) from being stored (saved as a
> file)



Crossposted to:

microsoft.public.inetserver.iis.security,
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6.browser,
microsoft.public.windowsmedia.encoder,
microsoft.public.windowsmedia.player

but not

microsoft.public.internetexplorer.rights_management ?
(Now added.)

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsser...mt/default.mspx

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie...s/addon/rm.mspx

Looks as if an Office newsgroup might also be applicable.

http://www.microsoft.com/office/edi...o/overview.mspx


>
> I have to make hundreds of teaching aids via streaming video (from my pc)
> and i would obviously like to prevent end user from stealing them all
>
> I've been told previously that it can't be done, but many of the streaming
> videos on the web are protected this way so i know it is possible - just
> dont know how - i would imagine it's something in header that disables
> saving or buffering (like .ra file), or maybe something server end
>
>



Good luck

Robert Aldwinckle
---


Mike Lowery

2006-06-13, 7:20 pm

By default, WMP does not cache or allow the user to save streamed content.
Downloaded content is another story.

"JethroUK©" <reply@the.board> wrote in message
news:cXgjg.3415$s4.848@newsfe3-win.ntli.net...
> "...No, they just use techniques to make it HARDER for the casual computer
> user..."
>
> on the assumption that nothing is impossible - is there anything i can do to
> make it 'harder' (disable save)?
>
>
>
> "Phil Frisbie, Jr." <phil@hawksoft.com> wrote in message
> news:eV$lWljjGHA.4044@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> pc)
> streaming
> user. A
> will
>
>



JethroUK©

2006-06-14, 1:23 pm

i understand nothing is bullet proof, but i didn't realise that - thanks
very much


"Mike Lowery" <selfspam@mouse-potato.com> wrote in message
news:#8OwcRzjGHA.4504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> By default, WMP does not cache or allow the user to save streamed content.
> Downloaded content is another story.
>
> "JethroUK©" <reply@the.board> wrote in message
> news:cXgjg.3415$s4.848@newsfe3-win.ntli.net...
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