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Jeremy A

2004-01-24, 2:06 am

I wanted to prevent my domain from being spoofed. I setup
Exchange to do a reverse DNS lookup on all inbound
traffic. However, I later found out that this doesn't
stop the email from coming in..just puts unverified in the
header portion of the email.

My question is, is there a way to block unverified email?
And are there any complications that come along with this?

Thanks
Darin Roulston [MSFT]

2004-01-24, 2:06 am

Yes there is a way to force Exchange 2000 to do reverse DNS lookups on all
inbound connections and deny them if they don't exist. The downside is many
folks out there that are trying to send you legitimate mail will be excluded
if they don't have a PTR record (which a lot still don't but should). It is
also an expensive operation in that your server has more work in resolving
every inbound connection back to a name using DNS. To do this go to the
properties of the SMTP virtual server. On the access tab click the
connections button. Click Add then click the Domain button and add a domain,
it doesn't matter what domain, just keep in mind that whatever domain you
pick will be blocked. You'll notice that you'll get a popup stating that it
will perform a reverse lookup on each connection and are you sure you want
to do it.

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Microsoft PSS

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"Jeremy A" <toast445@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:222b01c3e119$cdd97b40$a101280a@phx.gbl...
quote:

> I wanted to prevent my domain from being spoofed. I setup
> Exchange to do a reverse DNS lookup on all inbound
> traffic. However, I later found out that this doesn't
> stop the email from coming in..just puts unverified in the
> header portion of the email.
>
> My question is, is there a way to block unverified email?
> And are there any complications that come along with this?
>
> Thanks




Jeremy Alsman

2004-01-24, 2:06 am

Sounds logical. Then my followup question would be how do
you prevent spoofing, if you aren't to block these senders?

I am getting a lot of email addresses sent externally to
internal clients, however these messages have my domain
appended to the from address. Thanks a lot.


quote:

>-----Original Message-----
>Yes there is a way to force Exchange 2000 to do reverse


DNS lookups on all
quote:

>inbound connections and deny them if they don't exist.


The downside is many
quote:

>folks out there that are trying to send you legitimate


mail will be excluded
quote:

>if they don't have a PTR record (which a lot still don't


but should). It is
quote:

>also an expensive operation in that your server has more


work in resolving
quote:

>every inbound connection back to a name using DNS. To do


this go to the
quote:

>properties of the SMTP virtual server. On the access tab


click the
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>connections button. Click Add then click the Domain


button and add a domain,
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>it doesn't matter what domain, just keep in mind that


whatever domain you
quote:

>pick will be blocked. You'll notice that you'll get a


popup stating that it
quote:

>will perform a reverse lookup on each connection and are


you sure you want
quote:

>to do it.
>
>--
>Darin Roulston
>Microsoft PSS
>
>Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. This


alias is for
quote:

>newsgroup purposes only.
>
>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and


confers no rights
quote:

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Darin Roulston [MSFT]

2004-01-24, 2:06 am

In your situation is mail being sent to your Exchange 2000 server from the
outside and someone is spoofing and internal user as being the sender or are
other outside mail users reporting mail that came from you which you didn't
send? Because of the anonymous connection nature of SMTP mail it is very
easy to spoof a sender. It's very similar in nature to snail mail, you can
send a letter to anyone and say it's from anyone since it's anonymous and
therefore hard to combat. However in the first situation I described where
mail is sent from the outside to an internal user and the sender spoofs an
internal person as sending the mail there is a defence in Exchange 2000.
There is regkey you can set on your bridgehead SMTP servers that will cause
mail that comes from the outside to have the From address displayed in SMTP
format (i.e. user@domain.com) even if the sender is internal to your
organization. Internal mail will have the From address as the display name.
This will let your users know which mail came from the Internet and which
mail came from internal users. See
http://support.microsoft.com/defaul...KB;EN-US;288635 for more
information on this. Is this your situation, if not please rephrase.

Thanks,
Darin

--
Darin Roulston
Microsoft PSS

Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. This alias is for
newsgroup purposes only.

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
"Jeremy Alsman" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Sounds logical. Then my followup question would be how do
> you prevent spoofing, if you aren't to block these senders?
>
> I am getting a lot of email addresses sent externally to
> internal clients, however these messages have my domain
> appended to the from address. Thanks a lot.
>
>
>
> DNS lookups on all
> The downside is many
> mail will be excluded
> but should). It is
> work in resolving
> this go to the
> click the
> button and add a domain,
> whatever domain you
> popup stating that it
> you sure you want
> alias is for
> confers no rights
> setup
> the
> email?
> this?


2004-01-24, 2:06 am

The first one is my situation..I'll look at the
article..Thanks a lot.


quote:

>-----Original Message-----
>In your situation is mail being sent to your Exchange


2000 server from the
quote:

>outside and someone is spoofing and internal user as


being the sender or are
quote:

>other outside mail users reporting mail that came from


you which you didn't
quote:

>send? Because of the anonymous connection nature of SMTP


mail it is very
quote:

>easy to spoof a sender. It's very similar in nature to


snail mail, you can
quote:

>send a letter to anyone and say it's from anyone since


it's anonymous and
quote:

>therefore hard to combat. However in the first situation


I described where
quote:

>mail is sent from the outside to an internal user and the


sender spoofs an
quote:

>internal person as sending the mail there is a defence in


Exchange 2000.
quote:

>There is regkey you can set on your bridgehead SMTP


servers that will cause
quote:

>mail that comes from the outside to have the From address


displayed in SMTP
quote:

>format (i.e. user@domain.com) even if the sender is


internal to your
quote:

>organization. Internal mail will have the From address as


the display name.
quote:

>This will let your users know which mail came from the


Internet and which
quote:

>mail came from internal users. See
>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-


US;288635 for more
quote:

>information on this. Is this your situation, if not


please rephrase.
quote:

>
>Thanks,
>Darin
>
>--
>Darin Roulston
>Microsoft PSS
>
>Please do not send e-mail directly to this alias. This


alias is for
quote:

>newsgroup purposes only.
>
>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and


confers no rights
quote:

>"Jeremy Alsman" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com>


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Jeremy Alsman

2004-01-28, 5:38 am

I tried doing this. When I open the message it displays
the smtp address of the sender.. Is there anyways to get
this to show up right in outlook, withouth having to open
the message?
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>
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