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David Thielen

2006-02-27, 5:53 pm

Hi;

Every 3 or 4 days suddenly all mail gets stuck in the queue. It
appears to be just mail to our domain.

bouncing IIS does not fix it. But if I reboot the server, the mail all
gets sent.

Any ideas?

thanks - dave

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Christopher Reed

2006-02-27, 8:48 pm

If you're using W2K, then the problem is that the SMTP server will hang and
push the CPU utilization to 100%. This is usually caused by at least one of
emails going to an incorrect domain. The best way to resolve this is to
upgrade to W2K3.
--
Christopher A. Reed
"The oxen are slow, but the earth is patient."

"David Thielen" <david@windward.net> wrote in message
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> Hi;
>
> Every 3 or 4 days suddenly all mail gets stuck in the queue. It
> appears to be just mail to our domain.
>
> bouncing IIS does not fix it. But if I reboot the server, the mail all
> gets sent.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> thanks - dave
>
> david@at-at-at@windward.dot.dot.net
> Windward Reports -- http://www.WindwardReports.com
> me -- http://dave.thielen.com



David Thielen

2006-02-28, 7:51 am

Nope - Windows 2003 and all the latest service packs.

Anything else?

thanks - dave

On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 20:10:19 -0600, "Christopher Reed"
<carttu@nospam.nospam> wrote:

>If you're using W2K, then the problem is that the SMTP server will hang and
>push the CPU utilization to 100%. This is usually caused by at least one of
>emails going to an incorrect domain. The best way to resolve this is to
>upgrade to W2K3.



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Sanford Whiteman

2006-02-28, 7:51 am

>Every 3 or 4 days suddenly all mail gets stuck in the queue. It
>appears to be just mail to our domain.
>
>bouncing IIS does not fix it. But if I reboot the server, the mail all
>gets sent.


Do you have any on-access virus scanners running on the machine, or
any other monitoring running at the filesystem level?

If you try to save changes to a message file when it's stuck in the
queue, does the system report that the file is locked, or does it
commit the change?

Have you ensured that your disk is defragged? Mail queues can become
heavily fragmented over time, if the overall disk space allocation is
small.

--Sandy
David Thielen

2006-03-01, 5:54 pm

On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 00:47:28 -0500, Sanford Whiteman
<sandy@cypressintegrated.com> wrote:

>
>Do you have any on-access virus scanners running on the machine, or
>any other monitoring running at the filesystem level?


Nope - bare bones web server - just built.


>If you try to save changes to a message file when it's stuck in the
>queue, does the system report that the file is locked, or does it
>commit the change?


I did not try that. But when I stopped and restarted the SMTP server
the time/date stamp on all the files changed to when I did that.


>Have you ensured that your disk is defragged? Mail queues can become
>heavily fragmented over time, if the overall disk space allocation is
>small.


System is not heavily fragmented.

??? - thanks - dave

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Simon Papworth

2006-03-07, 7:49 am

David,

I have just got the same problem on a production system, did you find a fix?
did you say that you have w2k3 sp1 installed? we don't

It started off being once every 3 weeks approx. Now it is all the time - 10
seconds or so after the reboot, infact it may be that the messages are going
piror to the reboot?

As far as I can see in network monitor the error is no msg 250 reply to the
outgoing BDAT sent from the IIS server. I have found one other thread on
google for this, but no fix yet

Any reply would be helpful

Simon Papworth
"David Thielen" wrote:

> On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 00:47:28 -0500, Sanford Whiteman
> <sandy@cypressintegrated.com> wrote:
>
>
> Nope - bare bones web server - just built.
>
>
>
> I did not try that. But when I stopped and restarted the SMTP server
> the time/date stamp on all the files changed to when I did that.
>
>
>
> System is not heavily fragmented.
>
> ??? - thanks - dave
>
> david@at-at-at@windward.dot.dot.net
> Windward Reports -- http://www.WindwardReports.com
> me -- http://dave.thielen.com
>

David Thielen

2006-03-07, 5:54 pm

Fixed but no idea why - it's just working now.

sorry

On Tue, 7 Mar 2006 03:41:20 -0800, Simon Papworth
<SimonPapworth@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
>David,
>
>I have just got the same problem on a production system, did you find a fix?
>did you say that you have w2k3 sp1 installed? we don't
>
>It started off being once every 3 weeks approx. Now it is all the time - 10
>seconds or so after the reboot, infact it may be that the messages are going
>piror to the reboot?
>
>As far as I can see in network monitor the error is no msg 250 reply to the
>outgoing BDAT sent from the IIS server. I have found one other thread on
>google for this, but no fix yet
>
>Any reply would be helpful
>
>Simon Papworth
>"David Thielen" wrote:
>


david@at-at-at@windward.dot.dot.net
Windward Reports -- http://www.WindwardReports.com
me -- http://dave.thielen.com
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