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POP3 Mail delivered but not able to collect
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| Hi
On a win 2003 server I have smtp set up and working and have created
pop3 mailboxes for a domain.
Mail is being delivered fine, it is in the default drop folder.
However when I try to collect it with outlook or similar the mail
isn't picked up.
Any ideas would be appreciated. I know it's something I'm missing.
cheers
Steve
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| PeterD 2006-06-27, 2:57 pm |
| On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 14:53:46 +0100, Steve <nospam@here.com> wrote:
>Hi
>
>On a win 2003 server I have smtp set up and working and have created
>pop3 mailboxes for a domain.
>
>Mail is being delivered fine, it is in the default drop folder.
>However when I try to collect it with outlook or similar the mail
>isn't picked up.
>
>Any ideas would be appreciated. I know it's something I'm missing.
>
>cheers
>
>Steve
Is the mail being put in the mailbox folders OK? (those are the
folders mailbox\domain\p3_??????.mbx) where domain is your mail domain
name, and ?????? is the user mailbox name).
If it is only getting as far as the SMTP drop folder, then POP3 is not
processing the mail correctly.
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| Jeff Cochran 2006-06-27, 3:37 pm |
| On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 14:53:46 +0100, Steve <nospam@here.com> wrote:
>On a win 2003 server I have smtp set up and working and have created
>pop3 mailboxes for a domain.
>
>Mail is being delivered fine, it is in the default drop folder.
>However when I try to collect it with outlook or similar the mail
>isn't picked up.
>
>Any ideas would be appreciated. I know it's something I'm missing.
Logfile entries? Errors? "Not being picked up" could mean a lot of
things, starting with you haven't configured Outlook correctly.
Jeff
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| Hi Peter
Thanks for your help, the mail is not being put in the mailbox
folders. Its only getting to the smtp drop folder. I've looked more
closely at POP3 but can't see anything.
The eventlog shows everything has started as expected and is running
normally.
If you have any pointers I'd welcome them.
Many Thanks
Steve
On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 15:57:01 -0400, PeterD <peter2@hipson.net> wrote:
>On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 14:53:46 +0100, Steve <nospam@here.com> wrote:
>
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>Is the mail being put in the mailbox folders OK? (those are the
>folders mailbox\domain\p3_??????.mbx) where domain is your mail domain
>name, and ?????? is the user mailbox name).
>
>If it is only getting as far as the SMTP drop folder, then POP3 is not
>processing the mail correctly.
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| Hi Jeff
Just FYI, there are no errors reported either on the server or from
outlook, which is configured correctly, outlook just isn't able to see
the mail on the server (probably because it's not getting to the
target mailbox and the problem is possibly with POP3 as Peter
suggested) but logs don't show any problems.
"Not being picked up" means exactly that, no errors are showing and
there is no entries in the logfiles that indicate a problem. I had
checked before I posted my question.
If you have any more helpful hints please feel free to hurl them my
way.
cheers
Steve
On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 20:37:16 GMT, jeff.nospam@zina.com (Jeff Cochran)
wrote:
>On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 14:53:46 +0100, Steve <nospam@here.com> wrote:
>
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>Logfile entries? Errors? "Not being picked up" could mean a lot of
>things, starting with you haven't configured Outlook correctly.
>
>Jeff
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| PeterD 2006-06-27, 7:19 pm |
| On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 14:53:46 +0100, Steve <nospam@here.com> wrote:
>Hi
>
>On a win 2003 server I have smtp set up and working and have created
>pop3 mailboxes for a domain.
>
>Mail is being delivered fine, it is in the default drop folder.
>However when I try to collect it with outlook or similar the mail
>isn't picked up.
>
>Any ideas would be appreciated. I know it's something I'm missing.
>
>cheers
>
>Steve
Is the mail being put in the mailbox folders OK? (those are the
folders mailbox\domain\p3_??????.mbx) where domain is your mail domain
name, and ?????? is the user mailbox name).
If it is only getting as far as the SMTP drop folder, then POP3 is not
processing the mail correctly.
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| Jeff Cochran 2006-06-27, 7:19 pm |
| On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 14:53:46 +0100, Steve <nospam@here.com> wrote:
>On a win 2003 server I have smtp set up and working and have created
>pop3 mailboxes for a domain.
>
>Mail is being delivered fine, it is in the default drop folder.
>However when I try to collect it with outlook or similar the mail
>isn't picked up.
>
>Any ideas would be appreciated. I know it's something I'm missing.
Logfile entries? Errors? "Not being picked up" could mean a lot of
things, starting with you haven't configured Outlook correctly.
Jeff
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| Hi Peter
Thanks for your help, the mail is not being put in the mailbox
folders. Its only getting to the smtp drop folder. I've looked more
closely at POP3 but can't see anything.
The eventlog shows everything has started as expected and is running
normally.
If you have any pointers I'd welcome them.
Many Thanks
Steve
On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 15:57:01 -0400, PeterD <peter2@hipson.net> wrote:
>On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 14:53:46 +0100, Steve <nospam@here.com> wrote:
>
>
>Is the mail being put in the mailbox folders OK? (those are the
>folders mailbox\domain\p3_??????.mbx) where domain is your mail domain
>name, and ?????? is the user mailbox name).
>
>If it is only getting as far as the SMTP drop folder, then POP3 is not
>processing the mail correctly.
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| Hi Jeff
Just FYI, there are no errors reported either on the server or from
outlook, which is configured correctly, outlook just isn't able to see
the mail on the server (probably because it's not getting to the
target mailbox and the problem is possibly with POP3 as Peter
suggested) but logs don't show any problems.
"Not being picked up" means exactly that, no errors are showing and
there is no entries in the logfiles that indicate a problem. I had
checked before I posted my question.
If you have any more helpful hints please feel free to hurl them my
way.
cheers
Steve
On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 20:37:16 GMT, jeff.nospam@zina.com (Jeff Cochran)
wrote:
>On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 14:53:46 +0100, Steve <nospam@here.com> wrote:
>
>
>Logfile entries? Errors? "Not being picked up" could mean a lot of
>things, starting with you haven't configured Outlook correctly.
>
>Jeff
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| PeterD 2006-06-28, 7:35 am |
| On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 01:11:32 +0100, Steve <nospam@here.com> wrote:
>Hi Peter
>
>Thanks for your help, the mail is not being put in the mailbox
>folders. Its only getting to the smtp drop folder. I've looked more
>closely at POP3 but can't see anything.
>
>The eventlog shows everything has started as expected and is running
>normally.
>
>If you have any pointers I'd welcome them.
>
>
First, outlook (and all email clients) only gets mail that is in the
mailbox, not in the drop folder. Forget the email client for now.
If pop3 is not distributing mail to the mailbox folders, it is not
working. Sadly Pop3 from MSFT is a really poor implementation, it does
not log anything significant, logs to the *wrong* (IMHO) place (event
log, when the IIS system has seperate log files). POP3 logging is
worthless.
Did you try to move your mail store? Did you try to move the mail
boxes?
One thing I can suggest, is that you remove both SMTP and POP3. Then
(re)add them using server roles. Be sure to select the right
authentication model (local users, vs. AD). The process also prompts
for the (first) domain, so provide it.
Once re-installed add any secondary domains as needed.
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| PeterD 2006-06-28, 1:26 pm |
| On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 01:11:32 +0100, Steve <nospam@here.com> wrote:
>Hi Peter
>
>Thanks for your help, the mail is not being put in the mailbox
>folders. Its only getting to the smtp drop folder. I've looked more
>closely at POP3 but can't see anything.
>
>The eventlog shows everything has started as expected and is running
>normally.
>
>If you have any pointers I'd welcome them.
>
>
First, outlook (and all email clients) only gets mail that is in the
mailbox, not in the drop folder. Forget the email client for now.
If pop3 is not distributing mail to the mailbox folders, it is not
working. Sadly Pop3 from MSFT is a really poor implementation, it does
not log anything significant, logs to the *wrong* (IMHO) place (event
log, when the IIS system has seperate log files). POP3 logging is
worthless.
Did you try to move your mail store? Did you try to move the mail
boxes?
One thing I can suggest, is that you remove both SMTP and POP3. Then
(re)add them using server roles. Be sure to select the right
authentication model (local users, vs. AD). The process also prompts
for the (first) domain, so provide it.
Once re-installed add any secondary domains as needed.
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| Steve 2006-06-30, 11:39 am |
| On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 08:35:18 -0400, PeterD <peter2@hipson.net> wrote:
>On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 01:11:32 +0100, Steve <nospam@here.com> wrote:
>
>
>First, outlook (and all email clients) only gets mail that is in the
>mailbox, not in the drop folder. Forget the email client for now.
>
>If pop3 is not distributing mail to the mailbox folders, it is not
>working. Sadly Pop3 from MSFT is a really poor implementation, it does
>not log anything significant, logs to the *wrong* (IMHO) place (event
>log, when the IIS system has seperate log files). POP3 logging is
>worthless.
>
>Did you try to move your mail store? Did you try to move the mail
>boxes?
>
>One thing I can suggest, is that you remove both SMTP and POP3. Then
>(re)add them using server roles. Be sure to select the right
>authentication model (local users, vs. AD). The process also prompts
>for the (first) domain, so provide it.
>
>Once re-installed add any secondary domains as needed.
Hi Peter
Thanks again for your help.
I haven't tried to move the store or mailboxes, just used defaults for
everything as I remember. I'm going to try removing/add both services,
I had of course been trying to avoid this 
My hosting company have recommended a couple of free and commercial
mail solutions so I'll have a look into those for the future. Do you
have any recommendations?
Many thanks
Steve
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| On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 08:35:18 -0400, PeterD <peter2@hipson.net> wrote:
>On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 01:11:32 +0100, Steve <nospam@here.com> wrote:
>
>
>First, outlook (and all email clients) only gets mail that is in the
>mailbox, not in the drop folder. Forget the email client for now.
>
>If pop3 is not distributing mail to the mailbox folders, it is not
>working. Sadly Pop3 from MSFT is a really poor implementation, it does
>not log anything significant, logs to the *wrong* (IMHO) place (event
>log, when the IIS system has seperate log files). POP3 logging is
>worthless.
>
>Did you try to move your mail store? Did you try to move the mail
>boxes?
>
>One thing I can suggest, is that you remove both SMTP and POP3. Then
>(re)add them using server roles. Be sure to select the right
>authentication model (local users, vs. AD). The process also prompts
>for the (first) domain, so provide it.
>
>Once re-installed add any secondary domains as needed.
Hi Peter
Thanks again for your help.
I haven't tried to move the store or mailboxes, just used defaults for
everything as I remember. I'm going to try removing/add both services,
I had of course been trying to avoid this
My hosting company have recommended a couple of free and commercial
mail solutions so I'll have a look into those for the future. Do you
have any recommendations?
Many thanks
Steve
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| Jeff Cochran 2006-07-05, 9:22 pm |
| On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:39:27 +0100, Steve <nospam@here.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 08:35:18 -0400, PeterD <peter2@hipson.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>Hi Peter
>
>Thanks again for your help.
>
>I haven't tried to move the store or mailboxes, just used defaults for
>everything as I remember. I'm going to try removing/add both services,
>I had of course been trying to avoid this
>
>My hosting company have recommended a couple of free and commercial
>mail solutions so I'll have a look into those for the future. Do you
>have any recommendations?
iMail is popular and I've used it for a decade or so. Same for
Mercury Mail, though it's free.
Jeff
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| Steve 2006-07-06, 10:06 am |
| On Thu, 06 Jul 2006 02:22:45 GMT, jeff.nospam@zina.com (Jeff Cochran)
wrote:
>On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:39:27 +0100, Steve <nospam@here.com> wrote:
>
>
>iMail is popular and I've used it for a decade or so. Same for
>Mercury Mail, though it's free.
>
>Jeff
Thanks Jeff, I'll look into both of those.
I've been colecting mail by hand from the smtp drop folder whilst I've
been trying to sort this out and I'd forgotten how much spam is
around. I've hardly seen any for ages and suddenly, without any
filtering, I've hundreds of useless messages to go through, all for
random.name@mydomain.com. I seem to remember reading that it is
possible to restrict mail that isn't to specific accounts so I'm off
in search of info regarding this.
Anyway thanks again for your help..
Steve
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