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| Matthew Sullivan 2004-02-22, 6:34 pm |
| A little off topic [possibly more appropriate in news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
I think], but couldn't an authority get involved with Moris with respect to
the DMCA?
Doesn't the DMCA provide for people deliberately circumventing security
devices (not just copyright materials)?
Specifically, I have a filter on my news server to stop his posts here, that
is a security device of sorts (it stops his authorised use of my server and
the resources that uses)... By his deliberate and continual morphing he is
knowingly circumventing that said security device... So that surely is a
breach the DMCA?
....and yes I know the DMCA is meant to apply to copyrighted materials, but I
seem to recall that it was so broad it could be applied to just about
anything...? (could be way off the mark, I don't know the DMCA nor pretend
to know it)
... Just a thought ..
/ Mat
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| Andrew - Supernews 2004-02-22, 8:34 pm |
| On 2004-02-23, Matthew Sullivan <usenet@sorbs.net> wrote:
> A little off topic [possibly more appropriate in news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
> I think], but couldn't an authority get involved with Moris with respect to
> the DMCA?
You're not in the US and neither is Moris. What makes you think that the
DMCA is relevent?
> Doesn't the DMCA provide for people deliberately circumventing security
> devices (not just copyright materials)?
No.
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| JerryMouse 2004-02-23, 12:34 am |
| Andrew - Supernews wrote:
> On 2004-02-23, Matthew Sullivan <usenet@sorbs.net> wrote:
>
> You're not in the US and neither is Moris. What makes you think that
> the
> DMCA is relevent?
>
>
> No.
Yes it does. Famous case of a toner-cartridge re-filler who
reverse-engineered the chip placed on Lexmark cartridges. Lexmark PUT the
chip on the cartridge to prevent re-filling (the chip has to be there for
the printer to work). Injunction under DMCA issued. Case is pending.
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| phobos 2004-02-23, 2:35 am |
| Andrew - Supernews <andrew+nonews@supernews.com> wrote in message news:<slrnc3jiju.1col.andrew+nonews@trinity.supernews.net>...
> On 2004-02-23, Matthew Sullivan <usenet@sorbs.net> wrote:
>
> You're not in the US and neither is Moris. What makes you think that the
> DMCA is relevent?
Moris might one day visit the US. It would be nice to have him share Dmitri's fate.
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| phobos2@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> Moris might one day visit the US. It would be nice to have him share
> Dmitri's fate.
I think you are mixing me up with the retards behind spews, phobos2!
You are also conveniently missing the criminal that has started this
thread: Matthew Sullivan.
Your pure bias points to your complete insanity.
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| Morely 'spam is theft' Dotes 2004-02-23, 8:35 am |
| Andrew - Supernews <andrew+nonews@supernews.com> wrote in
news:slrnc3jiju.1col.andrew+nonews@trinity.supernews.net:
> You're not in the US and neither is Moris. What makes you think that the
> DMCA is relevent?
WMDs weren't in Baghdad, either. The US government don't let littel things
like inconvenient facts bother them.
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| Doktor DynaSoar 2004-02-23, 10:34 am |
| On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 17:14:18 +1000, Matthew Sullivan
<usenet@sorbs.net> wrote:
} A little off topic [possibly more appropriate in news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
} I think], but couldn't an authority get involved with Moris with respect to
} the DMCA?
}
} Doesn't the DMCA provide for people deliberately circumventing security
} devices (not just copyright materials)?
Yes.
} Specifically, I have a filter on my news server to stop his posts here, that
} is a security device of sorts (it stops his authorised use of my server and
} the resources that uses)... By his deliberate and continual morphing he is
} knowingly circumventing that said security device... So that surely is a
} breach the DMCA?
}
} ...and yes I know the DMCA is meant to apply to copyrighted materials, but I
} seem to recall that it was so broad it could be applied to just about
} anything...? (could be way off the mark, I don't know the DMCA nor pretend
} to know it)
It's so broad that playing a copy protected CD in a standard home CD
player violates it. So does the previous sentence. This is true even
if the copy protected CD contains public domain material.
Technologically, it is the single most broken piece of legislation
ever passed.
Technically, you're correct. Now all you have to do is shown thousands
of dollars in damages so that a federal attorney will take the case.
Now, a large ISP, fighting off the Bayesian Busters, they might could
take this course.
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| Moris 2004-02-23, 12:34 pm |
| Doktor DynaSoar wrote:
> Technically, you're correct. Now all you have to do is shown thousands
> of dollars in damages so that a federal attorney will take the case.
> Now, a large ISP, fighting off the Bayesian Busters, they might could
> take this course.
ROTFL...!
This newsgroup has become home to total maniacs and madcap spews puppets.
It's no wonder that the number of posts are reducing by each passing day.
Who would want to read, let alone contribute to playground stuff like this
thread? No-one.
Monday - Dec. 8 2003 - Total posts: 692
Monday - Feb. 23 2004 - Total posts: 300
A reduction of 57% in 2 and a half months!
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| Buss Error 2004-02-23, 12:34 pm |
| Matthew Sullivan <usenet@sorbs.net> wrote in
news:c1c97o$evb$1@nemesis.sorbs.net:
> A little off topic [possibly more appropriate in
> news.admin.net-abuse.usenet I think], but couldn't an authority get
> involved with Moris with respect to the DMCA?
Best to just plonk him and have done. Moris isn't interested in debating
the issue, he just wants to expound his own viewpoint and insult anyone
that doesn't agree.
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| SPAMJAMR 2004-02-23, 3:34 pm |
| In article <c1c97o$evb$1@nemesis.sorbs.net>, Matthew Sullivan says...
>
>A little off topic [possibly more appropriate in news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
>I think], but couldn't an authority get involved with Moris with respect to
>the DMCA?
>
Sheesh man. That piece of shit isn't worth the thought it took to come up with
that.
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| Inigo Montoya 2004-02-23, 5:34 pm |
| JerryMouse wrote:
>Yes it does. Famous case of a toner-cartridge re-filler who
>reverse-engineered the chip placed on Lexmark cartridges. Lexmark PUT the
>chip on the cartridge to prevent re-filling (the chip has to be there for
>the printer to work). Injunction under DMCA issued. Case is pending.
I'm not a lawyer, but remember that anyone can file a suit (or suite)
against anyone for almost anything. Having it decided in your favor, and
more importantly making sure you don't piss off a judge, is a separate
matter.
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| Chris Uren 2004-02-23, 7:34 pm |
| On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 18:02:52 -0500, Doktor DynaSoar
<targeting@OMCL.mil> wrote:
>} ...and yes I know the DMCA is meant to apply to copyrighted materials, but I
>} seem to recall that it was so broad it could be applied to just about
>} anything...? (could be way off the mark, I don't know the DMCA nor pretend
>} to know it)
>
>It's so broad that playing a copy protected CD in a standard home CD
>player violates it. So does the previous sentence. This is true even
>if the copy protected CD contains public domain material.
>Technologically, it is the single most broken piece of legislation
>ever passed.
Having such a broad application allows the land sharks to earn more
dosh as they seek tenuous legal precedent on a case by case basis.
They lobbied for it to be thus.
Clear cut law's don't permit drawn out legal arguments, bad for
business.
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| Moris 2004-02-23, 11:34 pm |
| SPAMJAMR uttered:
> Sheesh man. That piece of shit isn't worth the thought it took to come
> up with that.
[Spamjam, the famous spews scum, newsgroup abuser and conman rises from his
ashes.]
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| Brian Bruns 2004-02-24, 12:35 am |
| [posted and mailed]
Moris <pritanda@NOCAPSyahoo.co.uk> wrote in news:Xns9498B1BDC3B1Csdi98@
194.117.133.134:
> I think you are mixing me up with the retards behind spews, phobos2!
>
> You are also conveniently missing the criminal that has started this
> thread: Matthew Sullivan.
>
> Your pure bias points to your complete insanity.
I think Moronis blew a gasket again.
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| Jeff C 2004-02-24, 12:35 am |
| On 24 Feb 2004 13:12:28 GMT, Brian Bruns <bruns@2mbit.com> wrote:
>I think Moronis blew a gasket again.
As long as the gasket consented, it's not a problem.
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| Joe Cipale 2004-02-24, 3:35 am |
| Jeff C wrote:
>
> On 24 Feb 2004 13:12:28 GMT, Brian Bruns <bruns@2mbit.com> wrote:
>
>
> As long as the gasket consented, it's not a problem.
But.. did the gasket feel cheap and dirty the next morning? That is the
$64K question.
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| Joe Cipale 2004-02-24, 3:35 am |
| Buss Error wrote:
>
> Best to just plonk him and have done. Moris isn't interested in debating
> the issue, he just wants to expound his own viewpoint and insult anyone
> that doesn't agree.
>
> --
Is that what they are calling his keyboard masturbations these days?
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| Joe Cipale <joec@aracnet.com> wrote:
> Is that what they are calling his keyboard masturbations these days?
[Joejoe (aka joe cipale), one of the most insane spews puppets ever (has he
not said once that he satisfied his urges with donkeys and his nieces?)
keeps on masturbating as usual...]
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| Joe Cipale <joec@aracnet.com> wrote:
> But.. did the gasket feel cheap and dirty the next morning? That is the
> $64K question.
Further masturbation from joejoe, the spews pervert.
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| Brian Bruns wrote:
> I think Moronis blew a gasket again.
[Brian, the anti-spam crook, returns...]
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[More info about spews and its puppets: http://tinyurl.com/2hs5s.]
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| Brian Bruns 2004-02-24, 4:35 am |
| Moris <pritanda@NOCAPSyahoo.co.uk> wrote in news:Xns9499B06E25560sdi98@
194.117.133.134:
> [Brian, the anti-spam crook, returns...]
>
I never left, you dolt.
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http://www.ahbl.org
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| Brian Bruns wrote:
>
> I never left, you dolt.
[The anti-spam crook gets dirty...]
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| Joe Cipale 2004-02-24, 5:35 am |
| Moris wrote:
>
>
> -----
> [More info about spews and its puppets: http://tinyurl.com/2hs5s.]
~yawn~
next...
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| Irony Alert 2004-02-25, 9:43 am |
| "Matthew Sullivan" <usenet@sorbs.net> wrote in message
news:c1c97o$evb$1@nemesis.sorbs.net...
> A little off topic [possibly more appropriate in
news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
> I think], but couldn't an authority get involved with Moris with respect
to
> the DMCA?
>
> Doesn't the DMCA provide for people deliberately circumventing security
> devices (not just copyright materials)?
>
> Specifically, I have a filter on my news server to stop his posts here,
that
> is a security device of sorts (it stops his authorised use of my server
and
> the resources that uses)... By his deliberate and continual morphing he is
> knowingly circumventing that said security device... So that surely is a
> breach the DMCA?
>
> ...and yes I know the DMCA is meant to apply to copyrighted materials, but
I
> seem to recall that it was so broad it could be applied to just about
> anything...? (could be way off the mark, I don't know the DMCA nor pretend
> to know it)
>
> .. Just a thought ..
Instead of killfiling by email, killfile by static values in the headers of
his posts.
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| Rascle 2004-02-26, 10:34 pm |
| On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 17:14:18 +1000, Matthew Sullivan <usenet@sorbs.net> wrote:
> the resources that uses)... By his deliberate and continual morphing he is
> knowingly circumventing that said security device... So that surely is a
> breach the DMCA?
Did it morph? Must have missed it. It is my guess that your security device
is not good enough. I have not seen a single post by the troll in around 3
months(blocked by rules on my newsservers themselves) and haven't seen a
followup to its posts in slightly over a month(blocked at the client level).
l8r
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| John Oliver 2004-02-27, 4:35 pm |
| On 26 Feb 2004 22:34:39 -0500, Rascle wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 17:14:18 +1000, Matthew Sullivan <usenet@sorbs.net> wrote:
>
>
> Did it morph? Must have missed it. It is my guess that your security device
> is not good enough. I have not seen a single post by the troll in around 3
> months(blocked by rules on my newsservers themselves) and haven't seen a
> followup to its posts in slightly over a month(blocked at the client level).
Same here. All I see is threads like this by people who keep letting
themselves be baited...
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| Cadbury Moose 2004-02-27, 5:35 pm |
| John Oliver wrote:
>
> On 26 Feb 2004 22:34:39 -0500, Rascle wrote:
>
> Same here. All I see is threads like this by people who keep
> letting themselves be baited...
Well, you do have to admit that Moris is a Master Baiter.
3:O)>
Cadbury Moose. (He's blocked here, by several filtering methods.)
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| Rascle 2004-02-27, 10:34 pm |
| On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 21:49:10 +0000, Cadbury Moose <please@do.not.spam.the.moose> wrote:
> Well, you do have to admit that Moris is a Master Baiter.
Please, we(tinw) all know that Moronis would fail at that to.
l8r
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| Rascle 2004-02-27, 10:34 pm |
| On 27 Feb 2004 15:29:35 -0600, John Oliver <joliver@john-oliver.net> wrote:
> Same here. All I see is threads like this by people who keep letting
> themselves be baited...
Think maybe I need to add additional filters to eliminate even more Moronis
garbage. I have a nasty habit of responding to posts that manage to make
it through the filters. My current filters nuke *ALL* of his direct posts
and apparently his morphs since I've seen claims that he does but have yet
to see a post and appear to nuke all followups to his posts through multiple
levels. I just need to make a little refinement so that they also nuke
threads even mentioning Moronis. Then I will not be tempted to respond.
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