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Angel

2004-02-04, 10:39 am

Hello all,
I'm considering migrating from SS3 to Commerce 2002. The migration overview
says it can be done but my question is, where is the SS3 data store located?
Is it one proprietary text file that can be migrated to a SQL database or
what? Are the html/asp pages in Commerce 2002 dynamic or do the SS3 asp/html
pages have to be migrated as well as the data? Any help anyone who's done
this can provide will be helpful. Thanks in advance.


WenJun Zhang[msft]

2004-02-04, 10:39 am

Hi Angel,

Site server has its own LDAP service, the data is stored in either
SQL db or Access mdb files, which can be migrated to the SQL2K used
by Commerce 2002(users' data also can be migrated to Active
Directory). Commerce 2002 has its new components, all the pages
html/asp in SS3 will no longer be used. If you have coustom pages on
SS3, generally most of them need to be redeveloped.

Here is the migration white paper which prbably you've reviewed:
Migrating from Site Server to Commerce Server 2002
http://www.microsoft.com/commercese...ment/2002/wp_ss
cemigration.asp

The following is a process summary about migrating Site Server 3.0
CE(Commerce Edition) to Commerce 2002.
"
Migration ProfileBuilder Tool

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...ary/en-us/csvr2
002/htm/cs_gs_membershipmigr_ggdh.asp

Use the Migration ProfileBuilder tool to map attributes from the
Microsoft Site Server 3.0 Membership Directory to the Commerce Server
Profile data store.

When you run the Directory Migration tool, it reads an Extensible
Markup Language (XML) file that maps the user attributes from the
Membership Directory to the Profiles data store(s).

The Migration ProfileBuilder tool performs the following tasks:

Reads user attributes from the Membership Directory schema
Reads user attributes from the User Profile Object schema
Creates the XML configuration file read by the Directory Migration
Tool


Starting the Migration Process

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...ary/en-us/csvr2
002/htm/cs_gs_membershipmigr_ggdh.asp


To begin the migration process, deploy the migration objects to the
servers that will be running the migration process. Follow these
steps:

Extend the attributes for members by creating a Migration attribute
in the Membership Directory.
Create at least one migration profile using the Migration
ProfileBuilder tool. You will need to create one for each type of
migration in your plan (batch and on-demand combined).
To deploy the objects you will need to copy the completed migration
objects to each server and register the objects. For more
information, see Register Migration
Objects.
You will also need to make sure that the registry keys are set
appropriately. For more information, see the Requirements section of
MigrationLogObj Object.
If you plan on migrating users with on-demand migration as they log
into your new site, you will want to install the migration objects on
the Web servers and use the
Login.asp file found in the <drive>:\Program Files\Microsoft Commerce
Server\SDK\Tools\SSCE Migration\Membership\Client directory. Use this
file as a sample of how to trigger a migration when a user first
visits your new Commerce Server site.

If you want to migrate all of your users together, install the
migration objects on the server from which you will migrate all of
the users. For best performance, choose a computer that is dedicated
to the migration process. When you build the profile for migrating a
range of users using the Migration ProfileBuilder tool, establish a
filter depth, a search scope, and a search filter base, by using the
dialog box in step 3. Experimenting with different values before
beginning the actual migration process allows you to optimize
migration performance. Note that the distribution patterns of user
account names in the Membership Directory play an important role in
the tuning process.

Always test the on-demand migration process before putting it into
production


----------------------------------------------------------------------

There are two uesful resources available for migrating customers from
Site Server to Commerce 2002:

1. The SDK has included tools for migrating Membership users
information for use in Commerce Server. These were shipped with
Commerce 2002.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...ary/en-us/csvr2
002/htm/cs_gs_membershipmigr_oaak.asp

2 A MS internal Toolkit - SStoCS2002MigrationKit has been released
for Microsoft Consultants to help customers migrate successfully.
The migration toolkit contains customizable scripts to help partners
and Microsoft professionals migrate 7 parts of a Site Server Commerce
Edition site.
These are: ads, departments and products, groups, users,
distribution lists, transaction data, and SSCE vocabulary. The
toolkit also contains PAG to help you
successfully migrate a SSCE site to a CS2002 site. There are
additional tools provided...
"

Due to the potential risks in the migration scenario and the Toolkit
isn't released for public downloading, the best way to perform this
type of migration is with MCS (Microsoft Consulting Services). They
have the lastest and full version toolkit which when modified will be
able to successfully complete this migration. Using the tools
included with the Commerce Server 2002 installation SDK folder are
just used to test a migration or complete a small, very basic
migration. So I believe MCS with their migration Toolkit scripts is
the best way to go for this task.

Best regards,

WenJun Zhang
Microsoft Online Support
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security

Angel

2004-02-04, 10:39 am

Thanks - finally some direction with useful information. Thanks again, will
let you know how it works out.

""WenJun Zhang[msft]"" <v-wzhang@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:ps9p0MK5DHA.4028@cpmsftngxa07.phx.gbl...
quote:

> Hi Angel,
>
> Site server has its own LDAP service, the data is stored in either
> SQL db or Access mdb files, which can be migrated to the SQL2K used
> by Commerce 2002(users' data also can be migrated to Active
> Directory). Commerce 2002 has its new components, all the pages
> html/asp in SS3 will no longer be used. If you have coustom pages on
> SS3, generally most of them need to be redeveloped.
>
> Here is the migration white paper which prbably you've reviewed:
> Migrating from Site Server to Commerce Server 2002
> http://www.microsoft.com/commercese...ment/2002/wp_ss
> cemigration.asp
>
> The following is a process summary about migrating Site Server 3.0
> CE(Commerce Edition) to Commerce 2002.
> "
> Migration ProfileBuilder Tool
>
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...ary/en-us/csvr2
> 002/htm/cs_gs_membershipmigr_ggdh.asp
>
> Use the Migration ProfileBuilder tool to map attributes from the
> Microsoft Site Server 3.0 Membership Directory to the Commerce Server
> Profile data store.
>
> When you run the Directory Migration tool, it reads an Extensible
> Markup Language (XML) file that maps the user attributes from the
> Membership Directory to the Profiles data store(s).
>
> The Migration ProfileBuilder tool performs the following tasks:
>
> Reads user attributes from the Membership Directory schema
> Reads user attributes from the User Profile Object schema
> Creates the XML configuration file read by the Directory Migration
> Tool
>
>
> Starting the Migration Process
>
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...ary/en-us/csvr2
> 002/htm/cs_gs_membershipmigr_ggdh.asp
>
>
> To begin the migration process, deploy the migration objects to the
> servers that will be running the migration process. Follow these
> steps:
>
> Extend the attributes for members by creating a Migration attribute
> in the Membership Directory.
> Create at least one migration profile using the Migration
> ProfileBuilder tool. You will need to create one for each type of
> migration in your plan (batch and on-demand combined).
> To deploy the objects you will need to copy the completed migration
> objects to each server and register the objects. For more
> information, see Register Migration
> Objects.
> You will also need to make sure that the registry keys are set
> appropriately. For more information, see the Requirements section of
> MigrationLogObj Object.
> If you plan on migrating users with on-demand migration as they log
> into your new site, you will want to install the migration objects on
> the Web servers and use the
> Login.asp file found in the <drive>:\Program Files\Microsoft Commerce
> Server\SDK\Tools\SSCE Migration\Membership\Client directory. Use this
> file as a sample of how to trigger a migration when a user first
> visits your new Commerce Server site.
>
> If you want to migrate all of your users together, install the
> migration objects on the server from which you will migrate all of
> the users. For best performance, choose a computer that is dedicated
> to the migration process. When you build the profile for migrating a
> range of users using the Migration ProfileBuilder tool, establish a
> filter depth, a search scope, and a search filter base, by using the
> dialog box in step 3. Experimenting with different values before
> beginning the actual migration process allows you to optimize
> migration performance. Note that the distribution patterns of user
> account names in the Membership Directory play an important role in
> the tuning process.
>
> Always test the on-demand migration process before putting it into
> production
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> There are two uesful resources available for migrating customers from
> Site Server to Commerce 2002:
>
> 1. The SDK has included tools for migrating Membership users
> information for use in Commerce Server. These were shipped with
> Commerce 2002.
>
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...ary/en-us/csvr2
> 002/htm/cs_gs_membershipmigr_oaak.asp
>
> 2 A MS internal Toolkit - SStoCS2002MigrationKit has been released
> for Microsoft Consultants to help customers migrate successfully.
> The migration toolkit contains customizable scripts to help partners
> and Microsoft professionals migrate 7 parts of a Site Server Commerce
> Edition site.
> These are: ads, departments and products, groups, users,
> distribution lists, transaction data, and SSCE vocabulary. The
> toolkit also contains PAG to help you
> successfully migrate a SSCE site to a CS2002 site. There are
> additional tools provided...
> "
>
> Due to the potential risks in the migration scenario and the Toolkit
> isn't released for public downloading, the best way to perform this
> type of migration is with MCS (Microsoft Consulting Services). They
> have the lastest and full version toolkit which when modified will be
> able to successfully complete this migration. Using the tools
> included with the Commerce Server 2002 installation SDK folder are
> just used to test a migration or complete a small, very basic
> migration. So I believe MCS with their migration Toolkit scripts is
> the best way to go for this task.
>
> Best regards,
>
> WenJun Zhang
> Microsoft Online Support
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.
> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
>




WenJun Zhang[msft]

2004-02-04, 10:39 am

My pleasure. :-) You are always welcome Angel!

Have a nice week,

WenJun Zhang
Microsoft Online Support
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security

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