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Eli Aran

2004-07-24, 7:54 am

I have a modem and a sound card.
both have voice capabilities.
I would like to make phone calls using some kind of dialing program and my
microphone and loud speakers .
I would also like to be able to answer incoming phone calls, talk to people
using the mic and hearing them in the speakers.
I suppose that most of the calls will be local (in my city or in my country)
but it should also be able to work with international calls.
do you know such program (hopefully free) I can use?
how do I wire or configure such a task?
NOTE: I am NOT looking for an Internet based or IP based phone connection
but a REGULAR PHONE LINE connection via the computer.
thank you for any advice!

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Carey Frisch [MVP]

2004-07-24, 5:53 pm

Sorry, your PC is not a telephone and a telephone is not a PC.

The Callserve Internet Telephone is free software that enables you
to make incredibly low cost calls from any PC to any phone Worldwide,
using the Internet. When you use the Callserve Internet Telephone to
make a call, it passes along the Internet from your PC to wherever you
are calling, and is then connected to the local telephone system.

Visit: http://www.callserve.com/Homepage.asp

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

Be Smart! Protect your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/

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"Eli Aran" <eli_yardena@hotmail.com> wrote in message:
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|I have a modem and a sound card.
| both have voice capabilities.
| I would like to make phone calls using some kind of dialing program and my
| microphone and loud speakers .
| I would also like to be able to answer incoming phone calls, talk to people
| using the mic and hearing them in the speakers.
| I suppose that most of the calls will be local (in my city or in my country)
| but it should also be able to work with international calls.
| do you know such program (hopefully free) I can use?
| how do I wire or configure such a task?
| NOTE: I am NOT looking for an Internet based or IP based phone connection
| but a REGULAR PHONE LINE connection via the computer.
| thank you for any advice!

The Unknown P

2004-07-24, 5:53 pm

This is for broadband but if you are a dial-up connection then you may have problems finding a free program.
http://www.pulver.com/fwd/
All I did was type in Free phone calls using my computer, and then clicked my go button and found tons of stuff to look at. I don't bother with this as I have a bundles package and can talk for hours and hours long distance and only pay $35 a month for th
e privelege. Good luck. }:~)
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There are three types of people in computing, those that can count and those that can't.

"Eli Aran" wrote:

> I have a modem and a sound card.
> both have voice capabilities.
> I would like to make phone calls using some kind of dialing program and my
> microphone and loud speakers .
> I would also like to be able to answer incoming phone calls, talk to people
> using the mic and hearing them in the speakers.
> I suppose that most of the calls will be local (in my city or in my country)
> but it should also be able to work with international calls.
> do you know such program (hopefully free) I can use?
> how do I wire or configure such a task?
> NOTE: I am NOT looking for an Internet based or IP based phone connection
> but a REGULAR PHONE LINE connection via the computer.
> thank you for any advice!
>
>
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Eli Aran

2004-07-26, 5:54 pm

I was not looking for internet or IP based phone calls. I wanted to use the
computer modem to talk to people with the microphone and hear them on the
speakers. I only want to use the phone line exactly like I do when I use the
modem to send or receive faxes. I think that if the computer fax program
uses the phone line via the modem then why shouldn't there be a program for
human conversation???

"The Unknown P" <( mikisiw@msn.com )> wrote in message
news:6F892BDC-9A46-4B6D-8A5F-F8C08CCB38E0@microsoft.com...
> This is for broadband but if you are a dial-up connection then you may
have problems finding a free program.
> http://www.pulver.com/fwd/
> All I did was type in Free phone calls using my computer, and then clicked
my go button and found tons of stuff to look at. I don't bother with this as
I have a bundles package and can talk for hours and hours long distance and
only pay $35 a month for the privelege. Good luck. }:~)
> --
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Maxim S. Shatskih

2004-07-26, 5:54 pm

This feature is called "speakerphone" and is supported by some voice
modems. Often, it requires additional wiring from modem to soundcard. The voice
modem itself is usually not duplex.

Search MSDN for "speakerphone".

--
Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
StorageCraft Corporation
maxim@storagecraft.com
http://www.storagecraft.com

"Eli Aran" <eli_yardena@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I was not looking for internet or IP based phone calls. I wanted to use the
> computer modem to talk to people with the microphone and hear them on the
> speakers. I only want to use the phone line exactly like I do when I use the
> modem to send or receive faxes. I think that if the computer fax program
> uses the phone line via the modem then why shouldn't there be a program for
> human conversation???
>
> "The Unknown P" <( mikisiw@msn.com )> wrote in message
> news:6F892BDC-9A46-4B6D-8A5F-F8C08CCB38E0@microsoft.com...
> have problems finding a free program.
> my go button and found tons of stuff to look at. I don't bother with this as
> I have a bundles package and can talk for hours and hours long distance and
> only pay $35 a month for the privelege. Good luck. }:~)
> those that can't.
> my
> people
> country)
> connection
>
>
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Gary G. Little

2004-07-27, 7:58 am

There used to be a product called WinFax, which had a lot phone management
stuff in it.

--
Gary G. Little
Seagate Technologies, LLC

"Maxim S. Shatskih" <maxim@storagecraft.com> wrote in message
news:egpCQz1cEHA.1048@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> This feature is called "speakerphone" and is supported by some voice
> modems. Often, it requires additional wiring from modem to soundcard. The
voice
> modem itself is usually not duplex.
>
> Search MSDN for "speakerphone".
>
> --
> Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
> StorageCraft Corporation
> maxim@storagecraft.com
> http://www.storagecraft.com
>
> "Eli Aran" <eli_yardena@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ekUNZs1cEHA.244@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
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Eli Aran

2004-07-27, 5:54 pm

Symantec WinFax Pro 10?

"Gary G. Little" <gary.g.little.nospam@seagate.com> wrote in message
news:rnsNc.6135$_h1.1136@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com...
> There used to be a product called WinFax, which had a lot phone management
> stuff in it.
>
> --
> Gary G. Little
> Seagate Technologies, LLC
>
> "Maxim S. Shatskih" <maxim@storagecraft.com> wrote in message
> news:egpCQz1cEHA.1048@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
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2004-07-27, 5:54 pm

At www.cnet.com
click on Downloads (at the very top).

In the box labeled Search, type
telephone
and click Go.

Search Result lists 168 occurrences of telephone programs for your PC,
if you choose In Downloads instead of In Windows (left of Go).

Some are freeware, some are shareware. Many are dialer/answerer type
programs. Most are Not IP-based programs.

It helps to know where to search.

"Eli Aran" <eli_yardena@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Symantec WinFax Pro 10?

"Gary G. Little" <gary.g.little.nospam@seagate.com> wrote in message
news:rnsNc.6135$_h1.1136@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com...
> There used to be a product called WinFax, which had a lot phone management
> stuff in it.
>
> --
> Gary G. Little
> Seagate Technologies, LLC
>
> "Maxim S. Shatskih" <maxim@storagecraft.com> wrote in message
> news:egpCQz1cEHA.1048@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
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2004-07-28, 2:55 am

did you ever get an answer to your earlier question about how to search for
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while excluding
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"Eli Aran" <eli_yardena@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Symantec WinFax Pro 10?

"Gary G. Little" <gary.g.little.nospam@seagate.com> wrote in message
news:rnsNc.6135$_h1.1136@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com...
> There used to be a product called WinFax, which had a lot phone management
> stuff in it.
>
> --
> Gary G. Little
> Seagate Technologies, LLC
>
> "Maxim S. Shatskih" <maxim@storagecraft.com> wrote in message
> news:egpCQz1cEHA.1048@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
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Eli Aran

2004-07-28, 2:55 am

Eli Aran

2004-07-29, 7:51 am

someone gave me the idea to search for a program called "dialer.exe" in my
WinXP o/s and to create a shortcut for it on the desktop. apparently it has
"regular phone" dialing capabilities (among other internet based connection
options) and I tried it for my cell phone which did ring...
I will soon try it with other local phone calls and see whether I can
converse with the other person using the microphone.

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <mrxp2004@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:%23aiymvYcEHA.1896@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Sorry, your PC is not a telephone and a telephone is not a PC.
>
> The Callserve Internet Telephone is free software that enables you
> to make incredibly low cost calls from any PC to any phone Worldwide,
> using the Internet. When you use the Callserve Internet Telephone to
> make a call, it passes along the Internet from your PC to wherever you
> are calling, and is then connected to the local telephone system.
>
> Visit: http://www.callserve.com/Homepage.asp
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows XP - Shell/User
>
> Be Smart! Protect your PC!
> http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>
> "Eli Aran" <eli_yardena@hotmail.com> wrote in message:
> news:Ow7ZYLWcEHA.1644@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>
> |I have a modem and a sound card.
> | both have voice capabilities.
> | I would like to make phone calls using some kind of dialing program and
my
> | microphone and loud speakers .
> | I would also like to be able to answer incoming phone calls, talk to
people
> | using the mic and hearing them in the speakers.
> | I suppose that most of the calls will be local (in my city or in my
country)
> | but it should also be able to work with international calls.
> | do you know such program (hopefully free) I can use?
> | how do I wire or configure such a task?
> | NOTE: I am NOT looking for an Internet based or IP based phone
connection
> | but a REGULAR PHONE LINE connection via the computer.
> | thank you for any advice!
>

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Gary G. Little

2004-07-29, 7:51 am

It will not use your sound card for audio. You will need to take a phone
connected to the same line off-hook and use it's handset/speaker/microphone.

--
Gary G. Little
Seagate Technologies, LLC

"Eli Aran" <eli_yardena@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:O6FLA8VdEHA.3476@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> someone gave me the idea to search for a program called "dialer.exe" in my
> WinXP o/s and to create a shortcut for it on the desktop. apparently it
has
> "regular phone" dialing capabilities (among other internet based
connection
> options) and I tried it for my cell phone which did ring...
> I will soon try it with other local phone calls and see whether I can
> converse with the other person using the microphone.
>
> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <mrxp2004@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:%23aiymvYcEHA.1896@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> my
> people
> country)
> connection
>
>
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OneMoreBite

2004-07-29, 5:51 pm

Here is a program I recently came across: http://www.skype.com

It looks promising. They say they are working on the ability for a person to call any regular phone line, although obviously the caller would be using the software to "connect."

Kathryn

Kathryn Martyn, M.NLP
http://www.OneMoreBite-Weightloss.com
Get the Daily Bites: Inspirational Mini Lessons Using EFT
and NLP for Ending the Struggle with Weight Loss

Eli Aran

2004-07-29, 5:52 pm

I understand what you are saying: I need to physically connect a phone to
the second modem socket to speak in the same line the modem dialed to. my
question is what happens if I connect the input in the sound card to the
output of the modem and the input of the modem to the output of the sound
card?
I should then be able to use the mic and the speakers of the computer for a
telephone conversation! no?

"Gary G. Little" <gary.g.little.nospam@seagate.com> wrote in message
news:gh6Oc.21685$V42.17576@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com...
> It will not use your sound card for audio. You will need to take a phone
> connected to the same line off-hook and use it's
handset/speaker/microphone.
>
> --
> Gary G. Little
> Seagate Technologies, LLC
>
> "Eli Aran" <eli_yardena@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:O6FLA8VdEHA.3476@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
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>
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>
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Eli Aran

2004-07-29, 5:52 pm

my original question states clearly that I want to use the mic and speakers
to make REGULAR phone calls using the SOUND CARD and the MODEM.
I am NOT looking for an Internet or IP based phone connection!
I want to answer the phone when it rings at home with the help of the
computer.
"OneMoreBite" <OneMoreBite@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D2C79B3E-0961-4B54-BB5F-03BD1A56DA36@microsoft.com...
> Here is a program I recently came across: http://www.skype.com
>
> It looks promising. They say they are working on the ability for a person
to call any regular phone line, although obviously the caller would be using
the software to "connect."
>
> Kathryn
>
> Kathryn Martyn, M.NLP
> http://www.OneMoreBite-Weightloss.com
> Get the Daily Bites: Inspirational Mini Lessons Using EFT
> and NLP for Ending the Struggle with Weight Loss

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OneMoreBite

2004-07-29, 5:52 pm

> my original question states clearly that I want to use the mic and speakers
> to make REGULAR phone calls using the SOUND CARD and the MODEM.
> I am NOT looking for an Internet or IP based phone connection!

Uh, okay. So you want your computer to be a huge phone? Dare I ask WHY?

Kathryn Martyn, M.NLP
http://www.OneMoreBite-Weightloss.com
Get the Daily Bites: Inspirational Mini Lessons Using EFT
and NLP for Ending the Struggle with Weight Loss

Eli Aran

2004-07-29, 5:52 pm

so that I don't have to get up and pick up the phone in the next room (the
real one) when it rings, while I am sitting in the other room and using my
computer.
I can't imagine it would be impossible to use the same modem I use in the
computer for sending and receiving faxes on the same phone line and not
being able to use the same hardware for regular telephone conversations!
I have a sound card that connects to the speakers and the microphone, and I
have a modem that connects to the phone wall socket so why couldn't there be
an option to wire up all four components and receive incoming phone calls
and using a program that displays ten numbers and a "place call" button to
start my own phone call??? why is it unconceivable to use the computer for
(conventional) telephone conversation?

"OneMoreBite" <OneMoreBite@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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speakers[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> Uh, okay. So you want your computer to be a huge phone? Dare I ask WHY?
>
> Kathryn Martyn, M.NLP
> http://www.OneMoreBite-Weightloss.com
> Get the Daily Bites: Inspirational Mini Lessons Using EFT
> and NLP for Ending the Struggle with Weight Loss

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2004-07-29, 5:52 pm

maybe so he can do 3 things at once ? hear, speak, and type ?

maybe so he can automatically dial hundreds of numbers for his business, and
speak to any human that answers, without paying extra money for autodialing
devices ?

maybe record orders for products ?

maybe play songs while callers are on hold ?

maybe record teleconferences directly to hard disk ?

maybe hang up on unwanted callers, without paying extra money for the same
service offered by the local provider ?

maybe keep records of every telephone call and minutes used ?

maybe to create multiple voice mail boxes, without paying extra money for
the same service offered by the local provider ?

maybe morph a voice to disguise it's identity ?

maybe send himself a page, when a caller leaves a message, without paying
extra money for the service ?

maybe you've found your industry niche, and have never crawled out of your
niche since then ?

maybe you've never lived in a country, that does not offer every home a
choice of DSL or cable broadband ?

maybe you were living in a cave for the 20 years prior to Voice-over-IP ?

"OneMoreBite" <OneMoreBite@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:FA53C38F-D8F4-40FC-8E3E-8BE8FD7C18E9@microsoft.com...
> my original question states clearly that I want to use the mic and
speakers
> to make REGULAR phone calls using the SOUND CARD and the MODEM.
> I am NOT looking for an Internet or IP based phone connection!

Uh, okay. So you want your computer to be a huge phone? Dare I ask WHY?

Kathryn Martyn, M.NLP
http://www.OneMoreBite-Weightloss.com
Get the Daily Bites: Inspirational Mini Lessons Using EFT
and NLP for Ending the Struggle with Weight Loss

Eli Aran

2004-07-29, 5:52 pm

I want to use the computer for answering the phone calls. the way I see it I
will stop doing whatever I did on the computer in order to focus entirely on
the conversation with the caller. I don't need an internet based phone
program to answer the POTS. why can't you understand such a simple and basic
wish??? rather than making fun of me and radicalizing me in the newsgroup -
are you intelligent enough to create such a program yourself? you could be
rich....
"JW" <JustPostYourReply@ToTheNewsGroup.pls> wrote in message
news:eWQFiYbdEHA.3988@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> maybe so he can do 3 things at once ? hear, speak, and type ?
>
> maybe so he can automatically dial hundreds of numbers for his business,
and
> speak to any human that answers, without paying extra money for
autodialing
> devices ?
>
> maybe record orders for products ?
>
> maybe play songs while callers are on hold ?
>
> maybe record teleconferences directly to hard disk ?
>
> maybe hang up on unwanted callers, without paying extra money for the same
> service offered by the local provider ?
>
> maybe keep records of every telephone call and minutes used ?
>
> maybe to create multiple voice mail boxes, without paying extra money for
> the same service offered by the local provider ?
>
> maybe morph a voice to disguise it's identity ?
>
> maybe send himself a page, when a caller leaves a message, without paying
> extra money for the service ?
>
> maybe you've found your industry niche, and have never crawled out of your
> niche since then ?
>
> maybe you've never lived in a country, that does not offer every home a
> choice of DSL or cable broadband ?
>
> maybe you were living in a cave for the 20 years prior to Voice-over-IP ?
>
>
>
> "OneMoreBite" <OneMoreBite@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:FA53C38F-D8F4-40FC-8E3E-8BE8FD7C18E9@microsoft.com...
> speakers
>
> Uh, okay. So you want your computer to be a huge phone? Dare I ask WHY?
>
> Kathryn Martyn, M.NLP
> http://www.OneMoreBite-Weightloss.com
> Get the Daily Bites: Inspirational Mini Lessons Using EFT
> and NLP for Ending the Struggle with Weight Loss
>
>

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D.Currie

2004-07-29, 5:52 pm

It depends, in part, on the modem. Nowadays most modems are so cheap and
don't have all the extras that modems included back when 56k was the hot
technology.

For one thing, if the modem isn't full-duplex, it's going to be a painful
experience on both ends of the phone conversation. And it's been a while
since I've seen a modem with a connector for the sound card. Not that they
don't exist, it's just not as desired an option as it used to be. Most of
them have a little speaker that's used to project the annoying
dialing/connecting tones, but there's no way to connect to any other speaker
source.

You may already have the correct modem, in which case, just ignore this. If
not, when you're shopping, make sure it's designed as a voice modem, and
double-check that it's full duplex and that you can connect input and output
to your sound card. Actually, if you're shopping for a new modem, you might
find one that you can plug the mic directly into the modem, and possibly
speakers, too. Which frees up your sound card for some background music, or
whatever.

"Eli Aran" <eli_yardena@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> so that I don't have to get up and pick up the phone in the next room (the
> real one) when it rings, while I am sitting in the other room and using my
> computer.
> I can't imagine it would be impossible to use the same modem I use in the
> computer for sending and receiving faxes on the same phone line and not
> being able to use the same hardware for regular telephone conversations!
> I have a sound card that connects to the speakers and the microphone, and
I
> have a modem that connects to the phone wall socket so why couldn't there
be
> an option to wire up all four components and receive incoming phone calls
> and using a program that displays ten numbers and a "place call" button to
> start my own phone call??? why is it unconceivable to use the computer for
> (conventional) telephone conversation?
>
> "OneMoreBite" <OneMoreBite@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:FA53C38F-D8F4-40FC-8E3E-8BE8FD7C18E9@microsoft.com...
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Maxim S. Shatskih

2004-07-29, 8:46 pm

Read the TAPI documentation. All is simple. If you do not need the duplex
talk, and only need the teller machine - which first speaks, and then listens -
then any voice modem will be OK for you.
Soundcard is not involved.

--
Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
StorageCraft Corporation
maxim@storagecraft.com
http://www.storagecraft.com

"Eli Aran" <eli_yardena@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I want to use the computer for answering the phone calls. the way I see it I
> will stop doing whatever I did on the computer in order to focus entirely on
> the conversation with the caller. I don't need an internet based phone
> program to answer the POTS. why can't you understand such a simple and basic
> wish??? rather than making fun of me and radicalizing me in the newsgroup -
> are you intelligent enough to create such a program yourself? you could be
> rich....
> "JW" <JustPostYourReply@ToTheNewsGroup.pls> wrote in message
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> and
> autodialing
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Maxim S. Shatskih

2004-07-29, 8:46 pm

> I can't imagine it would be impossible to use the same modem I use in the
> computer for sending and receiving faxes on the same phone line and not
> being able to use the same hardware for regular telephone conversations!

For conversations - impossible, unless the modem has the speakerphone facility,
which requires wires from the modem to the soundcard.

The key is impossibility of duplex mode. Simplex mode - with explicit switch
from speaking to listening - is supported in all voice modems. They end up
transferring PCM audio data over the serial port.

TAPI is the API to employ this.

--
Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
StorageCraft Corporation
maxim@storagecraft.com
http://www.storagecraft.com

Alexander Grigoriev

2004-07-29, 8:46 pm

Many voice modems support full duplex voice mode, and echo cancellation.

"Maxim S. Shatskih" <maxim@storagecraft.com> wrote in message
news:el$glEddEHA.1000@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
the[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> For conversations - impossible, unless the modem has the speakerphone
facility,
> which requires wires from the modem to the soundcard.
>
> The key is impossibility of duplex mode. Simplex mode - with explicit
switch
> from speaking to listening - is supported in all voice modems. They end up
> transferring PCM audio data over the serial port.
>
> TAPI is the API to employ this.
>
> --
> Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
> StorageCraft Corporation
> maxim@storagecraft.com
> http://www.storagecraft.com
>
>

Butch

2004-07-30, 7:49 am

"Alexander Grigoriev" <alegr@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Many voice modems support full duplex voice mode, and echo cancellation.
>
> "Maxim S. Shatskih" <maxim@storagecraft.com> wrote in message
> news:el$glEddEHA.1000@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> the
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>
> http://www.bvrp.com

2004-07-30, 5:49 pm

I was defending you, by listing over a dozen reasons why somebody would want
to use their PC, in order to have access to numerous features, either not
available from the local telephone provider or available at extra cost. I
was not replying to you, but to the sarcastic computer expert at the weight
loss company.

Besides that, I already described how you can get what you need, 3 days ago
on Tuesday July 27. If you search downloads at CNET.com like I suggested,
you will find 168 occurrences of programs that either do the same things
that telephones do, or provide extra features that telephones do not
provide.

I am no expert, but I have personally done with my PC, what you are trying
to do now. If I were a technical expert, I could explain why it works, but
I am not a technical expert. I assume the voice feature of the 3-feature
circuit board, commonly called the "voice/modem/fax card", transmits full
duplex conversation the same way handsets have done for decades (in other
words, without modulating it into a stream of data bits and parity bits).

If the solution was given to you 3 days ago, why are you still looking for a
solution ? On the same day, I even offered to help you with an earlier
problem related to a different subject (text searches). For some unknown
reason, your reply to my offer had nothing to do with text searches.

"JW" <JustPostYourReply@ToTheNewsGroup.pls> wrote in message
news:eWQFiYbdEHA.3988@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
maybe so he can do 3 things at once ? hear, speak, and type ?

maybe so he can automatically dial hundreds of numbers for his business, and
speak to any human that answers, without paying extra money for autodialing
devices ?

maybe record orders for products ?

maybe play songs while callers are on hold ?

maybe record teleconferences directly to hard disk ?

maybe hang up on unwanted callers, without paying extra money for the same
service offered by the local provider ?

maybe keep records of every telephone call and minutes used ?

maybe to create multiple voice mail boxes, without paying extra money for
the same service offered by the local provider ?

maybe morph a voice to disguise it's identity ?

maybe send himself a page, when a caller leaves a message, without paying
extra money for the service ?

maybe you've found your industry niche, and have never crawled out of your
niche since then ?

maybe you've never lived in a country, that does not offer every home a
choice of DSL or cable broadband ?

maybe you were living in a cave for the 20 years prior to Voice-over-IP ?

"OneMoreBite" <OneMoreBite@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:FA53C38F-D8F4-40FC-8E3E-8BE8FD7C18E9@microsoft.com...
> my original question states clearly that I want to use the mic and
speakers
> to make REGULAR phone calls using the SOUND CARD and the MODEM.
> I am NOT looking for an Internet or IP based phone connection!

Uh, okay. So you want your computer to be a huge phone? Dare I ask WHY?

Kathryn Martyn, M.NLP
http://www.OneMoreBite-Weightloss.com
Get the Daily Bites: Inspirational Mini Lessons Using EFT
and NLP for Ending the Struggle with Weight Loss

Eli Aran

2004-07-30, 5:49 pm

thank you!
could you please elaborate on wiring and configuration (maybe installation)
of this and how it should work?

"Maxim S. Shatskih" <maxim@storagecraft.com> wrote in message
news:%23HSPGCddEHA.3380@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Read the TAPI documentation. All is simple. If you do not need the
duplex
> talk, and only need the teller machine - which first speaks, and then
listens -
> then any voice modem will be OK for you.
> Soundcard is not involved.
>
> --
> Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
> StorageCraft Corporation
> maxim@storagecraft.com
> http://www.storagecraft.com
>
> "Eli Aran" <eli_yardena@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23XIJLjbdEHA.216@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
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Eli Aran

2004-07-30, 5:49 pm

thank you!

"D.Currie" <dmbcurrie.nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2mtco4FqurcpU1@uni-berlin.de...
> It depends, in part, on the modem. Nowadays most modems are so cheap and
> don't have all the extras that modems included back when 56k was the hot
> technology.
>
> For one thing, if the modem isn't full-duplex, it's going to be a painful
> experience on both ends of the phone conversation. And it's been a while
> since I've seen a modem with a connector for the sound card. Not that they
> don't exist, it's just not as desired an option as it used to be. Most of
> them have a little speaker that's used to project the annoying
> dialing/connecting tones, but there's no way to connect to any other
speaker
> source.
>
> You may already have the correct modem, in which case, just ignore this.
If
> not, when you're shopping, make sure it's designed as a voice modem, and
> double-check that it's full duplex and that you can connect input and
output
> to your sound card. Actually, if you're shopping for a new modem, you
might
> find one that you can plug the mic directly into the modem, and possibly
> speakers, too. Which frees up your sound card for some background music,
or
> whatever.
>
>
> "Eli Aran" <eli_yardena@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OZDjHPbdEHA.1152@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
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Eli Aran

2004-07-30, 5:49 pm

thank you!
could you please elaborate on PCM, TAPI and API for beginners?

"Maxim S. Shatskih" <maxim@storagecraft.com> wrote in message
news:el$glEddEHA.1000@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
the[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> For conversations - impossible, unless the modem has the speakerphone
facility,
> which requires wires from the modem to the soundcard.
>
> The key is impossibility of duplex mode. Simplex mode - with explicit
switch
> from speaking to listening - is supported in all voice modems. They end up
> transferring PCM audio data over the serial port.
>
> TAPI is the API to employ this.
>
> --
> Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
> StorageCraft Corporation
> maxim@storagecraft.com
> http://www.storagecraft.com
>
>

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Maxim S. Shatskih

2004-07-30, 5:49 pm

> Many voice modems support full duplex voice mode, and echo cancellation.

Good.

Can you advise some vendor/model for Eli?

--
Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
StorageCraft Corporation
maxim@storagecraft.com
http://www.storagecraft.com

Dennis Lazo

2004-07-31, 5:48 pm

okay eli,

if you really want to use your computer as a phone, then you may as well get an external 3com us robotics message modem.

this modem comes with a built in microophone, has memory to answer your phone calls (as an answering machine) and receive fax (as a fax machine) even when your computer is turned off and the modem is on.

it comes with a good software called phonetools, where you can store contact information and phone numbers.

the modem also has a line out jack which you could connect to the line in jack of your sound card. so when you are talking on the modem, the sound from whoever you are talking with is heard on your speakers. however, as i have mentioned, you don't need
a mic anymore as the modem has a built in microphone and that will be used to pick up what you are saying.

further, let me point out that i am not connected with the company mentioned above.

i hope this helps.

regards,
dennis lazo
email address is unmonitored. for emails, please use http://dennislazo.com/email/.

"Eli Aran" wrote:

> I have a modem and a sound card.
> both have voice capabilities.
> I would like to make phone calls using some kind of dialing program and my
> microphone and loud speakers .
> I would also like to be able to answer incoming phone calls, talk to people
> using the mic and hearing them in the speakers.
> I suppose that most of the calls will be local (in my city or in my country)
> but it should also be able to work with international calls.
> do you know such program (hopefully free) I can use?
> how do I wire or configure such a task?
> NOTE: I am NOT looking for an Internet based or IP based phone connection
> but a REGULAR PHONE LINE connection via the computer.
> thank you for any advice!
>
>
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David Baxter

2004-07-31, 5:48 pm

Why is this cross-posted to a zillion newsgroups including
microsoft.public.msn.search? What does any of this have to do with MSN
Search?

"Eli Aran" <eli_yardena@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:O6FLA8VdEHA.3476@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> someone gave me the idea to search for a program called "dialer.exe"
in my
> WinXP o/s and to create a shortcut for it on the desktop. apparently
it has
> "regular phone" dialing capabilities (among other internet based
connection
> options) and I tried it for my cell phone which did ring...
> I will soon try it with other local phone calls and see whether I can
> converse with the other person using the microphone.
>
> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <mrxp2004@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
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Eli Aran

2004-07-31, 5:48 pm

probably done by mistake.
sorry.

"David Baxter" <spam-me@junkmail.com> wrote in message
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> Why is this cross-posted to a zillion newsgroups including
> microsoft.public.msn.search? What does any of this have to do with MSN
> Search?
>
> "Eli Aran" <eli_yardena@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:O6FLA8VdEHA.3476@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> in my
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> my
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Brian Sullivan

2004-08-03, 2:47 am

Eli Aran,

I was setting up an Access form to dial numbers to facilitate calling to verify customer information.

I went to Tools>Customize>Commands Tab>Reports Catagory...then dragged the Auto Dialer Icon onto the toolbar.

When you highlight a phone number on the form and click the dialer it pulls up the Auto Dialer Dialog Box with the highlighted phone number. I expected the OK button to dial the phone but got an error that "Dialer.exe" could not be found.

I was assuming that a headset microphone plugged into my laptop mic and headset ports would allow me to make calls in this manner. The computer phone port connected directly into the wall phone jack........If this works??...anyone know where to get and in
stall "Dialer.exe"

Unfortunately I have not seen an "Answer the Telephone Button". For that I have a cordless phone with headset by my computer table. Speaker Phone close by would work too.

"Eli Aran" wrote:

> thank you!
> could you please elaborate on PCM, TAPI and API for beginners?
>
> "Maxim S. Shatskih" <maxim@storagecraft.com> wrote in message
> news:el$glEddEHA.1000@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> the
> facility,
> switch
>
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ciohousecaptain

2004-08-03, 2:47 am

I did some more research,

Here is an article on TAPI from MS web. More help files below. and finally a search link that brought up many more references.

Using Phone Dialer for telephony
Phone Dialer is a TAPI-based program that is installed with the Windows 2000 operating system. You can use this program for dialing over a modem that is connected to directly to the computer, IP phone calls over the computer network, PSTN phone calls usin
g an H.323 gateway to a PBX, IP phone calls
http://www.microsoft.com/windows200...oncepts_213.htm

Using Phone Dialer
You can use Phone Dialer to place telephone calls or participate in video conference calls from your computer. To use Phone Dialer, you need a telephone connected to your computer, a modem , a network account, a telephone switch connected to your local ar
ea network , or an Internet address. Open
http://www.microsoft.com/windows200...aler.htm?id=180

http://www.microsoft.com/windows200...aler.htm?id=180

http://www.microsoft.com/windows200.../app_dialer.htm

Microsoft Windows XP - Phone Dialer overview
Phone Dialer allows you to make voice calls, video calls, and conference video calls from your personal computer. To make a voice call, all you need is the recipient's phone number, IP address, or DNS (Domain Name System) name.
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/...atis_intro.mspx

Search Link: http://search.microsoft.com/search/...aler&view=en-us

"Eli Aran" wrote:

> thank you!
> could you please elaborate on PCM, TAPI and API for beginners?
>
> "Maxim S. Shatskih" <maxim@storagecraft.com> wrote in message
> news:el$glEddEHA.1000@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> the
> facility,
> switch
>
>
> ---
> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
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Eli Aran

2004-08-03, 5:51 pm

ok thank you very much.
I found that I can use FaxTalk as a telephony program.
it checked my modem and the result was that in fact my modem IS
speakerphone-capable.
what I need to do next is read about some configuration and/or wiring to the
sound card and have a go at some local phone numbers
and see what comes out...

"ciohousecaptain" <ciohousecaptain@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:E7238794-7DF9-4AF2-83CE-EEA09F27F831@microsoft.com...
> I did some more research,
>
> Here is an article on TAPI from MS web. More help files below. and
finally a search link that brought up many more references.
>
> Using Phone Dialer for telephony
> Phone Dialer is a TAPI-based program that is installed with the Windows
2000 operating system. You can use this program for dialing over a modem
that is connected to directly to the computer, IP phone calls over the
computer network, PSTN phone calls using an H.323 gateway to a PBX, IP phone
calls
>
http://www.microsoft.com/windows200...oncepts_213.htm
>
> Using Phone Dialer
> You can use Phone Dialer to place telephone calls or participate in video
conference calls from your computer. To use Phone Dialer, you need a
telephone connected to your computer, a modem , a network account, a
telephone switch connected to your local area network , or an Internet
address. Open
>
http://www.microsoft.com/windows200...aler.htm?id=180
>
>
http://www.microsoft.com/windows200...aler.htm?id=180
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows200.../app_dialer.htm
>
> Microsoft Windows XP - Phone Dialer overview
> Phone Dialer allows you to make voice calls, video calls, and conference
video calls from your personal computer. To make a voice call, all you need
is the recipient's phone number, IP address, or DNS (Domain Name System)
name.
>
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/...atis_intro.mspx
>
> Search Link:
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>
>
>
>
>
> "Eli Aran" wrote:
>
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Magellen

2004-11-30, 2:46 am

Hi
I use SKYPE a free program using a microphone plugged into your sound card,
earphones are peferred to speakers. The program is free and the sound
quality is execellent. Talk computer to computer is free. Dialing a land
line or mobile phone cost about 2 cents a minute to most locations. People I
call are amazed that I am talking through my computer

"Maxim S. Shatskih" wrote:

>
> Good.
>
> Can you advise some vendor/model for Eli?
>
> --
> Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
> StorageCraft Corporation
> maxim@storagecraft.com
> http://www.storagecraft.com
>
>
>

Jimmy

2005-11-09, 5:51 pm

Why no one can just give a simple answer?
Classic PhoneTools software is exactly what Eli needed.
http://www.bvrp.com/ENG/products/PhoneTools/

"Dennis Lazo" wrote:

> okay eli,
>
> if you really want to use your computer as a phone, then you may as well get an external 3com us robotics message modem.
>
> this modem comes with a built in microophone, has memory to answer your phone calls (as an answering machine) and receive fax (as a fax machine) even when your computer is turned off and the modem is on.
>
> it comes with a good software called phonetools, where you can store contact information and phone numbers.
>
> the modem also has a line out jack which you could connect to the line in jack of your sound card. so when you are talking on the modem, the sound from whoever you are talking with is heard on your speakers. however, as i have mentioned, you don't nee
d a mic anymore as the modem has a built in microphone and that will be used to pick up what you are saying.[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> further, let me point out that i am not connected with the company mentioned above.
>
> i hope this helps.
>
> regards,
> dennis lazo
> email address is unmonitored. for emails, please use http://dennislazo.com/email/.
>
>
>
> "Eli Aran" wrote:
>

Saajan

2006-02-22, 7:48 am

Having gone through all the replies posted by various posters, here is what I
have to say! It IS possible and I have done this in the past. If he needs to
use his computer as a telephone, he might have his own reasonings for that.
We must all try to help him out with whatever information we can rather than
questioning him and criticizing him. I do appreciate those who have posted
positive responses to his query. This was exactly my concern ages ago when I
wanted to use my computer as a telephone. I can't remember how exactly I
managed to achieve it, but I remember it wasn't too much of a hassle. I think
I used a software called Advanced Call Center or something like that. It had
all the functionalities I needed including full speaker integration. This
really served my purpose. It is not a free software, but if you look around
you might be able to find you-know-what. I was even able to hear the sounds
on my speakers, record them on to my hard drive, etc. I can't remember making
any changes to my hardware settings. It had many useful features. I haven't
used it in a long time now and so can't guarantee anything. As long as you
have a full-duplex voice modem and soundcard, this is achievable. This
software is definitely worth a try! Even I had done a lot of research on this
then and was highly impressed by this software! I would recommend you to go
ahead and purchase it.. You will never regret!

Lastly, I confirm that I am in now way endorsing this product. I just found
it highly useful and so sharing my experience here.

Thanks,
Saaj.

"Eli Aran" wrote:

> I have a modem and a sound card.
> both have voice capabilities.
> I would like to make phone calls using some kind of dialing program and my
> microphone and loud speakers .
> I would also like to be able to answer incoming phone calls, talk to people
> using the mic and hearing them in the speakers.
> I suppose that most of the calls will be local (in my city or in my country)
> but it should also be able to work with international calls.
> do you know such program (hopefully free) I can use?
> how do I wire or configure such a task?
> NOTE: I am NOT looking for an Internet based or IP based phone connection
> but a REGULAR PHONE LINE connection via the computer.
> thank you for any advice!
>
>
> ---
> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> Version: 6.0.726 / Virus Database: 481 - Release Date: 22-Jul-04
>
>
>

Gary G. Little

2006-02-22, 5:59 pm

Baloney ...

--
The personal opinion of
Gary G. Little

"Saajan" <Saajan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> We must all try to help him out with whatever information we can rather
> than
> questioning him and criticizing him.