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wardy1975@gmail.com

2006-12-06, 2:17 pm

Hi All,

I've got a situation where I am upgrading an existing .NET 1.1 CMS 2002
SP1A application to a .NET 2.0 CMS 2002 SP2. Unfortunately, this web
application sits on a web server that has other web applications that
continue to require the .NET 1.1 framework. The usual solution to this
known issue of running multiple frameworks in the same app pool is to
create another app pool and run the application in that (as 2 framework
versions cannot run in the same app pool at the same time).

However, when I try to do this with my CMS site, while I can browse and
use the non-editable sites as normal, when I try and edit content on my
editable web server, I get a "You are not authorized to view this page"
error in the browser. This does not happen if the sites are in the
default app pool....from reading the article and response from Stefan
in Google posting
"http://groups.google.ca/group/microsoft.public.cmserver.general/browse_thr=
ead/thread/65b43e7eeadae0a6/d1456b2ca3da60d0?lnk=3Dst&q=3Dusing+CMS+in+app+=
pool+.net+2&rnum=3D2&hl=3Den",
it would seem that all MCMS and related sites must be in the same app
pool. I'm wondering how exactly to do this and which sites need to
move....I have tried putting my applications, along with the MCMS
directory, into their own app pool but it doesn't work. Then, looking
at the KB article http://support.microsoft.com/?id=3D842429, it talks
about all of the web sites/directories that must be in the same app
pool to work:

=B7 mcms
=B7 nr
=B7 nrconfig
=B7 webctrl_client
=B7 channels
=B7 All top-level channels in MCMS 2002
=B7 MCMS Web application virtual directories that do not have a
matching top-level channel

What I can't figure out is how to change the app pool for the NR and
NRConfig directories....I don't have a choice in mine as the option is
greyed out.

Also, is it even possible for me to have this setup whereby I have web
sites (non CMS) running on the 1.1 Framework, and my CMS web sites in
their own application pool running on the 2.0 framework (provided I can
get all of the required CMS sites under the same app pool)?

Thanks,

Wardy

Stefan Goßner [MSFT]

2006-12-07, 1:20 pm

Hi Wardy,

it is not necessary to run all MCMS sites in the same app pool.
But a complete website needs to be in a single app pool
So you would need to have separate IIS websites with separate application
pools.

Btw: you can also upgrade to SP2 and continue to use .NET 1.1. So there is
no need to go to .NET 2.0.
But if you like you need different websites for the .NET 1.1 and the .NET
2.0 pieces.

Cheers,
Stefan

<wardy1975@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1165427404.265708.292750@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
Hi All,

I've got a situation where I am upgrading an existing .NET 1.1 CMS 2002
SP1A application to a .NET 2.0 CMS 2002 SP2. Unfortunately, this web
application sits on a web server that has other web applications that
continue to require the .NET 1.1 framework. The usual solution to this
known issue of running multiple frameworks in the same app pool is to
create another app pool and run the application in that (as 2 framework
versions cannot run in the same app pool at the same time).

However, when I try to do this with my CMS site, while I can browse and
use the non-editable sites as normal, when I try and edit content on my
editable web server, I get a "You are not authorized to view this page"
error in the browser. This does not happen if the sites are in the
default app pool....from reading the article and response from Stefan
in Google posting
"http://groups.google.ca/group/microsoft.public.cmserver.general/browse_thread/thread/65b43e7eeadae0a6/d1456b2ca3da60d0?lnk=st&q=using+CMS+in+app+pool+.net+2&rnum=2&hl=en",
it would seem that all MCMS and related sites must be in the same app
pool. I'm wondering how exactly to do this and which sites need to
move....I have tried putting my applications, along with the MCMS
directory, into their own app pool but it doesn't work. Then, looking
at the KB article http://support.microsoft.com/?id=842429, it talks
about all of the web sites/directories that must be in the same app
pool to work:

· mcms
· nr
· nrconfig
· webctrl_client
· channels
· All top-level channels in MCMS 2002
· MCMS Web application virtual directories that do not have a
matching top-level channel

What I can't figure out is how to change the app pool for the NR and
NRConfig directories....I don't have a choice in mine as the option is
greyed out.

Also, is it even possible for me to have this setup whereby I have web
sites (non CMS) running on the 1.1 Framework, and my CMS web sites in
their own application pool running on the 2.0 framework (provided I can
get all of the required CMS sites under the same app pool)?

Thanks,

Wardy


wardy

2006-12-07, 1:20 pm

Hi Stefan,

Thanks for the response....I'm not actually trying to run all MCMS
sites in the same app pool, but rather I've only got one web
application that is using MCMS, and that web application is using the
..NET 2.0 framework. Unfortunately, however, the web server also hosts
other web applications that use the 1.1 framework (but do not use MCMS
at all), so I need to separate them into app pools and because the
other applications do not use MCMS, I thought I could just move MCMS
into the same app pool as my 2.0 web application - so can I not move
the MCMS site and my application that uses MCMS into a separate
application pool - and how would I move all of the required directories
when options are greyed out?

Thanks again,

Wardy

Stefan Go=DFner [MSFT] wrote:

> Hi Wardy,
>
> it is not necessary to run all MCMS sites in the same app pool.
> But a complete website needs to be in a single app pool
> So you would need to have separate IIS websites with separate application
> pools.
>
> Btw: you can also upgrade to SP2 and continue to use .NET 1.1. So there is
> no need to go to .NET 2.0.
> But if you like you need different websites for the .NET 1.1 and the .NET
> 2.0 pieces.
>
> Cheers,
> Stefan
>
> <wardy1975@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1165427404.265708.292750@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
> Hi All,
>
> I've got a situation where I am upgrading an existing .NET 1.1 CMS 2002
> SP1A application to a .NET 2.0 CMS 2002 SP2. Unfortunately, this web
> application sits on a web server that has other web applications that
> continue to require the .NET 1.1 framework. The usual solution to this
> known issue of running multiple frameworks in the same app pool is to
> create another app pool and run the application in that (as 2 framework
> versions cannot run in the same app pool at the same time).
>
> However, when I try to do this with my CMS site, while I can browse and
> use the non-editable sites as normal, when I try and edit content on my
> editable web server, I get a "You are not authorized to view this page"
> error in the browser. This does not happen if the sites are in the
> default app pool....from reading the article and response from Stefan
> in Google posting
> "http://groups.google.ca/group/microsoft.public.cmserver.general/browse_t=

hread/thread/65b43e7eeadae0a6/d1456b2ca3da60d0?lnk=3Dst&q=3Dusing+CMS+in+ap=
p+pool+.net+2&rnum=3D2&hl=3Den",
> it would seem that all MCMS and related sites must be in the same app
> pool. I'm wondering how exactly to do this and which sites need to
> move....I have tried putting my applications, along with the MCMS
> directory, into their own app pool but it doesn't work. Then, looking
> at the KB article http://support.microsoft.com/?id=3D842429, it talks
> about all of the web sites/directories that must be in the same app
> pool to work:
>
> =B7 mcms
> =B7 nr
> =B7 nrconfig
> =B7 webctrl_client
> =B7 channels
> =B7 All top-level channels in MCMS 2002
> =B7 MCMS Web application virtual directories that do not have a
> matching top-level channel
>
> What I can't figure out is how to change the app pool for the NR and
> NRConfig directories....I don't have a choice in mine as the option is
> greyed out.
>
> Also, is it even possible for me to have this setup whereby I have web
> sites (non CMS) running on the 1.1 Framework, and my CMS web sites in
> their own application pool running on the 2.0 framework (provided I can
> get all of the required CMS sites under the same app pool)?
>=20
> Thanks,
>=20
> Wardy


Stefan Goßner [MSFT]

2006-12-07, 1:20 pm

Hi Wardy,

first of all create two application pools - one for ASP.net 2.0 and one for
ASP.NET 1.1
The create two websites - one for ASP.NET 2.0 applications and one for
ASP.NET 1.1 and assign the application pools to these two websites.

Then ensure that all web applicatons that should use 1.1 are on the website
for 1.1 and all that should use 2.0 are on the website for 2.0

Cheers,
Stefan


"wardy" <wardy1975@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1165484287.783422.285920@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
Hi Stefan,

Thanks for the response....I'm not actually trying to run all MCMS
sites in the same app pool, but rather I've only got one web
application that is using MCMS, and that web application is using the
..NET 2.0 framework. Unfortunately, however, the web server also hosts
other web applications that use the 1.1 framework (but do not use MCMS
at all), so I need to separate them into app pools and because the
other applications do not use MCMS, I thought I could just move MCMS
into the same app pool as my 2.0 web application - so can I not move
the MCMS site and my application that uses MCMS into a separate
application pool - and how would I move all of the required directories
when options are greyed out?

Thanks again,

Wardy

Stefan Goßner [MSFT] wrote:

> Hi Wardy,
>
> it is not necessary to run all MCMS sites in the same app pool.
> But a complete website needs to be in a single app pool
> So you would need to have separate IIS websites with separate application
> pools.
>
> Btw: you can also upgrade to SP2 and continue to use .NET 1.1. So there is
> no need to go to .NET 2.0.
> But if you like you need different websites for the .NET 1.1 and the .NET
> 2.0 pieces.
>
> Cheers,
> Stefan
>
> <wardy1975@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1165427404.265708.292750@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
> Hi All,
>
> I've got a situation where I am upgrading an existing .NET 1.1 CMS 2002
> SP1A application to a .NET 2.0 CMS 2002 SP2. Unfortunately, this web
> application sits on a web server that has other web applications that
> continue to require the .NET 1.1 framework. The usual solution to this
> known issue of running multiple frameworks in the same app pool is to
> create another app pool and run the application in that (as 2 framework
> versions cannot run in the same app pool at the same time).
>
> However, when I try to do this with my CMS site, while I can browse and
> use the non-editable sites as normal, when I try and edit content on my
> editable web server, I get a "You are not authorized to view this page"
> error in the browser. This does not happen if the sites are in the
> default app pool....from reading the article and response from Stefan
> in Google posting
> "http://groups.google.ca/group/microsoft.public.cmserver.general/browse_thread/thread/65b43e7eeadae0a6/d1456b2ca3da60d0?lnk=st&q=using+CMS+in+app+pool+.net+2&rnum=2&hl=en",
> it would seem that all MCMS and related sites must be in the same app
> pool. I'm wondering how exactly to do this and which sites need to
> move....I have tried putting my applications, along with the MCMS
> directory, into their own app pool but it doesn't work. Then, looking
> at the KB article http://support.microsoft.com/?id=842429, it talks
> about all of the web sites/directories that must be in the same app
> pool to work:
>
> · mcms
> · nr
> · nrconfig
> · webctrl_client
> · channels
> · All top-level channels in MCMS 2002
> · MCMS Web application virtual directories that do not have a
> matching top-level channel
>
> What I can't figure out is how to change the app pool for the NR and
> NRConfig directories....I don't have a choice in mine as the option is
> greyed out.
>
> Also, is it even possible for me to have this setup whereby I have web
> sites (non CMS) running on the 1.1 Framework, and my CMS web sites in
> their own application pool running on the 2.0 framework (provided I can
> get all of the required CMS sites under the same app pool)?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Wardy



wardy

2006-12-07, 1:20 pm

Hi Stefan,

Great, thanks for the info....I presume once the second web site (for
the 2.0) is created, then assigning web applications to this new
website (such as MCMS, NR, NRCONFIG) is just a matter of deleting from
their existing website and re-adding them to the new website as I would
have added them in the first place ? Can I do this with the
NR/NRCONFIG sites (the reason I ask is because I never added these
originally - I presume CMS did this during the installation)?

Thanks,

JohnW

Stefan Go=DFner [MSFT] wrote:
> Hi Wardy,
>
> first of all create two application pools - one for ASP.net 2.0 and one f=

or
> ASP.NET 1.1
> The create two websites - one for ASP.NET 2.0 applications and one for
> ASP.NET 1.1 and assign the application pools to these two websites.
>
> Then ensure that all web applicatons that should use 1.1 are on the websi=

te[vbcol=seagreen]
> for 1.1 and all that should use 2.0 are on the website for 2.0
>
> Cheers,
> Stefan
>
>
> "wardy" <wardy1975@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1165484287.783422.285920@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
> Hi Stefan,
>
> Thanks for the response....I'm not actually trying to run all MCMS
> sites in the same app pool, but rather I've only got one web
> application that is using MCMS, and that web application is using the
> .NET 2.0 framework. Unfortunately, however, the web server also hosts
> other web applications that use the 1.1 framework (but do not use MCMS
> at all), so I need to separate them into app pools and because the
> other applications do not use MCMS, I thought I could just move MCMS
> into the same app pool as my 2.0 web application - so can I not move
> the MCMS site and my application that uses MCMS into a separate
> application pool - and how would I move all of the required directories
> when options are greyed out?
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Wardy
>
> Stefan Go=DFner [MSFT] wrote:
>
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ET[vbcol=seagreen]
_thread/thread/65b43e7eeadae0a6/d1456b2ca3da60d0?lnk=3Dst&q=3Dusing+CMS+in+=
app+pool+.net+2&rnum=3D2&hl=3Den",[vbcol=seagreen]

Stefan Goßner [MSFT]

2006-12-08, 7:32 am

Hi Wardy,

no it is not.
The NR and MCMS will automatically be added when reconfiguring in the SCA.
And NRCONFIG is the SCA. This is a classic ASP application which is not
related to ASP.NET

Cheers,
Stefan


"wardy" <wardy1975@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1165503331.928524.251850@16g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
Hi Stefan,

Great, thanks for the info....I presume once the second web site (for
the 2.0) is created, then assigning web applications to this new
website (such as MCMS, NR, NRCONFIG) is just a matter of deleting from
their existing website and re-adding them to the new website as I would
have added them in the first place ? Can I do this with the
NR/NRCONFIG sites (the reason I ask is because I never added these
originally - I presume CMS did this during the installation)?

Thanks,

JohnW

Stefan Goßner [MSFT] wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]
> Hi Wardy,
>
> first of all create two application pools - one for ASP.net 2.0 and one
> for
> ASP.NET 1.1
> The create two websites - one for ASP.NET 2.0 applications and one for
> ASP.NET 1.1 and assign the application pools to these two websites.
>
> Then ensure that all web applicatons that should use 1.1 are on the
> website
> for 1.1 and all that should use 2.0 are on the website for 2.0
>
> Cheers,
> Stefan
>
>
> "wardy" <wardy1975@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1165484287.783422.285920@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
> Hi Stefan,
>
> Thanks for the response....I'm not actually trying to run all MCMS
> sites in the same app pool, but rather I've only got one web
> application that is using MCMS, and that web application is using the
> .NET 2.0 framework. Unfortunately, however, the web server also hosts
> other web applications that use the 1.1 framework (but do not use MCMS
> at all), so I need to separate them into app pools and because the
> other applications do not use MCMS, I thought I could just move MCMS
> into the same app pool as my 2.0 web application - so can I not move
> the MCMS site and my application that uses MCMS into a separate
> application pool - and how would I move all of the required directories
> when options are greyed out?
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Wardy
>
> Stefan Goßner [MSFT] wrote:
>


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