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Publish Web greyed out

Licensed to Quill

2004-11-29, 5:52 pm

There is something I am not quite getting here: I have googled this search
and found that I have to open or save a page as a web in order for the
"publish web" function to work

I thought I always used FrontPage in the same way and have never had this
problem before: Suddenly I am finding that I am opening web pages, saving
them as html pages and changing them as normal but somehow 'publish web' is
greyed out. I can't see why although curiously I don't see a folder view.

But I am designing pages and saving them and can see *.htm files being
created and thought that those were web pages? They are marked
whateveritis.htm on the tabs and in windows explorer. I can see them in
normal, HTML and Preview mode but Frontpage won't let me publish them to my
server? I can even see the whole directory in Windows Explorer with all the
files I have successfully published to the web beofre alongside all the ones
I want to publish now which I have jsut created which I can't now publish

What am I missing here? I have ten pages open on my desktop in ten separate
tabs on the top of the Frontpage desktop and none of them will publish?

Ronx

2004-11-29, 5:52 pm

Before you open a page, you must open a web.
Start FrontPage
File->Open Web (Open Site in FP2003)
browse to the folder holding your web pages. If FrontPage offers to convert
the folder to a web, agree - if the folder is My Documents or another system
folder, disagree and move your files to some other folder. You do not want
to convert My Documents into a web.

With the web open, Folder view will be available, along with the Publish
button.

--
Ron Symonds (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

"Licensed to Quill" <fountainpen@amexol.net> wrote in message
news:O8nRrSi1EHA.1404@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> There is something I am not quite getting here: I have googled this search
> and found that I have to open or save a page as a web in order for the
> "publish web" function to work
>
> I thought I always used FrontPage in the same way and have never had this
> problem before: Suddenly I am finding that I am opening web pages, saving
> them as html pages and changing them as normal but somehow 'publish web'
> is
> greyed out. I can't see why although curiously I don't see a folder
> view.
>
> But I am designing pages and saving them and can see *.htm files being
> created and thought that those were web pages? They are marked
> whateveritis.htm on the tabs and in windows explorer. I can see them in
> normal, HTML and Preview mode but Frontpage won't let me publish them to
> my
> server? I can even see the whole directory in Windows Explorer with all
> the
> files I have successfully published to the web beofre alongside all the
> ones
> I want to publish now which I have jsut created which I can't now publish
>
> What am I missing here? I have ten pages open on my desktop in ten
> separate
> tabs on the top of the Frontpage desktop and none of them will publish?
>
>

Licensed to Quill

2004-11-29, 5:52 pm

"Ronx" <ronx917@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%237ZTowi1EHA.824@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Before you open a page, you must open a web.
> Start FrontPage
> File->Open Web (Open Site in FP2003)
> browse to the folder holding your web pages. If FrontPage offers to
convert
> the folder to a web, agree - if the folder is My Documents or another
system
> folder, disagree and move your files to some other folder. You do not
want
> to convert My Documents into a web.
>
> With the web open, Folder view will be available, along with the Publish
> button.
I tried going to 'open web' and it just showed me empty folders where I
could see from Windows Explorer there are both the old web pages which
worked and the ones I have just created which don't.

Is it a question of exiting ProntPage and starting again and opening a web
page before you do anything else and THEN opening the .htm pages I have just
created or is there more to it than that?

FrontPageForms

2004-11-29, 5:52 pm

When you do any building with FrontPage, always start with File >> New >>Web
The to add pages to this web, File >> New >> Page

You can't just create a page and publish. It has to be the web that is
published.

Now you could take your existing pages and do a Save As to direct them to
the newly created web. Or you could go to Windows folder view and copy and
paste them that way.

"Licensed to Quill" wrote:

>
> "Ronx" <ronx917@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%237ZTowi1EHA.824@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> convert
> system
> want
> I tried going to 'open web' and it just showed me empty folders where I
> could see from Windows Explorer there are both the old web pages which
> worked and the ones I have just created which don't.
>
> Is it a question of exiting ProntPage and starting again and opening a web
> page before you do anything else and THEN opening the .htm pages I have just
> created or is there more to it than that?
>
>
>

Licensed to Quill

2004-11-29, 5:52 pm

"FrontPageForms" <FrontPageForms@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:BFBF7743-0CC0-4E23-9DD0-0A393ED60FD2@microsoft.com...
> When you do any building with FrontPage, always start with File >> New
> The to add pages to this web, File >> New >> Page
>
> You can't just create a page and publish. It has to be the web that is
> published.
>
> Now you could take your existing pages and do a Save As to direct them to
> the newly created web. Or you could go to Windows folder view and copy and
> paste them that way.
I see what you are saying: I have managed to open what I thought was the web
in which these current pages are located after going into FP. Then I opened
a page I just created in it and it SEEMS to want to publish it

Unfortunately I have got something completely screwed up and after I
publish, all I get is a flurry of error messages initially telling me tha
tthere is a conflict somewhere with perfectly working web photos which I
have already published and asking me if I want to write over some files I
published last August (or earlier). (As for publishing the page I just
saved or any of the photos on it, it doesn't actually do those pages: I have
set the publish function to 'publish changed pages only' but that doesn't
help)

FrontPageForms

2004-11-29, 5:52 pm

How about a URL for the problem page(s)?

As to the images, you might want right click them and make sure the file
isn't pointing to your C: drive, as they won't display.

I am not a graphic expert, but whenever I had problems with images, I would
paste them into Image Composer and then copy and paste into page view. I then
let FP name the image. This way you can be sure the path points to the image
and page.

Whenever you publish, FP will publish changed pages. For example if you made
a change to a Shared Border, FP would publish all pages with that border as
it perceives this as a change to the page, which it is really.

"Licensed to Quill" wrote:

>
> "FrontPageForms" <FrontPageForms@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:BFBF7743-0CC0-4E23-9DD0-0A393ED60FD2@microsoft.com...
> I see what you are saying: I have managed to open what I thought was the web
> in which these current pages are located after going into FP. Then I opened
> a page I just created in it and it SEEMS to want to publish it
>
> Unfortunately I have got something completely screwed up and after I
> publish, all I get is a flurry of error messages initially telling me tha
> tthere is a conflict somewhere with perfectly working web photos which I
> have already published and asking me if I want to write over some files I
> published last August (or earlier). (As for publishing the page I just
> saved or any of the photos on it, it doesn't actually do those pages: I have
> set the publish function to 'publish changed pages only' but that doesn't
> help)
>
>
>

Licensed to Quill

2004-11-30, 5:49 pm

The cut an paste approach sounds like a great idea which I will have to try
as my problems with the app finding the images which it has itself put into
the pages seem insuperable; in the sense of my having two My Documents
folders (one in root and one off Admin in Docs & Setts) and a confusingly
largenumber of My Webs folders off these and elsewhwere and every time I try
to create a new web page of whatever type, it creates a mywebs4 or my webs5
folder and looks to that for whatever it is looking for. And to complound
matters, manouvering from one folder to the other is an endless nightmare

The picture insert bit of FrontPage seems to be looking in one folder for
the pics and even if I direct it to another folder for the pics and it then
puts them in the page, it doesnt save them to that page. Then it looks
elsewhere (or looks there and cant find them) to upload them. So nothing
gets uploaded. (and ultimately there is no URL to look at, for some reason
while it is giving the flurry of error messages telling you that it hasn't
got all sorts of irrelevant images on the server, - possibly because they
are in some OTHER mywebs folder, - it doesnt even upload the HTM page).

This is one confusingly designed program

FrontPageForms

2004-11-30, 5:49 pm

Hi LQ,

My approach is not conventional, but I simply paste the image in the page,
allow FP to name it but don't keep my images in a folder. This is sort of a
nusiance, because they then appear in the folder list. This causes a lot of
scrolling to find my pages.

You mentioned not being able to publish a .htm page. If this is the index,
you might rename it to .html

If you are unable to publish to your site, this could be a problem with the
extensions.

"Licensed to Quill" wrote:

> The cut an paste approach sounds like a great idea which I will have to try
> as my problems with the app finding the images which it has itself put into
> the pages seem insuperable; in the sense of my having two My Documents
> folders (one in root and one off Admin in Docs & Setts) and a confusingly
> largenumber of My Webs folders off these and elsewhwere and every time I try
> to create a new web page of whatever type, it creates a mywebs4 or my webs5
> folder and looks to that for whatever it is looking for. And to complound
> matters, manouvering from one folder to the other is an endless nightmare
>
> The picture insert bit of FrontPage seems to be looking in one folder for
> the pics and even if I direct it to another folder for the pics and it then
> puts them in the page, it doesnt save them to that page. Then it looks
> elsewhere (or looks there and cant find them) to upload them. So nothing
> gets uploaded. (and ultimately there is no URL to look at, for some reason
> while it is giving the flurry of error messages telling you that it hasn't
> got all sorts of irrelevant images on the server, - possibly because they
> are in some OTHER mywebs folder, - it doesnt even upload the HTM page).
>
> This is one confusingly designed program
>
>
>

Licensed to Quill

2004-11-30, 5:49 pm

It seems to me to be a problem with FrontPage not giving the proper
instruction to send out the correct page to the server. I don't see anything
actually getting sent: It is as if it is looking in the wrong place for the
htm page (along with the 2 jpg images on it) to send and only seeing all
those irrelevant jpg images which I am not trying to upload.

It seems to be identifying all files which are in the directory which arent
on the server (or visa versa, - which are on the server which arent in the
directory ) and then asking me if I want to send them or something. It's
all totally illogical.

FrontPageForms

2004-12-01, 2:47 am

As Ron mentioned, in order to add pages to a web, you need to start with File[vbcol=seagreen]

As I mentioned, in order to start a new web. File >> New >> Web.

It could be that what you are trying to publish isn't part of a web.

"FrontPageForms" wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
> When you do any building with FrontPage, always start with File >> New >>Web
> The to add pages to this web, File >> New >> Page
>
> You can't just create a page and publish. It has to be the web that is
> published.
>
> Now you could take your existing pages and do a Save As to direct them to
> the newly created web. Or you could go to Windows folder view and copy and
> paste them that way.
>
> "Licensed to Quill" wrote:
>

John Kisha

2004-12-25, 2:46 am

When you published your site from the server to your computer hard
drive, FrontPage probably created a disk-based web site for you, which
is a good thing.

All of those .cnf & .vti files that are in the new folder mywebs5 (which
should be the disk-based copy of your site) should not be deleted. They
are some of the files that are used by FrontPage to keep track of what
you have published and keep the files on your hard drive in sync with
your on-line site. If these files are left in-tact, and you always open
the "mywebs5" folder to make changes and add pages, you will find that
you should not get as many of those error messages, as FrontPage will
have a much more accurate record of what is happening.

I would guess that if you are finding these files in other locations on
your hard drive it is because of your previous publishing attempts where
you mentioned getting "all of those errors". I would think it would be
ok to delete the .cnf & .vti files that are out-side of the "mywebs5"
folder.

If you just open up FrontPage, create a page and try to publish it to
your on-line site, you just confuse FrontPage by bypassing all of the
functionality built into FP to make things easy for you.

John Kisha
Inland Pacific Consulting
http://www.VisitUsAt.com
323-463-8300

-----Original Message-----
From: Licensed to Quill [mailto:fountainpen@amexol.net]
Posted At: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 12:41 PM
Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.extensions.windowsnt
Conversation: Publish Web greyed out
Subject: Re: Publish Web greyed out: (You were undoubtedly right)

> As I mentioned, in order to start a new web. File >> New >> Web.
>
> It could be that what you are trying to publish isn't part of a web.
>
> "FrontPageForms" wrote:
Ultimately I managed to 'cure' this problem, - if problem it was, - by
downloading the whole site all over again from the server to the
computer
which FrontPage did to a new folder called mywebs5 (not that there is
any
mywebs4 or 3 or2) and then using that to create new files and publish
them
to the web. Along the way my site disappeared (but has now reappeared)

(I am now left with all sorts of cnf and vti and image and myweb folders
all
over my hard drive in My Documents and in Docs&Setts My Documents I
havent
got the tiniest idea if I can delete or if I still need)