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Jim Carlock

2004-05-11, 8:20 pm

That is a frontpage problem I'm thinking.

The .asp extension must be in place to use .asp components.

To see the difference try the following:

Create two pages as follows:

page1.htm
page2.asp

page1.htm will be written as such:

<!--Start of page1.htm-->
<table width="400" border="3" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td width="200">Cell 1</td>
<td width="200">Cell 2</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<!--End of page1.htm-->

page2.asp will be written as:

<!--Start of page2 -->
<html>
<head>
<title>Page2 Test</title>
</head>
<body>
<p>There is a table below if the extension is .asp</p>
<hr />
<!--#include file="page1.htm"-->
<hr />
<p>There is a table above if the extension is .asp</p>
</body>
</html>
<!--End of page2-->

If you change the extension on the page2 to htm, you'll see that
the table is not included. You can supply that code to your
customers to help them understand what's going on. That's
one of the simplest ways I know of to demonstrate that .asp
is working.

There is a problem with the FrontPage extensions, possibly the
security settings or something along the issues of FrontPage not
being able to access a certain feature/program. I don't know
which specific thing it is, but I'm pretty sure it's a FrontPage
issue.

I'm cross posting this once again, it'll end up on both this group
and a couple frontpage groups.

I've experienced this problem in the past myself, and I never
followed up on it fully.

--
Jim Carlock
http://www.microcosmotalk.com/
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"Lee" wrote in message
news:8A7EA403-7B7E-425C-956A-78FF1C86FE24@microsoft.com...
I've done all that, Andrey, but to no avail. And it could be
that the person uploading may not be building his page right,
although he says he's used these components on other web
servers without a problem. In a nutshell, all his pages have
the .htm extension (e.g., index.htm, feedback.htm, etc.) rather
than .asp extensions. He's trying to have feedback forms on
his website. You can fill in the form, but it won't post any
feedback. On his page, where the form feedback should
appear after posting are the words (in brackets)
"FrontPage Save Results Component". And maybe it isn't
an ASP issue at all, I just don't know. Any guidance truly
appreciated.

Lee

Andrey P wrote:
To my memory, you just need to install NT4 Server + NT4 option pack:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...&displaylang=en

and the latest Service Pack:

http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/n.../SP6/allSP6.asp

and all the updates and fixed.

-Andrey


Jim Carlock

2004-05-11, 8:20 pm

There should be a certain FrontPage file that will need read
and execute permissions.

There is more information about this available at:
http://support.microsoft.com/defaul...B;EN-US;Q271071
http://support.microsoft.com/defaul...kb;EN-US;300543

I still don't remember what the file name was, but I think if you ask
the client to try to configure the item that is giving them problems,
and you then look in the event logs, you'll see the appropriate file,
or the client might be able to tell you exactly which file is being
reported as disfunctional.

Hope that helps.

--
Jim Carlock
http://www.microcosmotalk.com/
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"Jim Carlock" <anonymous@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
news:OLJlcNFNEHA.3012@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
That is a frontpage problem I'm thinking.

The .asp extension must be in place to use .asp components.

To see the difference try the following:

Create two pages as follows:

page1.htm
page2.asp

page1.htm will be written as such:

<!--Start of page1.htm-->
<table width="400" border="3" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td width="200">Cell 1</td>
<td width="200">Cell 2</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<!--End of page1.htm-->

page2.asp will be written as:

<!--Start of page2 -->
<html>
<head>
<title>Page2 Test</title>
</head>
<body>
<p>There is a table below if the extension is .asp</p>
<hr />
<!--#include file="page1.htm"-->
<hr />
<p>There is a table above if the extension is .asp</p>
</body>
</html>
<!--End of page2-->

If you change the extension on the page2 to htm, you'll see that
the table is not included. You can supply that code to your
customers to help them understand what's going on. That's
one of the simplest ways I know of to demonstrate that .asp
is working.

There is a problem with the FrontPage extensions, possibly the
security settings or something along the issues of FrontPage not
being able to access a certain feature/program. I don't know
which specific thing it is, but I'm pretty sure it's a FrontPage
issue.

I'm cross posting this once again, it'll end up on both this group
and a couple frontpage groups.

I've experienced this problem in the past myself, and I never
followed up on it fully.

--
Jim Carlock
http://www.microcosmotalk.com/
Post replies to the newsgroup.

"Lee" wrote in message
news:8A7EA403-7B7E-425C-956A-78FF1C86FE24@microsoft.com...
I've done all that, Andrey, but to no avail. And it could be
that the person uploading may not be building his page right,
although he says he's used these components on other web
servers without a problem. In a nutshell, all his pages have
the .htm extension (e.g., index.htm, feedback.htm, etc.) rather
than .asp extensions. He's trying to have feedback forms on
his website. You can fill in the form, but it won't post any
feedback. On his page, where the form feedback should
appear after posting are the words (in brackets)
"FrontPage Save Results Component". And maybe it isn't
an ASP issue at all, I just don't know. Any guidance truly
appreciated.

Lee

Andrey P wrote:
To my memory, you just need to install NT4 Server + NT4 option pack:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...&displaylang=en

and the latest Service Pack:

http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/n.../SP6/allSP6.asp

and all the updates and fixed.

-Andrey



Lee

2004-05-11, 8:20 pm

Jim-
I had already tried renaming the file extensions, but that had no effect. It's not working yet,
but I think I'm now on the trail. I opened the client's website in FrontPage and logged in
administratively to see if I could find a problem in his "forms" properties. Two things...
First, his properties were set to have results emailed to him (rather than being directed to a
database), but he had never let me know that he needed SMTP services configured in FP
extensions. Second, he had not named his form. Just a hunch, but I think once these two
issues are resolved (he's out of town for a couple of days) the bracketed [FrontPage Save
Results Component] may go away and his page may work properly. I'll post results here as
they are available.
Lee
Tom Miller

2004-05-12, 9:36 pm

> his website. You can fill in the form, but it won't post any
> feedback. On his page, where the form feedback should
> appear after posting are the words (in brackets)
> "FrontPage Save Results Component". And maybe it isn't
> an ASP issue at all,


I get that kind of error when the website needs a health check/recalc.
Since my web-presence provider runs FPSE but doesn't let me logon directly
to upload/download [I use ftp] I seldom can get extension-based components
to work. Since I can't run a recalc while having the site "open" I can't
cleanup the problem.

Tom


Steve Easton

2004-05-12, 10:35 pm

If they're running extensions what's preventing you from logging in when you publish to
http://yourdomain.com ??

The dots don't connect here.!!

--
Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
95isalive
This site is best viewed............
........................with a computer

"Tom Miller" <bounce-this-e-mail@chatnfiles.com> wrote in message
news:10a5j4h80cprn74@corp.supernews.com...
>
> I get that kind of error when the website needs a health check/recalc.
> Since my web-presence provider runs FPSE but doesn't let me logon directly
> to upload/download [I use ftp] I seldom can get extension-based components
> to work. Since I can't run a recalc while having the site "open" I can't
> cleanup the problem.
>
> Tom
>
>



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