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Can't successfully insert the Hit Counter web component
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| David F 2005-03-15, 2:51 am |
| Using: W2K+SP4, Office 2K + SP3, IE 6.1, FP 2003. FP Server Extensions
2002 installed.
1.
When trying to insert a Hit Counter (as the single web component in one page
of my site), on the Design View things seems to be OK. But when looking at
my site with the browser, whether locally on the computer where designed or
the remote server site, instead of seeing a count, I see a rectangular that
contains the words "Hit Counter" preceded by a small square with an X in it.
All the rest of the sight seems to be OK.
In theory I can understand that it would not work on the remote server if
for example that server does not support FP Server Extensions.
But why not working on MY computer?
The file fpcount.exe, which I presume to be invoked for handling the hit
counter function, does not show up anywhere in my local copy of my site nor
on the remote server copy of my site. Does it in either case expect to be
provided by the "Server Extensions" ?
2.
Another weird phenomenon is that when I look with my browser at the HTML
source file, again, whether on the local or remote site, and whether I have
the Hit Counter installed or not, I find the line:
<p>This page uses frames, but your browser doesn't support them.</p>
So what the hell could that be?
1. It is true that I am using frames.
2. Ever since does IE 6.1 "not supporting frames"?
3. And most of all, other than the problem with the hit counter,
everything else seems and behaves just fine, including scrollable frames,
etc. ...
Any idea about that?
Many thanks,
David
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| 1 Is your local computer running a server (IIS or PWS) with
FPextensions? These are required to see the hit counter in anything
other than design view.
2 You are looking at a frameset page in the <body> section, which is
there for those browsers (Lynx, netscape 1, some text-to-speech
browsers, some Search Engine spiders, etc) that do not support frames.
The frameset page is not the page to install a hit counter, since
frames-enabled browsers may not fire it at all.
--
Ron Symonds
Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
"David F" <David-White@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:uaVF0wQKFHA.1476@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Using: W2K+SP4, Office 2K + SP3, IE 6.1, FP 2003. FP Server
> Extensions
> 2002 installed.
>
> 1.
> When trying to insert a Hit Counter (as the single web component in
> one page
> of my site), on the Design View things seems to be OK. But when
> looking at
> my site with the browser, whether locally on the computer where
> designed or
> the remote server site, instead of seeing a count, I see a
> rectangular that
> contains the words "Hit Counter" preceded by a small square with an
> X in it.
> All the rest of the sight seems to be OK.
> In theory I can understand that it would not work on the remote
> server if
> for example that server does not support FP Server Extensions.
> But why not working on MY computer?
> The file fpcount.exe, which I presume to be invoked for handling the
> hit
> counter function, does not show up anywhere in my local copy of my
> site nor
> on the remote server copy of my site. Does it in either case expect
> to be
> provided by the "Server Extensions" ?
>
> 2.
> Another weird phenomenon is that when I look with my browser at the
> HTML
> source file, again, whether on the local or remote site, and whether
> I have
> the Hit Counter installed or not, I find the line:
> <p>This page uses frames, but your browser doesn't support them.</p>
> So what the hell could that be?
> 1. It is true that I am using frames.
> 2. Ever since does IE 6.1 "not supporting frames"?
> 3. And most of all, other than the problem with the hit counter,
> everything else seems and behaves just fine, including scrollable
> frames,
> etc. ...
> Any idea about that?
>
> Many thanks,
> David
>
>
>
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| David F 2005-03-15, 2:51 am |
| My OS is Win 2K Pro, not Win 2K server.
To the best of my knowledge IIS is installed on my computer.
How can I tell whether my computer is running a server IIS or PWS ?
As I wrote, FPSE 2002 is installed on my computer.
David
"Ronx" <ronx917@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Ob8uMVTKFHA.244@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> 1 Is your local computer running a server (IIS or PWS) with
> FPextensions? These are required to see the hit counter in anything
> other than design view.
>
> 2 You are looking at a frameset page in the <body> section, which is
> there for those browsers (Lynx, netscape 1, some text-to-speech
> browsers, some Search Engine spiders, etc) that do not support frames.
> The frameset page is not the page to install a hit counter, since
> frames-enabled browsers may not fire it at all.
>
> --
> Ron Symonds
> Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
> Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
>
> "David F" <David-White@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:uaVF0wQKFHA.1476@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>
>
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| David F 2005-03-15, 2:51 am |
| I did find that IIS (5.0) is installed and functioning on my computer.
David
"Ronx" <ronx917@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Ob8uMVTKFHA.244@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> 1 Is your local computer running a server (IIS or PWS) with
> FPextensions? These are required to see the hit counter in anything
> other than design view.
>
> 2 You are looking at a frameset page in the <body> section, which is
> there for those browsers (Lynx, netscape 1, some text-to-speech
> browsers, some Search Engine spiders, etc) that do not support frames.
> The frameset page is not the page to install a hit counter, since
> frames-enabled browsers may not fire it at all.
>
> --
> Ron Symonds
> Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
> Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
>
> "David F" <David-White@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:uaVF0wQKFHA.1476@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>
>
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| Are you accessing your web using http://localhost/webname or using a
file based URL in the form of C:\my webs\webname\
The former method is required. Note that http://machinename/webname
or http://127.0.0.1/webname are the same as http://localhost/webname
You should also be opening the web in FrontPage using the same method.
Otherwise publish the web to one of the above URLs.
--
Ron Symonds
Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
"David F" <David-White@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:%2336W1sTKFHA.604@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>I did find that IIS (5.0) is installed and functioning on my
>computer.
>
> David
>
>
> "Ronx" <ronx917@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Ob8uMVTKFHA.244@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>
>
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| David F 2005-03-15, 5:53 pm |
| I was not aware that in order to benefit from FPSE for a server based
website, I need to publish even into my own localhost. (I am in this
business only since last week...). I guessed it from your question whether I
can access my local website through http://localhost/webname which at first
I could not of course.
After I published it to my localhost, and accessed my site through it rather
then the file based access of the copy built by FP, the hit counter appears
working !. What is still a little bit weird to me is that when I try to
access the default page of the locally published copy on a file based URL,
even then the Hit counter does not work but this looks to me as not a "must
to understand" thing.
Now I can feel safer that my site is OK and the reason it does not work on
the remote hosting server is because that one probably does not support FPSE
as FP warns me when I am uploading my site to that remote server.
Anyway, seems I have learned quite a bit from your response so many thanks!
David
"Ronx" <ronx917@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23OjgNwUKFHA.3788@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Are you accessing your web using http://localhost/webname or using a
> file based URL in the form of C:\my webs\webname\
> The former method is required. Note that http://machinename/webname
> or http://127.0.0.1/webname are the same as http://localhost/webname
>
> You should also be opening the web in FrontPage using the same method.
> Otherwise publish the web to one of the above URLs.
>
> --
> Ron Symonds
> Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
> Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
>
> "David F" <David-White@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:%2336W1sTKFHA.604@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>
>
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| The run time components - hit counter, forms (using the FP form
handler), Guestbook, etc. require a server with FrontPage extensions
to work. The server can be on your machine or on the Internet.
Once you have published your disk based web to the server
(http://localhost/webname) you can open the server based web in
FrontPAge and edit from there. The disc based version can be deleted,
or better used as a backup. Every now and again publish the server
based web to the disc based location.
If your internet host does not have the extensions installed, then the
hit-counter will not work there.
--
Ron Symonds
Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
"David F" <David-White@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:On2oaLbKFHA.688@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>I was not aware that in order to benefit from FPSE for a server based
> website, I need to publish even into my own localhost. (I am in this
> business only since last week...). I guessed it from your question
> whether I
> can access my local website through http://localhost/webname which
> at first
> I could not of course.
> After I published it to my localhost, and accessed my site through
> it rather
> then the file based access of the copy built by FP, the hit counter
> appears
> working !. What is still a little bit weird to me is that when I
> try to
> access the default page of the locally published copy on a file
> based URL,
> even then the Hit counter does not work but this looks to me as not
> a "must
> to understand" thing.
>
> Now I can feel safer that my site is OK and the reason it does not
> work on
> the remote hosting server is because that one probably does not
> support FPSE
> as FP warns me when I am uploading my site to that remote server.
>
> Anyway, seems I have learned quite a bit from your response so many
> thanks!
>
> David
>
> "Ronx" <ronx917@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23OjgNwUKFHA.3788@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>
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