FrontPage Server Extensions for Windows

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Shadowrift

2005-04-20, 5:49 pm

Frontpage allows for a search template to be used on a website. I have
followed the instructions with frontpage and created the search page template
and published it. However it is not entirely working, So i guess i am missing
some steps that were not in the tutorial. After submitting a search, I am
redirected to this: http://"webservername"/"websitename"/_derived/nortbots.htm

<html>

<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage 3.0">
<title>FrontPage Run-Time Component Page</title>
<meta name="Microsoft Theme" content="none, default">
<meta name="Microsoft Border" content="none, default">
</head>

<body>

<h1>FrontPage Run-Time Component Page</h1>

<p>You have submitted a form or followed a link to a page that requires a
web server and
the FrontPage Server Extensions to function properly.</p>

<p>This form or other FrontPage component will work correctly if you publish
this
web to a web server that has the FrontPage Server Extensions installed.</p>

<h2>Click the <Back> arrow to return to the previous page.</h2>
</body>
</html>

FPSE are installed for the site, im not sure why I am getting this page,
either i did not fully set up the search page, or there was existing
frontpage search information that needs to be removed and readded. any
thoughts?

Hollis D. Paul

2005-04-20, 8:47 pm

In article <1FAA0647-18A6-487E-8412-0FEE6888BBA8@microsoft.com>,
=?Utf-8?B?U2hhZG93cmlmdA==?= wrote:
> FPSE are installed for the site, im not sure why I am getting this page,
> either i did not fully set up the search page, or there was existing
> frontpage search information that needs to be removed and readded. any
> thoughts?
>
Getting FPSE to work is a two-step process. Step 1) install them to the
box. Step 2) configure the Virtual Web Server to use them. If you do not
do both, you will get the message that FPSE are not installed. Open the
IIS Manager console, expand the sites group, select your VWS, right-click
it, and follow the instructions on how to configure your VWS to use FPSE.

Hollis D. Paul [MVP - Outlook]
Hollis@outhousebythesound.com
Mukilteo, WA USA

Ronx

2005-04-21, 7:51 am

The nortbots.htm suggests that you FTPed the web to the server, or the
server does not have FrontPage extensions installed and running.
FrontPage forms, including the search form, *must* be http published
to a server running FrontPage extensions.

File->Publish Web/Site, then type in the URL of your website in the
form
http://example.com or http://www.example.com

Since you appear to have used FTP, you may need to check and repair,
or possibly re-install, the extensions on your server. FTP can (but
not always) break the extensions.

--
Ron Symonds
Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

"Shadowrift" <Shadowrift@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1FAA0647-18A6-487E-8412-0FEE6888BBA8@microsoft.com...
> Frontpage allows for a search template to be used on a website. I
> have
> followed the instructions with frontpage and created the search page
> template
> and published it. However it is not entirely working, So i guess i
> am missing
> some steps that were not in the tutorial. After submitting a
> search, I am
> redirected to this:
> http://"webservername"/"websitename"/_derived/nortbots.htm
>
>
>
> <html>
>
> <head>
> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
> charset=iso-8859-1">
> <meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage 3.0">
> <title>FrontPage Run-Time Component Page</title>
> <meta name="Microsoft Theme" content="none, default">
> <meta name="Microsoft Border" content="none, default">
> </head>
>
> <body>
>
> <h1>FrontPage Run-Time Component Page</h1>
>
> <p>You have submitted a form or followed a link to a page that
> requires a
> web server and
> the FrontPage Server Extensions to function properly.</p>
>
> <p>This form or other FrontPage component will work correctly if you
> publish
> this
> web to a web server that has the FrontPage Server Extensions
> installed.</p>
>
> <h2>Click the <Back> arrow to return to the previous page.</h2>
> </body>
> </html>
>
>
> FPSE are installed for the site, im not sure why I am getting this
> page,
> either i did not fully set up the search page, or there was existing
> frontpage search information that needs to be removed and readded.
> any
> thoughts?

Shadowrift

2005-04-21, 5:49 pm

If i am able to publish the website with frontpage, i would assume i have
done both of those steps properly?

"Hollis D. Paul" wrote:

> In article <1FAA0647-18A6-487E-8412-0FEE6888BBA8@microsoft.com>,
> =?Utf-8?B?U2hhZG93cmlmdA==?= wrote:
> Getting FPSE to work is a two-step process. Step 1) install them to the
> box. Step 2) configure the Virtual Web Server to use them. If you do not
> do both, you will get the message that FPSE are not installed. Open the
> IIS Manager console, expand the sites group, select your VWS, right-click
> it, and follow the instructions on how to configure your VWS to use FPSE.
>
> Hollis D. Paul [MVP - Outlook]
> Hollis@outhousebythesound.com
> Mukilteo, WA USA
>
>
>

Shadowrift

2005-04-21, 5:49 pm

The only time FTP was used, was before the server extensions were installed.
after installing the server extensions i have only used the publish feature.
If a website is already present, and FPSE are installed, does this corrupt
any FP information that was already on that site?

"Ronx" wrote:

> The nortbots.htm suggests that you FTPed the web to the server, or the
> server does not have FrontPage extensions installed and running.
> FrontPage forms, including the search form, *must* be http published
> to a server running FrontPage extensions.
>
> File->Publish Web/Site, then type in the URL of your website in the
> form
> http://example.com or http://www.example.com
>
> Since you appear to have used FTP, you may need to check and repair,
> or possibly re-install, the extensions on your server. FTP can (but
> not always) break the extensions.
>
> --
> Ron Symonds
> Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
> Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
>
>
> "Shadowrift" <Shadowrift@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:1FAA0647-18A6-487E-8412-0FEE6888BBA8@microsoft.com...
>
>
>

Shadowrift

2005-04-21, 5:49 pm

So here are the steps i have taken:
1) remove subweb
2) remove server extensions 2002
3) remove website documents and folders from remote server
4) configure server extensions 2002
5) create subweb
6) open FrontPage 2003 and publish site

I am not getting the message that server extensions are not created, I am
now getting an error
"The page cannot be found" for nortbots.htm

on the search page i found this is the following code:
"onsubmit="location.href='_derived/nortbots.htm';return false;"

Geeze, what is going on here?

"Shadowrift" wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
> The only time FTP was used, was before the server extensions were installed.
> after installing the server extensions i have only used the publish feature.
> If a website is already present, and FPSE are installed, does this corrupt
> any FP information that was already on that site?
>
> "Ronx" wrote:
>

Shadowrift

2005-04-21, 5:49 pm

I have recalculated the web and subweb and still no dice.

any thoughts?

"Shadowrift" wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
> So here are the steps i have taken:
> 1) remove subweb
> 2) remove server extensions 2002
> 3) remove website documents and folders from remote server
> 4) configure server extensions 2002
> 5) create subweb
> 6) open FrontPage 2003 and publish site
>
> I am not getting the message that server extensions are not created, I am
> now getting an error
> "The page cannot be found" for nortbots.htm
>
> on the search page i found this is the following code:
> "onsubmit="location.href='_derived/nortbots.htm';return false;"
>
> Geeze, what is going on here?
>
>
> "Shadowrift" wrote:
>

Ronx

2005-04-21, 5:49 pm

Do you have a link to the site?
nortbots.htm only appears in four cases:
1) You are testing on a disc-based website
2) You are testing on a website that does not have server extensions
installed or running
3) The site (or form page) was FTPed from a disc-based web, or
published using a FTP address for the destination. Publish must be to
a URL of the form http://example.com
4) There is a bug associated with FrontPage98 which causes this
problem.

Item 4 does not apply, which leaves the other 3 to choose from...

If you install extensions on an existing site any webbots (search form
in this case) would probably be rebuilt. Use Tools->Recalculate
Hyperlinks to make sure.

If none of the above conditions apply, open the site on the server in
FrontPage, and remove the search component from the page. Save the
page. Recalculate Hyperlinks.
Open the page and re-insert the search component. Then test. If this
produces the nortbots error, there is something amiss with the
extensions on that server. (There may be other errors regarding Index
Server - but that's another story...)
--
Ron Symonds
Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

"Shadowrift" <Shadowrift@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5D1EFDF4-A857-4113-88AA-4CF42FA3F31A@microsoft.com...[vbcol=seagreen]
>I have recalculated the web and subweb and still no dice.

> any thoughts?
>
> "Shadowrift" wrote:
>

Shadowrift

2005-04-21, 5:49 pm

thanks Ronx, the url is
http://iiss1dev.first.cibc.com/tool...cess/search.htm

1)The website was created on the local machine im using, then i publish it
to the webserver. I think therefore by definition this is a "disk-based
website"? im not entirely clear on the distinction between
creating/maintaining server and disk based websites. If this is the case,
how do i go about fixing this ?

2) The server extensions are installed and running, you can verify this here:
http://iiss1dev.first.cibc.com/_vti_inf.html
http://iiss1dev.first.cibc.com/_vti_bin/shtml.dll

3) Remote Web server type:
FrontPage ro SharePoint Services
The Remote Web server supports DIstributed Authoring and Versioning.

4)The extensions are not running version 98, as described here:
http://iiss1dev.first.cibc.com/_vti_inf.html

I Followed your other instructions. Removed webbot code on the server side,
saved, recalculated. Reinserted webbot code and saved. Now the search tool
is missing on the search page. instead of a text field and button i get the
message:
"[FrontPage Search Component]"

question: in frontpage after removing the search page from either the local
or remote site, when you select new->template->search, is it supposed to have
a default title of "search.htm"? because in frontpage its giving me
"new_page_1.htm" when saving?

"Ronx" wrote:

> Do you have a link to the site?
> nortbots.htm only appears in four cases:
> 1) You are testing on a disc-based website
> 2) You are testing on a website that does not have server extensions
> installed or running
> 3) The site (or form page) was FTPed from a disc-based web, or
> published using a FTP address for the destination. Publish must be to
> a URL of the form http://example.com
> 4) There is a bug associated with FrontPage98 which causes this
> problem.
>
> Item 4 does not apply, which leaves the other 3 to choose from...
>
> If you install extensions on an existing site any webbots (search form
> in this case) would probably be rebuilt. Use Tools->Recalculate
> Hyperlinks to make sure.
>
> If none of the above conditions apply, open the site on the server in
> FrontPage, and remove the search component from the page. Save the
> page. Recalculate Hyperlinks.
> Open the page and re-insert the search component. Then test. If this
> produces the nortbots error, there is something amiss with the
> extensions on that server. (There may be other errors regarding Index
> Server - but that's another story...)
> --
> Ron Symonds
> Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
> Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
>
> "Shadowrift" <Shadowrift@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:5D1EFDF4-A857-4113-88AA-4CF42FA3F31A@microsoft.com...
>
>
>

Ronx

2005-04-21, 5:49 pm

Inline
--
Ron Symonds
Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

"Shadowrift" <Shadowrift@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:CC8C39FB-3F2F-48FC-8F6D-11934FDDF622@microsoft.com...
> thanks Ronx, the url is
> http://iiss1dev.first.cibc.com/tool...cess/search.htm

I cannot access this site.
404 error
>
> 1)The website was created on the local machine im using, then i
> publish it
> to the webserver. I think therefore by definition this is a
> "disk-based
> website"? im not entirely clear on the distinction between
> creating/maintaining server and disk based websites. If this is the
> case,
> how do i go about fixing this ?

On your machine the site is a disc-based site, accessed using a file
path such as
C:\myweb\myWebSite
On the server it is a Server-based site, accessed using a URL such as
http://example.com

> 2) The server extensions are installed and running, you can verify
> this here:
> http://iiss1dev.first.cibc.com/_vti_inf.html
> http://iiss1dev.first.cibc.com/_vti_bin/shtml.dll

Can't. No access to the site.

> 3) Remote Web server type:
> FrontPage ro SharePoint Services
> The Remote Web server supports DIstributed Authoring and
> Versioning.
>
> 4)The extensions are not running version 98, as described here:
> http://iiss1dev.first.cibc.com/_vti_inf.html

The FP98 error refered to the program FrontPage 98, not to the
extensions.

>
> I Followed your other instructions. Removed webbot code on the
> server side,
> saved, recalculated. Reinserted webbot code and saved. Now the
> search tool
> is missing on the search page. instead of a text field and button i
> get the
> message:
> "[FrontPage Search Component]"

This indicates there is something not set up or configured that the
extensions require.
Has an Index Service catalogue been created for the site, and
configured correctly?
Has IIS been configured to use Index Service
If Windows 2003 server, has Index Service been "allowed" in the IIS
MMC?
If Index Service does not appear in the list of services, then it will
have to be reinstalled.

> question: in frontpage after removing the search page from either
> the local
> or remote site, when you select new->template->search, is it
> supposed to have
> a default title of "search.htm"? because in frontpage its giving me
> "new_page_1.htm" when saving?

My FP2003 also produces "new_page_1.htm" for a new search page.
[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> "Ronx" wrote:
>

Hollis D. Paul

2005-04-21, 8:47 pm

In article <614D19D0-2C34-4FBB-8E1E-F037DC0CD147@microsoft.com>,
=?Utf-8?B?U2hhZG93cmlmdA==?= wrote:
> If i am able to publish the website with frontpage, i would assume i have
> done both of those steps properly?
>
I think you can publish without FPSE being installed, but I may be wrong in
that.

Hollis D. Paul [MVP - Outlook]
Hollis@outhousebythesound.com
Mukilteo, WA USA

Shadowrift

2005-04-22, 5:58 pm

>Has an Index Service catalogue been created for the site, and
>configured correctly?
>Has IIS been configured to use Index Service
>If Windows 2003 server, has Index Service been "allowed" in the IIS
>MMC?
>If Index Service does not appear in the list of services, then it will
>have to be reinstalled.

I appreciate the help.

I guess the site is strictly internal.
No, no index Service or catalogue appears anywhere in iis. This would most
likely be the problem.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...uwebov_6twz.asp
Provides me some general outlines, but what i really need is a procedure i
can follow to get the indexing service going for this web. Are there any good
resources? or can you provide a simple breakdown?

"Ronx" wrote:

> Inline
> --
> Ron Symonds
> Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
> Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
>
> "Shadowrift" <Shadowrift@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:CC8C39FB-3F2F-48FC-8F6D-11934FDDF622@microsoft.com...
>
> I cannot access this site.
> 404 error
>
> On your machine the site is a disc-based site, accessed using a file
> path such as
> C:\myweb\myWebSite
> On the server it is a Server-based site, accessed using a URL such as
> http://example.com
>
>
> Can't. No access to the site.
>
>
> The FP98 error refered to the program FrontPage 98, not to the
> extensions.
>
>
> This indicates there is something not set up or configured that the
> extensions require.
> Has an Index Service catalogue been created for the site, and
> configured correctly?
> Has IIS been configured to use Index Service
> If Windows 2003 server, has Index Service been "allowed" in the IIS
> MMC?
> If Index Service does not appear in the list of services, then it will
> have to be reinstalled.
>
>
> My FP2003 also produces "new_page_1.htm" for a new search page.
>
>
>
>

Tom Pepper Willett

2005-04-22, 5:58 pm

Shadowrift

2005-04-22, 5:58 pm

Thanks,
I have the indexing tool working in MMC perfectly.
The only prolbem is I am still getting the "[frontpage search component]"
message where a search bot should be. I tried recalculating the hyperlinks
but to no effect.

you mentioned something about configuring the catalog in iis? is there more
to just clicking the box under home directory for "index this site" ?

"Tom Pepper Willett" wrote:

> How to Index and Create a Catalog for a New Web Site
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q183731/
>
> Also, you may wish to visit the index server newsgroups.
> --
> ===
> Tom "Pepper" Willett
> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
> ---
> About FrontPage 2003:
> http://office.microsoft.com/home/of...etid=FX01085802
> FrontPage 2003 Product Information:
> http://www.microsoft.com/office/fro...fo/default.mspx
> Understanding FrontPage:
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/un...ding/frontpage/
> FrontPage 2002 Server Extensions Support Center:
> http://support.microsoft.com/defaul...fh;en-us;fp10se
> ===
> "Shadowrift" <Shadowrift@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:9C4EFF31-954C-4AB6-8B6F-9FDB4C28AEB3@microsoft.com...
> |
> | >Has an Index Service catalogue been created for the site, and
> | >configured correctly?
> | >Has IIS been configured to use Index Service
> | >If Windows 2003 server, has Index Service been "allowed" in the IIS
> | >MMC?
> | >If Index Service does not appear in the list of services, then it will
> | >have to be reinstalled.
> |
> | I appreciate the help.
> |
> | I guess the site is strictly internal.
> | No, no index Service or catalogue appears anywhere in iis. This would most
> | likely be the problem.
> |
> |
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...uwebov_6twz.asp
> | Provides me some general outlines, but what i really need is a procedure i
> | can follow to get the indexing service going for this web. Are there any
> good
> | resources? or can you provide a simple breakdown?
> |
> |
> |
> |
> | "Ronx" wrote:
> |
> | > Inline
> | > --
> | > Ron Symonds
> | > Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
> | > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
> | >
> | > "Shadowrift" <Shadowrift@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | > news:CC8C39FB-3F2F-48FC-8F6D-11934FDDF622@microsoft.com...
> | > > thanks Ronx, the url is
> | > > http://iiss1dev.first.cibc.com/tool...cess/search.htm
> | >
> | > I cannot access this site.
> | > 404 error
> | > >
> | > > 1)The website was created on the local machine im using, then i
> | > > publish it
> | > > to the webserver. I think therefore by definition this is a
> | > > "disk-based
> | > > website"? im not entirely clear on the distinction between
> | > > creating/maintaining server and disk based websites. If this is the
> | > > case,
> | > > how do i go about fixing this ?
> | >
> | > On your machine the site is a disc-based site, accessed using a file
> | > path such as
> | > C:\myweb\myWebSite
> | > On the server it is a Server-based site, accessed using a URL such as
> | > http://example.com
> | >
> | > > 2) The server extensions are installed and running, you can verify
> | > > this here:
> | > > http://iiss1dev.first.cibc.com/_vti_inf.html
> | > > http://iiss1dev.first.cibc.com/_vti_bin/shtml.dll
> | >
> | > Can't. No access to the site.
> | >
> | > > 3) Remote Web server type:
> | > > FrontPage ro SharePoint Services
> | > > The Remote Web server supports DIstributed Authoring and
> | > > Versioning.
> | > >
> | > > 4)The extensions are not running version 98, as described here:
> | > > http://iiss1dev.first.cibc.com/_vti_inf.html
> | >
> | > The FP98 error refered to the program FrontPage 98, not to the
> | > extensions.
> | >
> | > >
> | > > I Followed your other instructions. Removed webbot code on the
> | > > server side,
> | > > saved, recalculated. Reinserted webbot code and saved. Now the
> | > > search tool
> | > > is missing on the search page. instead of a text field and button i
> | > > get the
> | > > message:
> | > > "[FrontPage Search Component]"
> | >
> | > This indicates there is something not set up or configured that the
> | > extensions require.
> | > Has an Index Service catalogue been created for the site, and
> | > configured correctly?
> | > Has IIS been configured to use Index Service
> | > If Windows 2003 server, has Index Service been "allowed" in the IIS
> | > MMC?
> | > If Index Service does not appear in the list of services, then it will
> | > have to be reinstalled.
> | >
> | > > question: in frontpage after removing the search page from either
> | > > the local
> | > > or remote site, when you select new->template->search, is it
> | > > supposed to have
> | > > a default title of "search.htm"? because in frontpage its giving me
> | > > "new_page_1.htm" when saving?
> | >
> | > My FP2003 also produces "new_page_1.htm" for a new search page.
> | >
> | > >
> | > > "Ronx" wrote:
> | > >
> | > >> Do you have a link to the site?
> | > >> nortbots.htm only appears in four cases:
> | > >> 1) You are testing on a disc-based website
> | > >> 2) You are testing on a website that does not have server
> | > >> extensions
> | > >> installed or running
> | > >> 3) The site (or form page) was FTPed from a disc-based web, or
> | > >> published using a FTP address for the destination. Publish must be
> | > >> to
> | > >> a URL of the form http://example.com
> | > >> 4) There is a bug associated with FrontPage98 which causes this
> | > >> problem.
> | > >>
> | > >> Item 4 does not apply, which leaves the other 3 to choose from...
> | > >>
> | > >> If you install extensions on an existing site any webbots (search
> | > >> form
> | > >> in this case) would probably be rebuilt. Use Tools->Recalculate
> | > >> Hyperlinks to make sure.
> | > >>
> | > >> If none of the above conditions apply, open the site on the server
> | > >> in
> | > >> FrontPage, and remove the search component from the page. Save the
> | > >> page. Recalculate Hyperlinks.
> | > >> Open the page and re-insert the search component. Then test. If
> | > >> this
> | > >> produces the nortbots error, there is something amiss with the
> | > >> extensions on that server. (There may be other errors regarding
> | > >> Index
> | > >> Server - but that's another story...)
> | > >> --
> | > >> Ron Symonds
> | > >> Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
> | > >> Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
> | > >>
> | > >> "Shadowrift" <Shadowrift@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> | > >> message
> | > >> news:5D1EFDF4-A857-4113-88AA-4CF42FA3F31A@microsoft.com...
> | > >> >I have recalculated the web and subweb and still no dice.

Tom Pepper Willett

2005-04-22, 5:58 pm

Time for you to visit the index server newsgroup.

--
===
Tom "Pepper" Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
About FrontPage 2003:
http://office.microsoft.com/home/of...etid=FX01085802
FrontPage 2003 Product Information:
http://www.microsoft.com/office/fro...fo/default.mspx
Understanding FrontPage:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/un...ding/frontpage/
FrontPage 2002 Server Extensions Support Center:
http://support.microsoft.com/defaul...fh;en-us;fp10se
===
"Shadowrift" <Shadowrift@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:20F80B1C-CCFC-4D63-93A2-D92D9695A0DB@microsoft.com...
| Thanks,
| I have the indexing tool working in MMC perfectly.
| The only prolbem is I am still getting the "[frontpage search component]"
| message where a search bot should be. I tried recalculating the hyperlinks
| but to no effect.
|
| you mentioned something about configuring the catalog in iis? is there
more
| to just clicking the box under home directory for "index this site" ?
|
|
| "Tom Pepper Willett" wrote:
|
| > How to Index and Create a Catalog for a New Web Site
| > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q183731/
| >
| > Also, you may wish to visit the index server newsgroups.
| > --
| > ===
| > Tom "Pepper" Willett
| > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| > ---
| > About FrontPage 2003:
| > http://office.microsoft.com/home/of...etid=FX01085802
| > FrontPage 2003 Product Information:
| > http://www.microsoft.com/office/fro...fo/default.mspx
| > Understanding FrontPage:
| > http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/un...ding/frontpage/
| > FrontPage 2002 Server Extensions Support Center:
| > http://support.microsoft.com/defaul...fh;en-us;fp10se
| > ===
| > "Shadowrift" <Shadowrift@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > news:9C4EFF31-954C-4AB6-8B6F-9FDB4C28AEB3@microsoft.com...
| > |
| > | >Has an Index Service catalogue been created for the site, and
| > | >configured correctly?
| > | >Has IIS been configured to use Index Service
| > | >If Windows 2003 server, has Index Service been "allowed" in the IIS
| > | >MMC?
| > | >If Index Service does not appear in the list of services, then it
will
| > | >have to be reinstalled.
| > |
| > | I appreciate the help.
| > |
| > | I guess the site is strictly internal.
| > | No, no index Service or catalogue appears anywhere in iis. This would
most
| > | likely be the problem.
| > |
| > |
| >
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...uwebov_6twz.asp
| > | Provides me some general outlines, but what i really need is a
procedure i
| > | can follow to get the indexing service going for this web. Are there
any
| > good
| > | resources? or can you provide a simple breakdown?
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > | "Ronx" wrote:
| > |
| > | > Inline
| > | > --
| > | > Ron Symonds
| > | > Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
| > | > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
| > | >
| > | > "Shadowrift" <Shadowrift@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > | > news:CC8C39FB-3F2F-48FC-8F6D-11934FDDF622@microsoft.com...
| > | > > thanks Ronx, the url is
| > | > > http://iiss1dev.first.cibc.com/tool...cess/search.htm
| > | >
| > | > I cannot access this site.
| > | > 404 error
| > | > >
| > | > > 1)The website was created on the local machine im using, then i
| > | > > publish it
| > | > > to the webserver. I think therefore by definition this is a
| > | > > "disk-based
| > | > > website"? im not entirely clear on the distinction between
| > | > > creating/maintaining server and disk based websites. If this is
the
| > | > > case,
| > | > > how do i go about fixing this ?
| > | >
| > | > On your machine the site is a disc-based site, accessed using a file
| > | > path such as
| > | > C:\myweb\myWebSite
| > | > On the server it is a Server-based site, accessed using a URL such
as
| > | > http://example.com
| > | >
| > | > > 2) The server extensions are installed and running, you can verify
| > | > > this here:
| > | > > http://iiss1dev.first.cibc.com/_vti_inf.html
| > | > > http://iiss1dev.first.cibc.com/_vti_bin/shtml.dll
| > | >
| > | > Can't. No access to the site.
| > | >
| > | > > 3) Remote Web server type:
| > | > > FrontPage ro SharePoint Services
| > | > > The Remote Web server supports DIstributed Authoring and
| > | > > Versioning.
| > | > >
| > | > > 4)The extensions are not running version 98, as described here:
| > | > > http://iiss1dev.first.cibc.com/_vti_inf.html
| > | >
| > | > The FP98 error refered to the program FrontPage 98, not to the
| > | > extensions.
| > | >
| > | > >
| > | > > I Followed your other instructions. Removed webbot code on the
| > | > > server side,
| > | > > saved, recalculated. Reinserted webbot code and saved. Now the
| > | > > search tool
| > | > > is missing on the search page. instead of a text field and button
i
| > | > > get the
| > | > > message:
| > | > > "[FrontPage Search Component]"
| > | >
| > | > This indicates there is something not set up or configured that the
| > | > extensions require.
| > | > Has an Index Service catalogue been created for the site, and
| > | > configured correctly?
| > | > Has IIS been configured to use Index Service
| > | > If Windows 2003 server, has Index Service been "allowed" in the IIS
| > | > MMC?
| > | > If Index Service does not appear in the list of services, then it
will
| > | > have to be reinstalled.
| > | >
| > | > > question: in frontpage after removing the search page from either
| > | > > the local
| > | > > or remote site, when you select new->template->search, is it
| > | > > supposed to have
| > | > > a default title of "search.htm"? because in frontpage its giving
me
| > | > > "new_page_1.htm" when saving?
| > | >
| > | > My FP2003 also produces "new_page_1.htm" for a new search page.
| > | >
| > | > >
| > | > > "Ronx" wrote:
| > | > >
| > | > >> Do you have a link to the site?
| > | > >> nortbots.htm only appears in four cases:
| > | > >> 1) You are testing on a disc-based website
| > | > >> 2) You are testing on a website that does not have server
| > | > >> extensions
| > | > >> installed or running
| > | > >> 3) The site (or form page) was FTPed from a disc-based web, or
| > | > >> published using a FTP address for the destination. Publish must
be
| > | > >> to
| > | > >> a URL of the form http://example.com
| > | > >> 4) There is a bug associated with FrontPage98 which causes this
| > | > >> problem.
| > | > >>
| > | > >> Item 4 does not apply, which leaves the other 3 to choose from...
| > | > >>
| > | > >> If you install extensions on an existing site any webbots (search
| > | > >> form
| > | > >> in this case) would probably be rebuilt. Use Tools->Recalculate
| > | > >> Hyperlinks to make sure.
| > | > >>
| > | > >> If none of the above conditions apply, open the site on the
server
| > | > >> in
| > | > >> FrontPage, and remove the search component from the page. Save
the
| > | > >> page. Recalculate Hyperlinks.
| > | > >> Open the page and re-insert the search component. Then test. If
| > | > >> this
| > | > >> produces the nortbots error, there is something amiss with the
| > | > >> extensions on that server. (There may be other errors regarding
| > | > >> Index
| > | > >> Server - but that's another story...)
| > | > >> --
| > | > >> Ron Symonds
| > | > >> Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
| > | > >> Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
| > | > >>
| > | > >> "Shadowrift" <Shadowrift@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
| > | > >> message
| > | > >> news:5D1EFDF4-A857-4113-88AA-4CF42FA3F31A@microsoft.com...
| > | > >> >I have recalculated the web and subweb and still no dice.

| > | > >> > any thoughts?
| > | > >> >
| > | > >> > "Shadowrift" wrote:
| > | > >> >
| > | > >> >> So here are the steps i have taken:
| > | > >> >> 1) remove subweb
| > | > >> >> 2) remove server extensions 2002
| > | > >> >> 3) remove website documents and folders from remote server
| > | > >> >> 4) configure server extensions 2002
| > | > >> >> 5) create subweb
| > | > >> >> 6) open FrontPage 2003 and publish site
| > | > >> >>
| > | > >> >> I am not getting the message that server extensions are not
| > | > >> >> created, I am
| > | > >> >> now getting an error
| > | > >> >> "The page cannot be found" for nortbots.htm
| > | > >> >>
| > | > >> >> on the search page i found this is the following code:
| > | > >> >> "onsubmit="location.href='_derived/nortbots.htm';return
false;"
| > | > >> >>
| > | > >> >> Geeze, what is going on here?
| > | > >> >>
| > | > >> >>
| > | > >> >> "Shadowrift" wrote:
| > | > >> >>
| > | > >> >> > The only time FTP was used, was before the server extensions
| > | > >> >> > were
| > | > >> >> > installed.
| > | > >> >> > after installing the server extensions i have only used the
| > | > >> >> > publish feature.
| > | > >> >> > If a website is already present, and FPSE are installed,
does
| > | > >> >> > this corrupt
| > | > >> >> > any FP information that was already on that site?
| > | > >> >> >
| > | > >> >> > "Ronx" wrote:
| > | > >> >> >
| > | > >> >> > > The nortbots.htm suggests that you FTPed the web to the
| > | > >> >> > > server,
| > | > >> >> > > or the
| > | > >> >> > > server does not have FrontPage extensions installed and
| > | > >> >> > > running.
| > | > >> >> > > FrontPage forms, including the search form, *must* be http
| > | > >> >> > > published
| > | > >> >> > > to a server running FrontPage extensions.
| > | > >> >> > >
| > | > >> >> > > File->Publish Web/Site, then type in the URL of your
website
| > | > >> >> > > in
| > | > >> >> > > the
| > | > >> >> > > form
| > | > >> >> > > http://example.com or http://www.example.com
| > | > >> >> > >
| > | > >> >> > > Since you appear to have used FTP, you may need to check
and
| > | > >> >> > > repair,
| > | > >> >> > > or possibly re-install, the extensions on your server.
FTP
| > | > >> >> > > can
| > | > >> >> > > (but
| > | > >> >> > > not always) break the extensions.
| > | > >> >> > >
| > | > >> >> > > --
| > | > >> >> > > Ron Symonds
| > | > >> >> > > Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
| > | > >> >> > > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
| > | > >> >> > >
| > | > >> >> > >
| > | > >> >> > > "Shadowrift" <Shadowrift@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
in
| > | > >> >> > > message
| > | > >> >> > > news:1FAA0647-18A6-487E-8412-0FEE6888BBA8@microsoft.com...
| > | > >> >> > > > Frontpage allows for a search template to be used on a
| > | > >> >> > > > website. I
| > | > >> >> > > > have
| > | > >> >> > > > followed the instructions with frontpage and created the
| > | > >> >> > > > search page
| > | > >> >> > > > template
| > | > >> >> > > > and published it. However it is not entirely working, So
i
| > | > >> >> > > > guess i
| > | > >> >> > > > am missing
| > | > >> >> > > > some steps that were not in the tutorial. After
| > | > >> >> > > > submitting a
| > | > >> >> > > > search, I am
| > | > >> >> > > > redirected to this:
| > | > >> >> > > >
http://"webservername"/"websitename"/_derived/nortbots.htm
| > | > >> >> > > >
| > | > >> >> > > >
| > | > >> >> > > >
| > | > >> >> > > > <html>
| > | > >> >> > > >
| > | > >> >> > > > <head>
| > | > >> >> > > > <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
| > | > >> >> > > > charset=iso-8859-1">
| > | > >> >> > > > <meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage
3.0">
| > | > >> >> > > > <title>FrontPage Run-Time Component Page</title>
| > | > >> >> > > > <meta name="Microsoft Theme" content="none, default">
| > | > >> >> > > > <meta name="Microsoft Border" content="none, default">
| > | > >> >> > > > </head>
| > | > >> >> > > >
| > | > >> >> > > > <body>
| > | > >> >> > > >
| > | > >> >> > > > <h1>FrontPage Run-Time Component Page</h1>
| > | > >> >> > > >
| > | > >> >> > > > <p>You have submitted a form or followed a link to a
page
| > | > >> >> > > > that
| > | > >> >> > > > requires a
| > | > >> >> > > > web server and
| > | > >> >> > > > the FrontPage Server Extensions to function
properly.</p>
| > | > >> >> > > >
| > | > >> >> > > > <p>This form or other FrontPage component will work
| > | > >> >> > > > correctly
| > | > >> >> > > > if you
| > | > >> >> > > > publish
| > | > >> >> > > > this
| > | > >> >> > > > web to a web server that has the FrontPage Server
| > | > >> >> > > > Extensions
| > | > >> >> > > > installed.</p>
| > | > >> >> > > >
| > | > >> >> > > > <h2>Click the <Back> arrow to return to the previous
| > | > >> >> > > > page.</h2>
| > | > >> >> > > > </body>
| > | > >> >> > > > </html>
| > | > >> >> > > >
| > | > >> >> > > >
| > | > >> >> > > > FPSE are installed for the site, im not sure why I am
| > | > >> >> > > > getting
| > | > >> >> > > > this
| > | > >> >> > > > page,
| > | > >> >> > > > either i did not fully set up the search page, or there
| > | > >> >> > > > was
| > | > >> >> > > > existing
| > | > >> >> > > > frontpage search information that needs to be removed
and
| > | > >> >> > > > readded.
| > | > >> >> > > > any
| > | > >> >> > > > thoughts?
| > | > >> >> > >
| > | > >> >> > >
| > | > >> >> > >
| > | > >>
| > | > >>
| > | > >>
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| >
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