FrontPage Server Extensions for Windows - FPSE - ISA - IIS

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FPSE - ISA - IIS - VS6

Roland Hall

2005-08-10, 2:49 am

POST /_vti_bin/shtml.dll/_vti_rpc HTTP/1.0

This is the what is failing. I see it in my sniffer. The IIS server is
responding with:
HTTP/1.1 500 ( The request is not supported. ) 536 0.080102 2.893699
08/09/2005 21:25:38.351318

You can connect with Visual Studio 6 outside the ISA but through it you get
this. Connecting through ISA using IE works fine.
Nothing logged in IIS, on the DC or on ISA for failing although I do see in
ISA the connection attempt fails but, the first GET is successful and the
first POST is successful. The next one fails and then the IIS server
disconnects.

The file: shtml.dll is in the virtual directory /_vti_bin, physical address
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\web server
extensions\50\isapi. _cti_rpc appears to be a call within the .dll.

Only port 80 is open through ISA to the web server.

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Roland Hall

2005-08-12, 5:57 pm

"Wei-Dong XU [MSFT]" wrote in message
news:qAs3trhnFHA.3472@TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl...
: Since the request from VS6 is handled by FPSE, this should be one FPSE
: issue. So I think the FPSE newsgroup should be the appropriate newsgroup
: for this matter.

Wei-Dong XU

I have a MSDN Universal subscription... removing my cross-posted NGs from
the list and then telling me to post in a group I already did, which has yet
to be addressed, does not satisfy our agreement of you [MSFT] responding to
my query within 48 hours. It's been 3 days. Where's the love?

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Tom Pepper Willett

2005-08-12, 5:57 pm

Where is the agreement that says MS must respond to a public newsgroup
within 48 hours?

They are peer-to-peer newsgroups, not MS support or MSDN support.

Tom
"Roland Hall" <rolandhall@online.nospam> wrote in message
news:OFFgfW2nFHA.3920@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| "Wei-Dong XU [MSFT]" wrote in message
| news:qAs3trhnFHA.3472@TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl...
| : Since the request from VS6 is handled by FPSE, this should be one FPSE
| : issue. So I think the FPSE newsgroup should be the appropriate newsgroup
| : for this matter.
|
| Wei-Dong XU
|
| I have a MSDN Universal subscription... removing my cross-posted NGs from
| the list and then telling me to post in a group I already did, which has
yet
| to be addressed, does not satisfy our agreement of you [MSFT] responding
to
| my query within 48 hours. It's been 3 days. Where's the love?
|
| --
| Roland Hall
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| or fitness for a particular purpose. */
|
|

Roland Hall

2005-08-12, 8:48 pm

"Tom Pepper Willett" <tompepper@mvps.invalid> wrote in message
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: Where is the agreement that says MS must respond to a public newsgroup
: within 48 hours?
:
: They are peer-to-peer newsgroups, not MS support or MSDN support.

Tom...

It's peer-peer unless you have a MSDN Universal Subscription. You should
read up.

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Tom Pepper Willett

2005-08-12, 8:48 pm

I have. You're wrong. Sorry.

"Roland Hall" <rolandhall@online.nospam> wrote in message
news:%23UwtqO5nFHA.3564@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| "Tom Pepper Willett" <tompepper@mvps.invalid> wrote in message
| news:uNse7t2nFHA.3760@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
| : Where is the agreement that says MS must respond to a public newsgroup
| : within 48 hours?
| :
| : They are peer-to-peer newsgroups, not MS support or MSDN support.
|
| Tom...
|
| It's peer-peer unless you have a MSDN Universal Subscription. You should
| read up.
|
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|
|

Roland Hall

2005-08-13, 2:51 am

"Tom Pepper Willett" wrote in message
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:I have. You're wrong. Sorry.

Here you go Einstein.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/howtobuy/...al/default.aspx

Professional technical support, including unlimited usage of MSDN Managed
Newsgroups for online support with a guaranteed response time of two
business days, four phone-based support incidents, and free access to MSDN
Online Concierge for non-technical questions regarding navigation of the
MSDN site, Knowledge Base article searches, and MSDN Subscriber Downloads.

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2005-08-13, 2:51 am

About discussion groups
A discussion group (also known as a newsgroup) is a place on the Internet
where people interact by posting and reading messages about topics that are
of interest to them and the rest of a community. Each discussion group
contains a number of discussion threads, or a series of related messages.
Each individual message either responds to an earlier message, or addresses
the overall newsgroup topic in some way. In contrast to e-mail messages that
are sent to specific individuals and visible only to them, messages posted
in a discussion group are visible and available to anyone and everyone.

There are more than 100,000 discussion groups, and more are added all the
time. Each discussion group covers a particular topic, often alluded to in
its name. For example, people who use Microsoft Excel can visit and
participate in Microsoft.public.excel.charting.

Microsoft created Microsoft public discussions covering many Microsoft
products, technologies, and topics because of the value of finding out what
your peers think and getting information from people who use the same
products and technologies you use. The Microsoft public discussions have
been available to anyone on the Usenet for a number of years. Thousands of
Microsoft customers at all levels of expertise post in these groups today,
creating the content, sharing information and contributing ideas.

What are Most Valuable Professionals (MVPs)?
MVPs are individuals from around the globe recognized by Microsoft for their
demonstrated technical expertise and active participation in Microsoft
peer-to-peer communities like newsgroups and message boards. These
individuals represent a wide variety of backgrounds and professions, but
they share the basic characteristics of having very strong technical skills
in one or more Microsoft products or technology areas and the willingness to
share that knowledge with others. MVPs are recognized for their past
contributions to one or more online communities and many times are also
prominent authors, developers, industry "gurus" or speakers. They are viewed
by their peers and by Microsoft as credible experts who provide accurate
technical answers while sharing a common passion for technology.

The enthusiasm of the MVPs combined with their positive contributions
exemplifies the spirit of strong communities.

"Roland Hall" <rolandhall@online.nospam> wrote in message
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> "Tom Pepper Willett" wrote in message
> news:OnNkgQ5nFHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> :I have. You're wrong. Sorry.
>
> Here you go Einstein.
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/howtobuy/...al/default.aspx
>
> Professional technical support, including unlimited usage of MSDN Managed
> Newsgroups for online support with a guaranteed response time of two
> business days, four phone-based support incidents, and free access to MSDN
> Online Concierge for non-technical questions regarding navigation of the
> MSDN site, Knowledge Base article searches, and MSDN Subscriber Downloads.
>
> --
> Roland Hall
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> without any warranty; without even the implied warranty of merchantability
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>
>

Stefan B Rusynko

2005-08-13, 7:48 am

Suggest you read the whole agreement

That service is available only at MSDN Managed Newsgroups
see http://msdn.microsoft.com/newsgroups/ for the select few newsgroups at
http://msdn.microsoft.com/newsgroups/managed/

You are posting / crossposting to MS Public newsgroups
- which are not a part of that MSDN service
- which are peer-to-peer newsgroups w/ no guarantee of response

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"Roland Hall" <rolandhall@online.nospam> wrote in message news:uyBi$e7nFHA.2920@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
| "Tom Pepper Willett" wrote in message
| news:OnNkgQ5nFHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| :I have. You're wrong. Sorry.
|
| Here you go Einstein.
| http://msdn.microsoft.com/howtobuy/...al/default.aspx
|
| Professional technical support, including unlimited usage of MSDN Managed
| Newsgroups for online support with a guaranteed response time of two
| business days, four phone-based support incidents, and free access to MSDN
| Online Concierge for non-technical questions regarding navigation of the
| MSDN site, Knowledge Base article searches, and MSDN Subscriber Downloads.
|
| --
| Roland Hall
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| without any warranty; without even the implied warranty of merchantability
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| WSH 5.6 Documentation - http://msdn.microsoft.com/downloads/list/webdev.asp
| MSDN Library - http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp
|
|

Tom Pepper Willett

2005-08-13, 5:49 pm

Suggest you read the whole agreement

That service is available only at MSDN Managed Newsgroups
see http://msdn.microsoft.com/newsgroups/ for the select few newsgroups at
http://msdn.microsoft.com/newsgroups/managed/

You are posting / crossposting to MS Public newsgroups
- which are not a part of that MSDN service
- which are peer-to-peer newsgroups w/ no guarantee of response

Tom
"Roland Hall" <rolandhall@online.nospam> wrote in message
news:uyBi$e7nFHA.2920@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
| "Tom Pepper Willett" wrote in message
| news:OnNkgQ5nFHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| :I have. You're wrong. Sorry.
|
| Here you go Einstein.
| http://msdn.microsoft.com/howtobuy/...al/default.aspx
|
| Professional technical support, including unlimited usage of MSDN Managed
| Newsgroups for online support with a guaranteed response time of two
| business days, four phone-based support incidents, and free access to MSDN
| Online Concierge for non-technical questions regarding navigation of the
| MSDN site, Knowledge Base article searches, and MSDN Subscriber Downloads.
|
| --
| Roland Hall
| /* This information is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but
| without any warranty; without even the implied warranty of merchantability
| or fitness for a particular purpose. */
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| WSH 5.6 Documentation -
http://msdn.microsoft.com/downloads/list/webdev.asp
| MSDN Library - http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp
|
|

Roland Hall

2005-08-13, 5:49 pm

"Tom Pepper Willett" <tompepper@mvps.invalid> wrote in message
news:e2XuaXAoFHA.1444@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
: Suggest you read the whole agreement
:
: That service is available only at MSDN Managed Newsgroups
: see http://msdn.microsoft.com/newsgroups/ for the select few newsgroups at
: http://msdn.microsoft.com/newsgroups/managed/
:
: You are posting / crossposting to MS Public newsgroups
: - which are not a part of that MSDN service
: - which are peer-to-peer newsgroups w/ no guarantee of response

Tom...

I am doing as I have always done. However, do this...

click the second link you posted... and search for the subject of this
thread: FPSE - ISA - IIS - VS6
Why would a public post show up in a managed newsgroup?

In fact, using the web-based alternative, which I don't use:
Web Development/Internet Server Programming/inetserver.iis is actually
m.p.inetserver.iis. You put your mouse over it and it shows on the status
bar.

Now perhaps the frontpage and ISA ones I included are not supported as
managed but clearly iis is so I'll remove the other two. I have no idea
which group you're seeing it on but I've set the follow ups to just the iis
group.

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Roland Hall

2005-08-13, 5:49 pm

"DI" <please post@this newsgroup.com> wrote in message
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: About discussion groups

<snip>

I doubt marketing will help.

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Roland Hall

2005-08-13, 5:49 pm

"Stefan B Rusynko" wrote in message
news:Ork0%23s%23nFHA.2580@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
: Suggest you read the whole agreement
:
: That service is available only at MSDN Managed Newsgroups
: see http://msdn.microsoft.com/newsgroups/ for the select few newsgroups at
: http://msdn.microsoft.com/newsgroups/managed/
:
: You are posting / crossposting to MS Public newsgroups
: - which are not a part of that MSDN service
: - which are peer-to-peer newsgroups w/ no guarantee of response

Perhaps you should look at the newsgroups. They all point to
microsoft.public.* There is no m.managed.* groups, other anything else for
that matter. Only the isa.sdk instead of the isa.configuration and fpse
isn't listed since MSFT doesn't want to support the product anymore that's
installed on 1000s of servers but the iis one is listed. The only response
I get is, it's FPSE from Wei, a post that there is no 2-day turn-around nor
any guarantee and now managed doesn't mean m.p.*, which it clearly does.
Maybe not for 2 of the 3 I posted to but it is for one of them so the target
moves with each response. Obviously it's instantly known to be a group that
is unsupported without investigation even though IIS and FPSE work fine
without ISA in the mix, yet it's concluded without investigation to be FPSE.

BTW... the few select groups is over 200 and your and Tom's 'canned'
response is unprofessional. You've apparently answered this many times
before because it's now just a cut-paste response, probably stored on the
MVP web site.

I shouldn't have to go the web site to find out which groups are supported.
Listing some of the public groups as managed, without renaming them, is very
unorganized. Perhaps it's by design?!

Surely MSFT didn't produce a product that doesn't work with another MSFT
product?! If so, clearly there would a document to point me to, stating
that. The irony is while you and some others have taken the time to inform
me [via copy-paste] I need to stick with an unsupported group and I'm not
guaranteed a response for help, nobody seems to have the time to look at the
issue. Now that's just sad. I'll discuss it with my partner rep. Perhaps
he will be more responsive.

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Roland Hall
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Tom Pepper Willett

2005-08-13, 5:49 pm

The response was given to you because you are incorrect, and don't
understand that these newsgroups you actually posted to are not the ones
that are used to guarantee any response from MS. MS employees do not
officially monitor these newsgroups, and those that hang-out do so
unofficially and on their own time. These newsgroups are peer-to-peer and
are not official MS supports sites. Period.

You can argue till you're blue in the face, but it doesn't change the fact
that you need to be in the appropriate msdn newsgroups.

I simply don't understand why you just can't comprehend this. But, anyway,
I do wish you the best of luck in your endeavors.

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Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
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"Roland Hall" <rolandhall@online.nospam> wrote in message
news:%23X3kmGBoFHA.632@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| "Stefan B Rusynko" wrote in message
| news:Ork0%23s%23nFHA.2580@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
| : Suggest you read the whole agreement
| :
| : That service is available only at MSDN Managed Newsgroups
| : see http://msdn.microsoft.com/newsgroups/ for the select few newsgroups
at
| : http://msdn.microsoft.com/newsgroups/managed/
| :
| : You are posting / crossposting to MS Public newsgroups
| : - which are not a part of that MSDN service
| : - which are peer-to-peer newsgroups w/ no guarantee of response
|
| Perhaps you should look at the newsgroups. They all point to
| microsoft.public.* There is no m.managed.* groups, other anything else
for
| that matter. Only the isa.sdk instead of the isa.configuration and fpse
| isn't listed since MSFT doesn't want to support the product anymore that's
| installed on 1000s of servers but the iis one is listed. The only
response
| I get is, it's FPSE from Wei, a post that there is no 2-day turn-around
nor
| any guarantee and now managed doesn't mean m.p.*, which it clearly does.
| Maybe not for 2 of the 3 I posted to but it is for one of them so the
target
| moves with each response. Obviously it's instantly known to be a group
that
| is unsupported without investigation even though IIS and FPSE work fine
| without ISA in the mix, yet it's concluded without investigation to be
FPSE.
|
| BTW... the few select groups is over 200 and your and Tom's 'canned'
| response is unprofessional. You've apparently answered this many times
| before because it's now just a cut-paste response, probably stored on the
| MVP web site.
|
| I shouldn't have to go the web site to find out which groups are
supported.
| Listing some of the public groups as managed, without renaming them, is
very
| unorganized. Perhaps it's by design?!
|
| Surely MSFT didn't produce a product that doesn't work with another MSFT
| product?! If so, clearly there would a document to point me to, stating
| that. The irony is while you and some others have taken the time to
inform
| me [via copy-paste] I need to stick with an unsupported group and I'm not
| guaranteed a response for help, nobody seems to have the time to look at
the
| issue. Now that's just sad. I'll discuss it with my partner rep.
Perhaps
| he will be more responsive.
|
| --
| Roland Hall
| /* This information is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but
| without any warranty; without even the implied warranty of merchantability
| or fitness for a particular purpose. */
|
|

John Kelly

2005-08-14, 5:54 pm

Roland,

I don't know what your discussion is about, it does not matter, but I can
tell you that the person pretending to be DI is known for attempting to
start flame wars. Further than that, the history for this person only
stretches back for a few weeks and yet he displays a large knowledge of
Newsgroups...an obvious conclusion is that this person has changed their
identity because of the trouble caused when using a previous identity.

Recently I refused to back down against the bullying tactics of this person
and he claims to have added me to his kill file....We will see shortly if
that is true.

I strongly believe that this person's real name is Alan Parker from Leeds
in the UK aka Alan Middleton aka Jefreham Prestonian. A trouble maker under
all of those guises. The tactic employed is to post a couple of messages in
a news group and then pick on someone and try to score points. The man
Parker uses identity hiding software that can make him appear to live in
any part of the world he chooses...these people are not quite as clever as
they think though, it has been quite easy tracking this one.

So as not to be accused of keeping any flame war that is actually going on
between you two going, I will not respond further in this thread.

--
John Kelly
www.the-kellys.org

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John Kelly

2005-08-14, 5:54 pm

Roland,

I should have added, I am not subscribed to the newsgroup(s) that these
messages are appearing in and will not see any comments made.
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John Kelly

www.the-kellys.org
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Roland Hall

2005-08-16, 8:47 pm

"Tom Pepper Willett" wrote in message
news:u7AAZeEoFHA.708@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
: The response was given to you because you are incorrect, and don't
: understand that these newsgroups you actually posted to are not the ones
: that are used to guarantee any response from MS. MS employees do not
: officially monitor these newsgroups, and those that hang-out do so
: unofficially and on their own time. These newsgroups are peer-to-peer and
: are not official MS supports sites. Period.
:
: You can argue till you're blue in the face, but it doesn't change the fact
: that you need to be in the appropriate msdn newsgroups.
:
: I simply don't understand why you just can't comprehend this. But,
anyway,
: I do wish you the best of luck in your endeavors.

With all due respect, tell me I'm in the wrong place doesn't get me to where
I need to be. Let's make this easier for me since I'm too stupid to figure
it out.

Tell me the news server and the group to use so I can set it up in OE and
post my question. Please be specific.

news server: x
group: y

Ex.
news server: msnews.microsoft.com
group: microsoft.public.frontpage.extensions.windowsnt

Don't give me a link like before which says, Microsoft Managed Newsgroups
but then points right back here. Just a news server and group is all I ask.

Thank you.

--
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Roland Hall

2005-08-16, 8:47 pm

"John Kelly" wrote in message news:uzYJgzPoFHA.1480@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
: I don't know what your discussion is about, it does not matter, but I can
: tell you that the person pretending to be DI is known for attempting to
: start flame wars. Further than that, the history for this person only
: stretches back for a few weeks and yet he displays a large knowledge of
: Newsgroups...an obvious conclusion is that this person has changed their
: identity because of the trouble caused when using a previous identity.
:
: Recently I refused to back down against the bullying tactics of this
person
: and he claims to have added me to his kill file....We will see shortly if
: that is true.
:
: I strongly believe that this person's real name is Alan Parker from Leeds
: in the UK aka Alan Middleton aka Jefreham Prestonian. A trouble maker
under
: all of those guises. The tactic employed is to post a couple of messages
in
: a news group and then pick on someone and try to score points. The man
: Parker uses identity hiding software that can make him appear to live in
: any part of the world he chooses...these people are not quite as clever as
: they think though, it has been quite easy tracking this one.
:
: So as not to be accused of keeping any flame war that is actually going on
: between you two going, I will not respond further in this thread.

and the sign on the door reads, "Welcome to Hell!"

--
Roland Hall
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2005-08-16, 8:47 pm

May be this:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/newsgroup...s&lang=en&cr=US

"Roland Hall" <rolandhall@online.nospam> wrote in message
news:%23C9W7fsoFHA.1148@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> "Tom Pepper Willett" wrote in message
> news:u7AAZeEoFHA.708@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> : The response was given to you because you are incorrect, and don't
> : understand that these newsgroups you actually posted to are not the ones
> : that are used to guarantee any response from MS. MS employees do not
> : officially monitor these newsgroups, and those that hang-out do so
> : unofficially and on their own time. These newsgroups are peer-to-peer
> and
> : are not official MS supports sites. Period.
> :
> : You can argue till you're blue in the face, but it doesn't change the
> fact
> : that you need to be in the appropriate msdn newsgroups.
> :
> : I simply don't understand why you just can't comprehend this. But,
> anyway,
> : I do wish you the best of luck in your endeavors.
>
> With all due respect, tell me I'm in the wrong place doesn't get me to
> where
> I need to be. Let's make this easier for me since I'm too stupid to
> figure
> it out.
>
> Tell me the news server and the group to use so I can set it up in OE and
> post my question. Please be specific.
>
> news server: x
> group: y
>
> Ex.
> news server: msnews.microsoft.com
> group: microsoft.public.frontpage.extensions.windowsnt
>
> Don't give me a link like before which says, Microsoft Managed Newsgroups
> but then points right back here. Just a news server and group is all I
> ask.
>
> Thank you.
>
> --
> Roland Hall
> /* This information is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but
> without any warranty; without even the implied warranty of merchantability
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Roland Hall

2005-08-17, 5:57 pm

"DI" wrote in message news:OjPj41soFHA.3608@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
: May be this:
:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/newsgroup...s&lang=en&cr=US

Having fun?

2005-08-17, 5:57 pm

I am only trying to be helpful.
This is " microsoft public news group " it is not " MSDN Universal subscription"
a.. Professional technical support, including unlimited usage of MSDN Managed Newsgroups "
a.. http://msdn.microsoft.com/newsgroups/
a.. http://msdn.microsoft.com/newsgroups/managed/ "for online support with a guaranteed response time of two business days, four phone-based support incidents, and free access to MSDN Online Concierge for non-technical questions regarding navigation of the MSDN site, Knowledge Base article searches, and MSDN Subscriber Downloads.

<rolandhall@online.nospam> wrote in message news:uuo5Gf1oFHA.1948@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> "DI" wrote in message news:OjPj41soFHA.3608@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> : May be this:
> :
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/newsgroup...s&lang=en&cr=US
>
> Having fun?
>
>

Roland Hall

2005-08-18, 7:49 am

: "DI" <please post@this newsgroup.com> wrote in message
news:eVHhKQ2oFHA.3408@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
: I am only trying to be helpful.
: This is " microsoft public news group " it is not " MSDN Universal
subscription"
: Professional technical support, including unlimited usage of MSDN Managed
Newsgroups "
: http://msdn.microsoft.com/newsgroups/
: http://msdn.microsoft.com/newsgroups/managed/ "for online support with a
guaranteed response time of two business days, four
: phone-based support incidents, and free access to MSDN Online Concierge
for non-technical questions regarding navigation of
: the MSDN site, Knowledge Base article searches, and MSDN Subscriber
Downloads.

Several things.

1. You're good at copy/paste.
2. You're not very good at reading what you post.

The link you provided points to public.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/newsgroup...s&lang=en&cr=US

Could it be anymore clearer? microsoft.public.inetserver.iis

All of the managed newsgroups point to the public server. All you have to
do is RTFS!

3. This is not email and one-one correspondence. Nobody wants to scroll
down to the bottom of the message, find the last post, scroll up, read down,
scroll up, read down, etc. If you post below my responses and trim off what
you're not responding to it's easier for everyone to follow along.

4. If you click on that link you see this conversation. How can a public
message be seen in a managed newsgroup if they're separate? You won't see
all of it because Tom keeps removing newsgroups from the list.

Let's cut our losses, shall we? My next response will not be pleasant.
Luke is the only person who has tried to help me with my issue. I'll work
with him on it.

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