FrontPage Server Extensions for Windows - Server Extensions Administrator

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Server Extensions Administrator

Dogman

2006-02-27, 7:48 am

Good day There

I am running IIS and when I run check server extensions all is well as it
returns my results. When I run FPMMC (Front page Server extensions cosole)
and try to check the server extensions i get an error msg "The server
administration programs and the server extensions on the web server are not
compatible. The Administration program is too old to use with this server"

My IIS version is 5.1
MY MMC version is 5.1 and the console is version 2.0

I have loaded the Frontpage resource kit "fpse02_x86_ENG.exe" as i would
like to test some asp coding?

you assitance with this will be great.

?? I dont know where to go from here, I loaded the

Tom [Pepper] Willett

2006-02-27, 7:48 am

Try this: Start | Control Panel | Administrative Tools | Microsoft
SharePoint Administrator

It brings up a web based FrontPage Server Extensions 2002 Server
Administration page.

Also see:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=319476
--
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
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"Dogman" <Dogman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Good day There
>
> I am running IIS and when I run check server extensions all is well as it
> returns my results. When I run FPMMC (Front page Server extensions cosole)
> and try to check the server extensions i get an error msg "The server
> administration programs and the server extensions on the web server are
> not
> compatible. The Administration program is too old to use with this server"
>
> My IIS version is 5.1
> MY MMC version is 5.1 and the console is version 2.0
>
> I have loaded the Frontpage resource kit "fpse02_x86_ENG.exe" as i would
> like to test some asp coding?
>
> you assitance with this will be great.
>
>
> ?? I dont know where to go from here, I loaded the

Dogman

2006-02-27, 5:51 pm

Thanks, different interface lets see if it works.

The reason being is that i want to use the basic mail function in the
form,right click on form and send file through to email address and so forth,
its just that if i try on this pc i get the error that my extensions are not
loaded but will work check this out

###
FrontPage Run-Time Component Page
You have submitted a form or followed a link to a page that requires a web
server and the FrontPage Server Extensions to function properly.

This form or other FrontPage component will work correctly if you publish
this web to a web server that has the FrontPage Server Extensions installed.
####

thats the message. I want it to work locally, please help with solution Tom,
Thanks

"Tom [Pepper] Willett" wrote:

> Try this: Start | Control Panel | Administrative Tools | Microsoft
> SharePoint Administrator
>
> It brings up a web based FrontPage Server Extensions 2002 Server
> Administration page.
>
> Also see:
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=319476
> --
> Tom [Pepper] Willett
> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
> FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
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>
>
>

Ronx

2006-02-27, 5:51 pm

That text comes from the file _derived/nortbots.htm.

nortbots.htm only appears in four cases:

1) You are testing on a disc-based website, including a FrontPage
disc-based web that is being browsed through a web-server.

2) You are testing on a website that does not have server extensions
installed or running.

3) The site (or form page) was FTPed from a disc-based web, or
published using a FTP address for the destination, or published to a
file system destination including a network share or UNC address (like
\\machinename\path\webname). Publish must be to a URL of the form
http://example.com

4) There is a bug associated with FrontPage98 which causes this
problem.
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/

"Dogman" <Dogman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks, different interface lets see if it works.
>
> The reason being is that i want to use the basic mail function in
> the
> form,right click on form and send file through to email address and
> so forth,
> its just that if i try on this pc i get the error that my extensions
> are not
> loaded but will work check this out
>
> ###
> FrontPage Run-Time Component Page
> You have submitted a form or followed a link to a page that requires
> a web
> server and the FrontPage Server Extensions to function properly.
>
> This form or other FrontPage component will work correctly if you
> publish
> this web to a web server that has the FrontPage Server Extensions
> installed.
> ####
>
> thats the message. I want it to work locally, please help with
> solution Tom,
> Thanks
>
>
>
> "Tom [Pepper] Willett" wrote:
>

Dogman

2006-02-28, 7:49 am

Thanks Tom, Ronx for the feed back

I normally play with dreamweaver, this PC dont have it and the site was put
together in Frontpage. I am not fimilliar with the whole set up, when u say
disc based I am not sure, do i have to configure the FP extensions for an
smtp or ???.

As I say i am not to fimilliar with front page and I'm learning as i'm going

Thanks for assistance

"Ronx" wrote:

> That text comes from the file _derived/nortbots.htm.
>
> nortbots.htm only appears in four cases:
>
> 1) You are testing on a disc-based website, including a FrontPage
> disc-based web that is being browsed through a web-server.
>
> 2) You are testing on a website that does not have server extensions
> installed or running.
>
> 3) The site (or form page) was FTPed from a disc-based web, or
> published using a FTP address for the destination, or published to a
> file system destination including a network share or UNC address (like
> \\machinename\path\webname). Publish must be to a URL of the form
> http://example.com
>
> 4) There is a bug associated with FrontPage98 which causes this
> problem.
> --
> Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
> Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
> FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
>
> "Dogman" <Dogman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:FBEA7718-9264-4922-98BD-259378AD9937@microsoft.com...
>
>
>

Ronx

2006-02-28, 7:49 am

A server based web is one you open using an http:// address, such as
http://www.example.com

A disc based web is one you open in FrontPage using a file system
location, such as e:\mywebs\webname.
This is still a disc based web even if it is used by the web server as
the source of the finished website.

You can build webs in FrontPage using either system, but for testing
(or running the web) you must be using a server based web if the site
includes any FrontPage run time components, such as hit counter,
guestbook, discussion web, custom linkbars, forms (that use the
extensions as a form handler).
Also, any web that uses run-time components must either be
built/edited on a server (using the http:// address to open the web in
FrontPage) or published to the server using http publishing, not FTP.

You will have to configure the extensions for SMTP since you have a
form in the web that sends data through email.
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/

"Dogman" <Dogman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks Tom, Ronx for the feed back
>
> I normally play with dreamweaver, this PC dont have it and the site
> was put
> together in Frontpage. I am not fimilliar with the whole set up,
> when u say
> disc based I am not sure, do i have to configure the FP extensions
> for an
> smtp or ???.
>
> As I say i am not to fimilliar with front page and I'm learning as
> i'm going
>
> Thanks for assistance
>
> "Ronx" wrote:
>

Dogman

2006-02-28, 7:49 am

Thanks Ronx

I run for test purposes via http:// as with asp it wont work otherwise. I
can send mail using a script normally, (see below) bt for some reason I am
running int script errors now. mmmmm

will just go back to check basic configs and so forth. I also have to focus
attention else where so will get back to later if you dont mind, as i will
try this at home.

<%
Dim strFullName, strEmailAddress, strTelephoneNo, strFax, strMessage, strMsg

strFullName = Request.Form("txtName")
strTelephoneNo = Request.Form("txtContactTelephone")
strFax= Request.Form("txtFax")
strEmailAddress = Request.Form("txtEmail")
strMessage = Request.Form("txtMessage")

Set Mail = Server.CreateObject("CDONTS.NewMail")
Mail.From = strEmailAddress
Mail.To = "takalani@corpdial.co.za"
Mail.Subject = "Takalani Web Responses"
strMsg = "Full Name: " & FullName & vbCrLf & "Telephone No: " & TelephoneNo
& vbCrLf & "Fax No: " & Fax & vbCrLf & "Email Address: " & EmailAddress &
vbCrLf & "Message: " & Message & vbCrLf
Mail.Body = strMsg
Mail.Send
Response.Redirect "Index.htm"
%>

Thanks a mill for the support

"Ronx" wrote:

> A server based web is one you open using an http:// address, such as
> http://www.example.com
>
> A disc based web is one you open in FrontPage using a file system
> location, such as e:\mywebs\webname.
> This is still a disc based web even if it is used by the web server as
> the source of the finished website.
>
> You can build webs in FrontPage using either system, but for testing
> (or running the web) you must be using a server based web if the site
> includes any FrontPage run time components, such as hit counter,
> guestbook, discussion web, custom linkbars, forms (that use the
> extensions as a form handler).
> Also, any web that uses run-time components must either be
> built/edited on a server (using the http:// address to open the web in
> FrontPage) or published to the server using http publishing, not FTP.
>
> You will have to configure the extensions for SMTP since you have a
> form in the web that sends data through email.
> --
> Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
> Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
> FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
>
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>
>
>

Stefan B Rusynko

2006-03-01, 7:56 am

Dogman

2006-03-03, 6:18 pm

Adam G

2006-03-08, 2:48 am

Ron,
I can't seem to post a new question, so I'll try a reply here.
- Win2003 Server w/ FP2003 and 2002 Extensions installed
- Email set up through administration appears to be set.. (correctly ??)
- 'thisweb' is set up as a virtualy web under default web
- I do get the component error message in FP2003
I'm also getting this problem, and I can't get it to go away. I've always
opened as 'disc based', pointing to c:\web\thisweb. Your response indicates
that this is an incorrect way if I want to test my forms. For kicks I tried
to open http://machinename/thisweb, but it failed as not found.
Am I just simply missing something obvious or is it something else?
Thanks in advance for any assistance.
-Adam

"Ronx" wrote:

> A server based web is one you open using an http:// address, such as
> http://www.example.com
>
> A disc based web is one you open in FrontPage using a file system
> location, such as e:\mywebs\webname.
> This is still a disc based web even if it is used by the web server as
> the source of the finished website.
>
> You can build webs in FrontPage using either system, but for testing
> (or running the web) you must be using a server based web if the site
> includes any FrontPage run time components, such as hit counter,
> guestbook, discussion web, custom linkbars, forms (that use the
> extensions as a form handler).
> Also, any web that uses run-time components must either be
> built/edited on a server (using the http:// address to open the web in
> FrontPage) or published to the server using http publishing, not FTP.
>
> You will have to configure the extensions for SMTP since you have a
> form in the web that sends data through email.
> --
> Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
> Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
> FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
>
> "Dogman" <Dogman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:FF3DF6BD-D0F6-435E-9485-23E3F3FF0D40@microsoft.com...
>
>
>

Ronx

2006-03-08, 7:50 am

Windows Server 2003 is a locked down environment, and, for websites,
everything you use has to be enabled first.
On the server, open IIS MMC (Start->Administrative Tools->Internet
Information Services (IIS) Manager) and expand the folder tree.
Open the folder Web Service Extensions, and ensure that FrontPage
Server Extensions is allowed. If not, click on the item and click the
Allow button. (You may have to click the Extended tag to see the
Allow button.)
Close IIS MMC.

Start->Administrative Tools->Microsoft Sharepoint Administrator
The opening page gives a list of all websites on the server, check
that your site is on the list, and it has either Extend or
Administration link. If the link is Extend, then server extensions
have not been installed - click Extend to install the extensions. If
there is a version number for your web starting with 6.x, then you
have a Sharepoint Services web, not a FrontPage Extensions web.
Otherwise, click Administration.
On the next page, click Go to Administration for websitename, login if
necessary.
Scroll down to Server Health, and run Check Server Health, and allow
all checks and repairs.

This should correct whatever is wrong. It is possible that opening
the web as a disc based web has corrupted part of the extensions.

FYI, on Windows 2003, I never use the default web, always leaving it
as set by Windows IIS installation, and create virtual servers for all
my sites.

A rough guide to setting up the SMTP server and configuring extensions
for SMTP can be found at www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp/b/smtp/
Note: where you see click on Virtual Servers -> Default web site
Administration
click on your own website instead of the Default web site.
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/

"Adam G" <AdamG@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:383677FA-D1EA-4FA8-80B3-A382CCCBAD30@microsoft.com...[vbcol=seagreen]
> Ron,
> I can't seem to post a new question, so I'll try a reply here.
> - Win2003 Server w/ FP2003 and 2002 Extensions installed
> - Email set up through administration appears to be set.. (correctly
> ??)
> - 'thisweb' is set up as a virtualy web under default web
> - I do get the component error message in FP2003
> I'm also getting this problem, and I can't get it to go away. I've
> always
> opened as 'disc based', pointing to c:\web\thisweb. Your response
> indicates
> that this is an incorrect way if I want to test my forms. For kicks
> I tried
> to open http://machinename/thisweb, but it failed as not found.
> Am I just simply missing something obvious or is it something else?
> Thanks in advance for any assistance.
> -Adam
>
> "Ronx" wrote:
>

Adam G

2006-03-08, 7:50 am

I forgot to mention:
- Server Extensions are 'Allowed'
- I also tried to 'Allow' all of those available
- I also restarted the server after each change
- Server roles: File, Application (NOT MAIL, I point to my Internet
connection's SMTP server)

However, I do NOT believe that I have SharePoint installed (unless I chose
by accident). Does this have to be installed?

I will also try to move my web. I've had bad luck when I have tried to move
it out of the Default web.

Thanks in advance,
-Adam

"Ronx" wrote:

> Windows Server 2003 is a locked down environment, and, for websites,
> everything you use has to be enabled first.
> On the server, open IIS MMC (Start->Administrative Tools->Internet
> Information Services (IIS) Manager) and expand the folder tree.
> Open the folder Web Service Extensions, and ensure that FrontPage
> Server Extensions is allowed. If not, click on the item and click the
> Allow button. (You may have to click the Extended tag to see the
> Allow button.)
> Close IIS MMC.
>
> Start->Administrative Tools->Microsoft Sharepoint Administrator
> The opening page gives a list of all websites on the server, check
> that your site is on the list, and it has either Extend or
> Administration link. If the link is Extend, then server extensions
> have not been installed - click Extend to install the extensions. If
> there is a version number for your web starting with 6.x, then you
> have a Sharepoint Services web, not a FrontPage Extensions web.
> Otherwise, click Administration.
> On the next page, click Go to Administration for websitename, login if
> necessary.
> Scroll down to Server Health, and run Check Server Health, and allow
> all checks and repairs.
>
> This should correct whatever is wrong. It is possible that opening
> the web as a disc based web has corrupted part of the extensions.
>
> FYI, on Windows 2003, I never use the default web, always leaving it
> as set by Windows IIS installation, and create virtual servers for all
> my sites.
>
> A rough guide to setting up the SMTP server and configuring extensions
> for SMTP can be found at www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp/b/smtp/
> Note: where you see click on Virtual Servers -> Default web site
> Administration
> click on your own website instead of the Default web site.
> --
> Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
> Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
> FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
>
> "Adam G" <AdamG@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:383677FA-D1EA-4FA8-80B3-A382CCCBAD30@microsoft.com...
>
>
>

Ronx

2006-03-08, 5:53 pm

No, sharepoint does not need to be installed.

One thought - if your web is in a Virtual folder then that may be why
the extensions do not work. The folder has to be *in* the default web
(as a subweb) for it to appear as a folder in the default web.
To avoid using a subweb set up a virtual server, not a virtual folder.
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/

"Adam G" <AdamG@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C4A864EC-55C4-483A-8AC7-30152A8F5403@microsoft.com...[vbcol=seagreen]
>I forgot to mention:
> - Server Extensions are 'Allowed'
> - I also tried to 'Allow' all of those available
> - I also restarted the server after each change
> - Server roles: File, Application (NOT MAIL, I point to my Internet
> connection's SMTP server)
>
> However, I do NOT believe that I have SharePoint installed (unless I
> chose
> by accident). Does this have to be installed?
>
> I will also try to move my web. I've had bad luck when I have tried
> to move
> it out of the Default web.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> -Adam
>
> "Ronx" wrote:
>

Adam G

2006-03-08, 5:53 pm

I'm not at my machine at the moment, but... I did a rt click, on the default
web site, new virtual directory. I would then point it to the same directory
(c:\web\thisweb) that FP2003 points to. Is this what you mean by *in*? If
so, any other thoughts?

Is there another way to create the subweb or do I actually need to create it
from FP2003?

Thanks in advance,
-Adam

"Ronx" wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
> No, sharepoint does not need to be installed.
>
> One thought - if your web is in a Virtual folder then that may be why
> the extensions do not work. The folder has to be *in* the default web
> (as a subweb) for it to appear as a folder in the default web.
> To avoid using a subweb set up a virtual server, not a virtual folder.
> --
> Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
> Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
> FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
>
> "Adam G" <AdamG@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C4A864EC-55C4-483A-8AC7-30152A8F5403@microsoft.com...

Ronx

2006-03-08, 5:53 pm

No.
What you are doing is creating a virtual directory. FrontPage
extensions will not work (at least not in a straightforward manner)
with virtual directories.

Either, Open the default web site in FrontPage, then create a subweb
for your web, and import the files from c:\web\thisweb
or better, open IIS MMC and create a new server, and choose
C:\web\thisweb as the root directory. You will either have to use
Host Headers for this web, or add a new IP address to the server, and
use the new IP address. Then extend the web and configure the
extensions.
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/

"Adam G" <AdamG@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:58C8CDB3-F2CD-408D-9B65-5B5EC5BFF603@microsoft.com...[vbcol=seagreen]
> I'm not at my machine at the moment, but... I did a rt click, on
> the default
> web site, new virtual directory. I would then point it to the same
> directory
> (c:\web\thisweb) that FP2003 points to. Is this what you mean by
> *in*? If
> so, any other thoughts?
>
> Is there another way to create the subweb or do I actually need to
> create it
> from FP2003?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> -Adam
>
> "Ronx" wrote:
>

Adam G

2006-03-09, 8:02 am

Ron.
Here is the latest (I did this prior to seeing your post).
- I created a new Web same level as Default
-- changed the port # (ex:8080) (dflt host, no IP# chg)
-- set FP extensions
- launched FP2003
- opened http://machine:8080
- appeared to open fine
- tried to add email addr, got error about extensions not loaded.
- I tried various other combo's, no luck.

Now, after thinking about it, is there something in my FP2003 that I may
need to set. I was trying to figure out why I'm getting the error in FP2003
prior to me even saving the page. I get the error (no server extensions)
right after I set the form properties, which happens before I have set up a
web in IIS.

What do you think?

-Adam

"Ronx" wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
> No.
> What you are doing is creating a virtual directory. FrontPage
> extensions will not work (at least not in a straightforward manner)
> with virtual directories.
>
> Either, Open the default web site in FrontPage, then create a subweb
> for your web, and import the files from c:\web\thisweb
> or better, open IIS MMC and create a new server, and choose
> C:\web\thisweb as the root directory. You will either have to use
> Host Headers for this web, or add a new IP address to the server, and
> use the new IP address. Then extend the web and configure the
> extensions.
> --
> Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
> Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
> FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
>
> "Adam G" <AdamG@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:58C8CDB3-F2CD-408D-9B65-5B5EC5BFF603@microsoft.com...

Ronx

2006-03-09, 5:52 pm

The extensions are port specific. To use them on port 8080, they must
be installed on port 8080.

To avoid the error in FrontPage, you must open the web in FrontPage,
then create the form. If you can open the web using
http://machine:8080 as the web address then the extensions are
installed.
Try running server health, and see if that makes a difference.

At this point I am at the limit of my knowledge of installing
extensions.
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/

"Adam G" <AdamG@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:69705074-E24E-4E84-ACC2-6348AE1B2DF7@microsoft.com...[vbcol=seagreen]
> Ron.
> Here is the latest (I did this prior to seeing your post).
> - I created a new Web same level as Default
> -- changed the port # (ex:8080) (dflt host, no IP# chg)
> -- set FP extensions
> - launched FP2003
> - opened http://machine:8080
> - appeared to open fine
> - tried to add email addr, got error about extensions not loaded.
> - I tried various other combo's, no luck.
>
> Now, after thinking about it, is there something in my FP2003 that I
> may
> need to set. I was trying to figure out why I'm getting the error
> in FP2003
> prior to me even saving the page. I get the error (no server
> extensions)
> right after I set the form properties, which happens before I have
> set up a
> web in IIS.
>
> What do you think?
>
> -Adam
>
> "Ronx" wrote:
>

Adam G

2006-03-09, 5:52 pm

Ron,

http://machine:8080 appears to display/work just fine

When I tried to publish to 'http://machine:8080', I could connect, but not
publish, reason given was invalid to a exeutable web (I then chg'd to script
only, still didn't work). However, if I publish to my internet host, the
forms work just fine. It looks like I still got something messed up.

I will try to re-write our thread here and post it as a new question.

Thanks for the help,

-Adam

"Ronx" wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
> The extensions are port specific. To use them on port 8080, they must
> be installed on port 8080.
>
> To avoid the error in FrontPage, you must open the web in FrontPage,
> then create the form. If you can open the web using
> http://machine:8080 as the web address then the extensions are
> installed.
> Try running server health, and see if that makes a difference.
>
> At this point I am at the limit of my knowledge of installing
> extensions.
> --
> Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
> Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
> FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
>
> "Adam G" <AdamG@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:69705074-E24E-4E84-ACC2-6348AE1B2DF7@microsoft.com...