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jlpingree

2006-04-01, 2:39 pm

I have set up three 2003 web servers and I am having nothing but PROBLEMS
with FP2002. I have never been so fustrated with a piece of software in my
entire 18 years of programming, development and management of network
services. I have no idea way anyone would design such a SUCK interface on a
critical piece of software and to-boot absolutly no way of figuring out why
some feature in the software work and others don't. FP2002 SE is a COMPLETE
JOKE! I will have to ditch my efforts to upgrade to windows 2003 and stay
with my Windows 2000 servers. Whle FP2000 SE is brain dead software it at
least WORKS! My boss wants us to start evaluating Linux with Apache... To
bad I can't argue with him about going that direction!!!


Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]

2006-04-01, 2:39 pm

Calm down, take a deep breath, and tell us what problems you're having with
FrontPage.

--

~ Kathleen Anderson
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
Spider Web Woman Designs
web: http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/resources/
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/




"jlpingree" <junk#dmdservices.com> wrote in message
news:%23cMmbIOVGHA.328@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>I have set up three 2003 web servers and I am having nothing but PROBLEMS
>with FP2002. I have never been so fustrated with a piece of software in my
>entire 18 years of programming, development and management of network
>services. I have no idea way anyone would design such a SUCK interface on a
>critical piece of software and to-boot absolutly no way of figuring out why
>some feature in the software work and others don't. FP2002 SE is a COMPLETE
>JOKE! I will have to ditch my efforts to upgrade to windows 2003 and stay
>with my Windows 2000 servers. Whle FP2000 SE is brain dead software it at
>least WORKS! My boss wants us to start evaluating Linux with Apache... To
>bad I can't argue with him about going that direction!!!
>



jlpingree

2006-04-01, 2:39 pm

My first mistake was installing the FPE available for download. I just
learned that I should have loaded FPE from the CD instead. So I have
uninstalled the downloaded version FPE and reinstalled FPE from the server
install CD. Ok that at least got web pages browsable that weren't
previously. Now I only need to get a couple of developers that are using VS
2005 connected. That is where we are currently.

I think the crux of our problem has been Sharepoint services. That service
appernetly got installed from the downloaded version of FPE and from what I
understand would not have been installed if I had installed FPE from the
server CD. Uninstalling the downloaded version of FPE appearently does not
uninstall Sharepoint services as it is still on this one particular machine.
I did not see an option for not installing it during the setup of the FPE CD
version. So I assume that it never got uninstalled. I would like to remove
it however there doesn't seem to be a way to do this. We do not need, nor do
we want Sharepoint services on this web server. Is there a way to remove it?

Aside from that issue we are currently seeing is a permission error.
HTTP/1.1 403 forbidden. We are getting this permission error whilst tring to
connect directly to the web site via VS 2005. FPE has been installed on this
web site and I have manually added a page to this site and we are able to
browse it without issue. Also, we do have the the .Net 2.0 framework
installed and we do have the .NET web services enabled.

We simply cannot get connected via VS 2005. We are never even given a chance
to provide any creditials when attempting to connect and create the new VS
2005 site. We would like to create a new project directly in the root
folder. So in VS we create New Project and point it directly to the web site
(example: http://www.our_Test_Site.com ) and yes DNS and related other
protocol setting have all been tested and everything points to where it is
supposed to. Our clients machines resolve the address without issue.

Not that is matters as credentials are never asked for, but the person
connecting is on another network however that person has administrative
rights on the domain where the web server exists... if only FPE would ask
VS to provide the credentials!!

I just need a little kick in the right direction. Thanks for calming me
down :-)


"Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]" <spiderwebwoman@mvps.org> wrote in
message news:uWmtlIPVGHA.4960@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Calm down, take a deep breath, and tell us what problems you're having
> with FrontPage.
>
> --
>
> ~ Kathleen Anderson
> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
> Spider Web Woman Designs
> web: http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/resources/
> FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
>
>
>
>
> "jlpingree" <junk#dmdservices.com> wrote in message
> news:%23cMmbIOVGHA.328@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>
>



Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]

2006-04-01, 2:39 pm

If it were me, I would start over - and believe me, I have done that a
number of times. Uninstall the Server Extensions and uninstall IIS. Reboot.
Then install IIS and the server extensions from the W2K3 CD.

--

~ Kathleen Anderson
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
Spider Web Woman Designs
web: http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/resources/


"jlpingree" <junk#dmdservices.com> wrote in message
news:u5SCXlPVGHA.4340@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> My first mistake was installing the FPE available for download. I just
> learned that I should have loaded FPE from the CD instead. So I have
> uninstalled the downloaded version FPE and reinstalled FPE from the server
> install CD. Ok that at least got web pages browsable that weren't
> previously. Now I only need to get a couple of developers that are using
> VS 2005 connected. That is where we are currently.
>
> I think the crux of our problem has been Sharepoint services. That service
> appernetly got installed from the downloaded version of FPE and from what
> I understand would not have been installed if I had installed FPE from the
> server CD. Uninstalling the downloaded version of FPE appearently does not
> uninstall Sharepoint services as it is still on this one particular
> machine. I did not see an option for not installing it during the setup of
> the FPE CD version. So I assume that it never got uninstalled. I would
> like to remove it however there doesn't seem to be a way to do this. We do
> not need, nor do we want Sharepoint services on this web server. Is there
> a way to remove it?
>
> Aside from that issue we are currently seeing is a permission error.
> HTTP/1.1 403 forbidden. We are getting this permission error whilst tring
> to connect directly to the web site via VS 2005. FPE has been installed on
> this web site and I have manually added a page to this site and we are
> able to browse it without issue. Also, we do have the the .Net 2.0
> framework installed and we do have the .NET web services enabled.
>
> We simply cannot get connected via VS 2005. We are never even given a
> chance to provide any creditials when attempting to connect and create the
> new VS 2005 site. We would like to create a new project directly in the
> root folder. So in VS we create New Project and point it directly to the
> web site (example: http://www.our_Test_Site.com ) and yes DNS and related
> other protocol setting have all been tested and everything points to where
> it is supposed to. Our clients machines resolve the address without issue.
>
> Not that is matters as credentials are never asked for, but the person
> connecting is on another network however that person has administrative
> rights on the domain where the web server exists... if only FPE would ask
> VS to provide the credentials!!
>
> I just need a little kick in the right direction. Thanks for calming me
> down :-)
>
>
> "Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]" <spiderwebwoman@mvps.org> wrote in
> message news:uWmtlIPVGHA.4960@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>
>



Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]

2006-04-01, 2:39 pm

Also, here's an article that may help: Using FrontPage 2003 and Visual
Studio .NET Together
http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/un...p_c43615101.asp

--

~ Kathleen Anderson
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
Spider Web Woman Designs
web: http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/resources/


"Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]" <spiderwebwoman@mvps.org> wrote in
message news:OtBNgQSVGHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> If it were me, I would start over - and believe me, I have done that a
> number of times. Uninstall the Server Extensions and uninstall IIS.
> Reboot. Then install IIS and the server extensions from the W2K3 CD.
>
> --
>
> ~ Kathleen Anderson
> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
> Spider Web Woman Designs
> web: http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/resources/
>
>
> "jlpingree" <junk#dmdservices.com> wrote in message
> news:u5SCXlPVGHA.4340@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>
>



jlpingree

2006-04-02, 7:20 pm

The issue occured because I installed the BITS extensions after installing
IIS. See http://support.microsoft.com/?id=832916

As you suggested I had to completely uninstall IIS and BITS and then
reinstall them together from the installation CD.

Thanks for the info Kathleen

"Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]" <spiderwebwoman@mvps.org> wrote in
message news:e7x1KTSVGHA.4348@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Also, here's an article that may help: Using FrontPage 2003 and Visual
> Studio .NET Together
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/un...p_c43615101.asp
>
> --
>
> ~ Kathleen Anderson
> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
> Spider Web Woman Designs
> web: http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/resources/
>
>
> "Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]" <spiderwebwoman@mvps.org> wrote in
> message news:OtBNgQSVGHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>
>



Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]

2006-04-02, 7:20 pm

Thanks for the feedback - glad it worked for you.

--

~ Kathleen Anderson
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
Spider Web Woman Designs
web: http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/resources/


"jlpingree" <junk#dmdservices.com> wrote in message
news:eZJde%23mVGHA.1348@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> The issue occured because I installed the BITS extensions after installing
> IIS. See http://support.microsoft.com/?id=832916
>
> As you suggested I had to completely uninstall IIS and BITS and then
> reinstall them together from the installation CD.
>
> Thanks for the info Kathleen
>
> "Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]" <spiderwebwoman@mvps.org> wrote in
> message news:e7x1KTSVGHA.4348@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>
>



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