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Mike Holdorf

2004-10-26, 5:48 pm

Has anyone out there created Multiple MessageBoxes in their implementation?
I guess we're trying to figure out when do you create Multiple MessageBoxes
and what advantage does it give you?

Adding a new MessageBox is pretty simple, but besides the regular backing up
of the transaction logs and the database, what other things to we need to
consider for this?

The reason for asking is that we currently are processing over 500,000
messages per night and this will only grow. Our MessageBox Transaction Logs
run every 15 minutes, but the backups not take longer that 15 minutes!
Could Multiple MessageBoxes help us out in this scenario.

Mike Holdorf


Matt Milner

2004-10-26, 5:48 pm

Message boxes are for scalability. If you add message boxes, you should be
adding SQL servers as well. So, yes, adding message boxes will help you
scale, but at a cost. Also, keep in mind that if you are going to add, you
should go from 1 to 3, because having 2 message boxes doesn't help you out
since one is the controller and the second is processing (you still only
have one processing).

I'd say you are better off upgrading your SQL server to a beefier machine so
that your processes take less time. Add processors, add memory, upgrade to
a faster disk system. You'll need to do some investigation on your system
to figure out what will help you most.

But, just adding message boxes on one sql server box would not, in my
opinion, help you out. I'd be very surprised if it did anything but degrade
performance.

matt


"Mike Holdorf" <mholdorf@sark.com> wrote in message
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> Has anyone out there created Multiple MessageBoxes in their
> implementation? I guess we're trying to figure out when do you create
> Multiple MessageBoxes and what advantage does it give you?
>
> Adding a new MessageBox is pretty simple, but besides the regular backing
> up of the transaction logs and the database, what other things to we need
> to consider for this?
>
> The reason for asking is that we currently are processing over 500,000
> messages per night and this will only grow. Our MessageBox Transaction
> Logs run every 15 minutes, but the backups not take longer that 15
> minutes! Could Multiple MessageBoxes help us out in this scenario.
>
> Mike Holdorf
>



Kevin Tusler

2004-10-27, 5:49 pm

I would agree with Matt. Adding a second message box on the same server
can be detrimental as you induce the additonal overhead of DTS. We
recommend scaling up on the database server before you scale out. Then as
Matt says, we recommend going to 3 message boxes.

Kevin

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