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How to create Publish and Subscribe apps using BizTalk?
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| Ron Simmons 2004-04-22, 3:37 pm |
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We are in the process of designing some major enhancements to a large application and we see a perfect fit for a "Publish and Subscribe" solution. I've looked at the BizTalk documentation and see precious little about Publish and Subscribe save PubSubAda
pter class documentation (thin). Can anybody point me to information (doc, white paper, best practice, etc) describing how to create Publish and Subscribe applications using BizTalk?
Thanks in advance,
Ron Simmons
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| Andrew Filev 2004-04-22, 4:38 pm |
| What do you want to publish?
If you are speaking about documents, take a look at SharePoint.
There are also notifications services for SQL Server 2000, which provide
more general approach to Pub-Sub apps.
On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 12:36:06 -0700, Ron Simmons
<anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> We are in the process of designing some major enhancements to a large
> application and we see a perfect fit for a "Publish and Subscribe"
> solution. I've looked at the BizTalk documentation and see precious
> little about Publish and Subscribe save PubSubAdapter class
> documentation (thin). Can anybody point me to information (doc, white
> paper, best practice, etc) describing how to create Publish and
> Subscribe applications using BizTalk?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Ron Simmons
>
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| richard 2004-04-22, 5:37 pm |
| Hi Ron,
I'm not sure which version of BizTalk you're using, but you may find the
following useful:
Publish-Subscribe Toolkit Documentation for Microsoft BizTalk Server 2002
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d....asp?frame=true
and also the following article
Implementing common integration patterns with BizTalk Server 2004, By Jason
Shantz
http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=44034&DE=1
hope this helps
richard
"Ron Simmons" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> We are in the process of designing some major enhancements to a large
application and we see a perfect fit for a "Publish and Subscribe" solution.
I've looked at the BizTalk documentation and see precious little about
Publish and Subscribe save PubSubAdapter class documentation (thin). Can
anybody point me to information (doc, white paper, best practice, etc)
describing how to create Publish and Subscribe applications using BizTalk?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Ron Simmons
>
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| Ron Simmons 2004-04-22, 6:38 pm |
| Thanks Richard, this does indeed help.
I am using BTS2004. I know that so much has changed between BTS2002 and 2004 that I wonder about the applicability of the "Publish-Subscribe Toolkit Documentation for Microsoft BizTalk Server 2002". Do you know if there is a 2004 version of same? This
would be EXACTLY what I am looking for.
Ron
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| Christof 2004-04-22, 6:38 pm |
| I've done some work in an attempt to explain exactly what you need.
Please look into this and let me know if this helped you.
http://www.microsoft.com/belux/NL/m...ro_bts2004.mspx
Kind regards,
Christof
"Ron Simmons" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks Richard, this does indeed help.
>
> I am using BTS2004. I know that so much has changed between BTS2002 and
2004 that I wonder about the applicability of the "Publish-Subscribe Toolkit
Documentation for Microsoft BizTalk Server 2002". Do you know if there is a
2004 version of same? This would be EXACTLY what I am looking for.
>
> Ron
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| Ron Simmons 2004-04-27, 6:36 pm |
| Christof,
Thank you for the information. Good article!
I'm not sure I fully grasp some of the concepts.
Lets say that I have a server application somewhere that is publishing
messages to a receive port.
I also have 1-n instances of a client application on 1-n workstations that
once started need to subscribe to the messages being created by my server
application. Your article states: "the subscriber subscribes itself with
the engine using a filter.". What exactly does this look like? How is this
done? Does each instance of my client application have to have a Send Port
configured to so that BTS can route the message to it?
A lot of questions, I know, but I really want to understand this.
Many thanks in advance,
Ron
"Christof" <bts2004communityfeedback (at) hotmail (dot) com> wrote in
message news:OsCCPiLKEHA.2884@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> I've done some work in an attempt to explain exactly what you need.
> Please look into this and let me know if this helped you.
>
http://www.microsoft.com/belux/NL/m...ssens/intro_bts
2004.mspx
>
> Kind regards,
> Christof
>
> "Ron Simmons" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:8E2C7ADD-7657-455B-AEE3-E06E1B46FE59@microsoft.com...
> 2004 that I wonder about the applicability of the "Publish-Subscribe
Toolkit
> Documentation for Microsoft BizTalk Server 2002". Do you know if there is
a
> 2004 version of same? This would be EXACTLY what I am looking for.
>
>
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| Christof 2004-04-28, 7:35 am |
| Please see inline.
Kind regards,
Christof
"Ron Simmons" <ron.simmons@eds.com> wrote in message
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> Christof,
>
> Thank you for the information. Good article!
>
> I'm not sure I fully grasp some of the concepts.
>
> Lets say that I have a server application somewhere that is publishing
> messages to a receive port.
The only way to 'publish' messages to a receive port is through an adapter,
remember? To enable your server application to submit to a receive port, it
has to use any of the available transports (SOAP, HTTP, ... or your custom
one).
> I also have 1-n instances of a client application on 1-n workstations that
> once started need to subscribe to the messages being created by my server
> application. Your article states: "the subscriber subscribes itself with
> the engine using a filter.". What exactly does this look like?
Please open up VS.NET after installing BTS2004. You will find the biztalk
explorer inthere. Create a new send port. Among its properties you will
find a "filter". This is the subscription I'm talking about.
Most of the scenarios never ever need dynamic subscriptions. If you want
applications to "dynamically subscribe" to messages, you will need to dive
into the BizTalk Server WMI stuff. This allows to create subscriptions 'on
the fly', although I'm not sure whether that's a good design decission!
Send ports certainly weren't made with that kind of scenario in mind. They
are typically created at deploy time, rather then 'on demand'.
How is this
> done? Does each instance of my client application have to have a Send
Port
> configured to so that BTS can route the message to it?
>
> A lot of questions, I know, but I really want to understand this.
>
> Many thanks in advance,
> Ron
>
> "Christof" <bts2004communityfeedback (at) hotmail (dot) com> wrote in
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