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Custom pipeline to submit documents to web services
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| Dan Tharp 2005-05-27, 5:50 pm |
| I'm wanting to explore the possibilities of writing a custom send pipeline
to submit documents to a web service, rather than submitting these documents
via orchestration (ie: my "'bout ready to give up on consuming web services"
post dated 5/26/2005 in microsoft.public.biztalk.orchestration).
Does anyone have any advice (for or against) this approach?
Any caveats or issues you've encounterd with send pipelines submitting
documents to web services?
Any good "how to" links you know of for walking someone through the process
of building a custom send pipeline?
Thanks!
Dan
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| Yossi Dahan 2005-05-31, 7:47 am |
| I think using pipeline components to deliver messages is a wrong approach.
after all this is exactly what adapters are for.
Either use the WSE adapter which, as I've just discovered through the
newsgroups supports calling web services in a messaging only scenario or
write you own custom adapter.
pipelines are not meant to deliver the message to the endpoint.
A pipeline component doesn't have what it takes to manage the end point. it
cannot use the retry mechanism, it cannot use the error handling
capabilities provided to an adapter (suspend message,
MoveToSecondaryTransport etc)
Yossi Dahan
"Dan Tharp" <dtharp@NOSPAMPLEASEgdtr.com> wrote in message
news:eioVB4tYFHA.252@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> I'm wanting to explore the possibilities of writing a custom send pipeline
> to submit documents to a web service, rather than submitting these
> documents via orchestration (ie: my "'bout ready to give up on consuming
> web services" post dated 5/26/2005 in
> microsoft.public.biztalk.orchestration).
>
> Does anyone have any advice (for or against) this approach?
> Any caveats or issues you've encounterd with send pipelines submitting
> documents to web services?
> Any good "how to" links you know of for walking someone through the
> process of building a custom send pipeline?
>
> Thanks!
> Dan
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| Dan Tharp 2005-05-31, 6:01 pm |
| Thanks for the feedback, Yossi.
I would really love to see how to get WSE to work in a messaging-only
scenario, but from what I've heard, it's not doable (and I've not been able
to get it to work).
Have you been successful in passing off a document to a web service via
messaging-only WSE?
If so, how did you do it?
How did you get the message passed as a parameter to the web method?
Thanks,
Dan
"Yossi Dahan" <yossidahan@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eVPbyZdZFHA.2768@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>I think using pipeline components to deliver messages is a wrong approach.
> after all this is exactly what adapters are for.
>
> Either use the WSE adapter which, as I've just discovered through the
> newsgroups supports calling web services in a messaging only scenario or
> write you own custom adapter.
>
> pipelines are not meant to deliver the message to the endpoint.
>
> A pipeline component doesn't have what it takes to manage the end point.
> it cannot use the retry mechanism, it cannot use the error handling
> capabilities provided to an adapter (suspend message,
> MoveToSecondaryTransport etc)
>
> Yossi Dahan
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> "Dan Tharp" <dtharp@NOSPAMPLEASEgdtr.com> wrote in message
> news:eioVB4tYFHA.252@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>
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| Yossi Dahan 2005-05-31, 6:01 pm |
| as I've mentioned I was surprised to find out it works myself, after trying
endlessly with the SOAP adapter with the past but have not yet tried it
myself.
It was Phua Chiu Kiang that posted he succesfully managed to do that
(http://groups-beta.google.com/group...e4?dmode=source)
I hope he can step in at this stage and give more details...
Yossi Dahan
"Dan Tharp" <dtharp@NOSPAMPLEASEgdtr.com> wrote in message
news:O54InifZFHA.796@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Thanks for the feedback, Yossi.
> I would really love to see how to get WSE to work in a messaging-only
> scenario, but from what I've heard, it's not doable (and I've not been
> able to get it to work).
> Have you been successful in passing off a document to a web service via
> messaging-only WSE?
> If so, how did you do it?
> How did you get the message passed as a parameter to the web method?
>
> Thanks,
> Dan
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> "Yossi Dahan" <yossidahan@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eVPbyZdZFHA.2768@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
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