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BAM, WSS, WebServices and Enterprise Library Issues
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| BizTalk Benjamin 2006-02-21, 5:51 pm |
| Hi,
I havent tried out BAM yet, but in my previous project i had WSS (Windows
Sharepoint Services) enabled (just in case we needed BAM). We then found that
the high security in WSS meant that our custom web services didnt work
properly unless we gave them all FULL TRUST and for some strange reason ,
Enterprise Library would refuse to log anything because of security issues.
Once we removed WSS it all worked fine.
Has anyone come across this before? I need BAM in my new project and if this
is a known issue, i'd have to install a separate server just for BAM and WSS
so it doesnt mess with the other components,
Thanks in advance,
benjy
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| Keith Lim 2006-02-21, 5:51 pm |
| Hi Benjy,
You are safe. The BAM feature of BizTalk does not require WSS. Only the
BAS feature does, so just ensure that you don't configure for BAS if you
don't need it.
Thanks,
Keith Lim [MSFT]
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My BizTalk BAM Blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/keithlim/default.aspx
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| BizTalk Benjamin 2006-02-22, 7:47 am |
| Keith,
Thanks. But how about the tracking portal ? Wouldnt that need WSS? Or is
that only available for v2006?
And is the enterprise library issue a known one? the Ent Lib group on
gotdotnet didnt seem to know anything about WSS related issues. I had posted
about it here
http://dotnetjunkies.com/WebLog/net...TS_Diary_7.aspx
I'll take another look at the BAS stuff later. We dont need have any trading
partners yet cos this is a legacy systems integration project within the
organisation, but there may be BAS type things that need to be done.
Hope you can clarify the tracking portal issue.
Benjy
"Keith Lim (MSFT)" wrote:
> Hi Benjy,
>
> You are safe. The BAM feature of BizTalk does not require WSS. Only the
> BAS feature does, so just ensure that you don't configure for BAS if you
> don't need it.
>
> Thanks,
> Keith Lim [MSFT]
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> this
> WSS
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> Thanks,
> Keith Lim [MSFT]
> My BizTalk BAM Blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/keithlim/default.aspx
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| Adrian Hamza [MSFT] 2006-02-22, 5:57 pm |
| I think there is an easy way to workaround this even if you do install WSS
on the machine. The trick is to use two different IIS web sites, one for
WSS (extended by WSS) and another one for your own web services which I
understand cannot run on the same IIS site as WSS. Both IIS web sites would
run on the same machine. IIS support hosting multiple sites on the same
machine. You can create the 2 IIS web sites using different ports (Default
Web Site is on port 80, you could use port 81 for a second web site) or you
can use the same port 80 but in that case you will need to use different
host names. You will need to make sure that in your network 2 host names
can be resolved to the same IP address of your machine. Then select each of
the IIS sites (Default Web Site, Second Web Site) and open the Properties
page, click the Advanced button, and type in the host name in the Host
Header Value field for the first site. Repeat the proces for the second
site but use a different host name.
I suggest to put WSS on the Default Web Site (associated with the machine
name) and use Second Web Site for your web services.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Adrian Hamza [MSFT]
http://blogs.msdn.com/ahamza/
My blog on BizTalk 2006
Windows SharePoint Services adapter
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| Keith Lim 2006-02-22, 5:57 pm |
| Hi Benjy, BizTalk BAM Portal UI does not need WSS. However, if there is a
need for BAS and WSS, Adrian's post is the way to go.
Thanks,
Keith Lim [MSFT]
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My BizTalk BAM Blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/keithlim/default.aspx
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| BizTalk Benjamin 2006-02-23, 7:51 am |
| Thanks very much Adrian, Thats very useful indeed...
benjy
"Adrian Hamza [MSFT]" wrote:
> I think there is an easy way to workaround this even if you do install WSS
> on the machine. The trick is to use two different IIS web sites, one for
> WSS (extended by WSS) and another one for your own web services which I
> understand cannot run on the same IIS site as WSS. Both IIS web sites would
> run on the same machine. IIS support hosting multiple sites on the same
> machine. You can create the 2 IIS web sites using different ports (Default
> Web Site is on port 80, you could use port 81 for a second web site) or you
> can use the same port 80 but in that case you will need to use different
> host names. You will need to make sure that in your network 2 host names
> can be resolved to the same IP address of your machine. Then select each of
> the IIS sites (Default Web Site, Second Web Site) and open the Properties
> page, click the Advanced button, and type in the host name in the Host
> Header Value field for the first site. Repeat the proces for the second
> site but use a different host name.
>
> I suggest to put WSS on the Default Web Site (associated with the machine
> name) and use Second Web Site for your web services.
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
>
> Adrian Hamza [MSFT]
> http://blogs.msdn.com/ahamza/
> My blog on BizTalk 2006
> Windows SharePoint Services adapter
>
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> <BizTalkBenjamin@discussions.microsoft.com>
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> you
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> found
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| BizTalk Benjamin 2006-02-23, 7:51 am |
| Hi Keith,
Thanks a lot..that definitely helps.
Rgds
Benjy
"Keith Lim (MSFT)" wrote:
> Hi Benjy, BizTalk BAM Portal UI does not need WSS. However, if there is a
> need for BAS and WSS, Adrian's post is the way to go.
>
> Thanks,
> Keith Lim [MSFT]
>
> --------------------
> <BizTalkBenjamin@discussions.microsoft.com>
> <699#KZxNGHA.3052@TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl>
> posted
> x
> trading
> the
> you
> (Windows
> found
> work
> reason ,
> if
> and
> rights.
>
> Thanks,
> Keith Lim [MSFT]
> My BizTalk BAM Blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/keithlim/default.aspx
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