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| Michael Krok 2004-02-08, 8:42 am |
| I'm currently using the MS Adapter for SAP for both sync
and async message processing. What specific questions do
you have?
Michael Krok
>-----Original Message-----
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>Hi,
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>Are any of you guys using Biztalk for SAP integration,
in a syncrouse messaging type application?
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>How has SAP reacted to your implementation?
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>Regards
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| newsgroup user 2004-02-08, 8:42 am |
| Hi Michael,
Thanks for replying....
We have an implementation here, that implements a web based purchase ordering system.
We are currently calling a SAP.Net connector proxy object from a web page, that creates a purchase
order in SAP.
We had some discussions with SAP regarding this solution and they have said that each user is
an eprocurement user and requires an eprocurement license....unless you using the BAPI
as a feeder, then its free to be used....
Quite frankly I think this is utter rubbish, howeverI need to ensure that I have some evidence
to support my thoughts....
We could actually implement the call to the BAPI via a Biztalk orcestration process - in a sync messaging
manner ( to inform the web user that the call has worked i.e. display the po number, in real-time )
So my query is this, if we implement a middle layer i.e. Biztalk....
And I talk to Biztalk and in turn Biztalk talks to SAP, would I be correct in assuming that I could
use one user license as only one connection is taking place i.e. the communication between biztalk and SAP?
Even though multiple processes / users may send data to the biztalk messaging queue for the orchestration
prcoess to take place...
Regards
Nick
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| Michael Krok 2004-02-08, 8:42 am |
| Interesting,
From my experiance, it all boils down to the agreement
your customer has with SAP.
Using Microsoft BTS Adapter for SAP, DCOM Connector at my
customer they don't have to secure any additional
licensing for our PO integration. Which is receiving PO
data (X12,EDIFECT,XML) from various customers,
orchestrated, and passed on the SAP (in IDoc format)
using BTS and MS Adapter 4SAP. This solution is not real
time.
A real time solution, in my opinion, should not be any
different, and can be achieved using async
communication. The eCommerce way would be the users
submit a purchase request online and after all credit
checks nad verifactions take place, a tracking Id is
given to them to track orders on their own. IT this
case, the order is not placed immediatly and the tracking
id is stored in SQL. When the PO is actually processed
by your ERP system (SAP) the order can be coorelated
throught the tracking Id.
One footnote is that version 2 of the MS Adapter for SAP
uses the .NET connector and not DCOM Connector. Same
issue, different technology. I would think that we
should be able to use the single process license fro all
transactions. But again, it all depends on the customers
agreement with SAP.
Hope this helps
Michael Krok
>-----Original Message-----
>Hi Michael,
>
>Thanks for replying....
>
>We have an implementation here, that implements a web
based purchase ordering system.
>We are currently calling a SAP.Net connector proxy
object from a web page, that creates a purchase
>order in SAP.
>
>We had some discussions with SAP regarding this solution
and they have said that each user is
>an eprocurement user and requires an eprocurement
license....unless you using the BAPI
>as a feeder, then its free to be used....
>
>Quite frankly I think this is utter rubbish, howeverI
need to ensure that I have some evidence
>to support my thoughts....
>
>We could actually implement the call to the BAPI via a
Biztalk orcestration process - in a sync messaging
>manner ( to inform the web user that the call has worked
i.e. display the po number, in real-time )
>
>So my query is this, if we implement a middle layer i.e.
Biztalk....
>And I talk to Biztalk and in turn Biztalk talks to SAP,
would I be correct in assuming that I could
>use one user license as only one connection is taking
place i.e. the communication between biztalk and SAP?
>Even though multiple processes / users may send data to
the biztalk messaging queue for the orchestration
>prcoess to take place...
>
>Regards
>
>Nick
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>
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| newsgroup user 2004-02-08, 8:42 am |
| Hi,
We actually signed the contract with SAP years ago, this is what is called indirect access
I'm hoping we are coverted from this point of view, as we were one of the early sites to go live in the UK
I'm just after evidence that supports my implementation architecture....
As you can imagine, SAP don't like what we are saying.....
Regards
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