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burning restore CDs from a HD: Ghost 2003
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| I have created an image of my HD on an external USB drive using ghost
2003, and verified the image. I created the image with -size 600 so
each would fit onto a CD. I then copied each image onto a CD, booted
up ghost with a boot disk, and then tried to restore the image from
the CDs. I get a msg to the effect "the cd was not created by ghost".
I have tried contacting symantec and was no help.
Anythoughts? I wonder if there is some field in the CD header that is
the key.
Thanks
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| Peter Wilkins 2004-10-21, 2:45 am |
| On 20 Oct 2004 07:41:21 -0700, zigipha@hotmail.com (zigi) wrote :
>I have created an image of my HD on an external USB drive using ghost
>2003, and verified the image. I created the image with -size 600 so
>each would fit onto a CD. I then copied each image onto a CD, booted
>up ghost with a boot disk, and then tried to restore the image from
>the CDs. I get a msg to the effect "the cd was not created by ghost".
>I have tried contacting symantec and was no help.
>
>Anythoughts? I wonder if there is some field in the CD header that is
>the key.
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Look for the .gho file that will be on the first CD in the set and try
to point Ghost to that.
PS. when creating the image, you could have imaged directly to CD and
told Ghost to make the image CD bootable, and it would have
automatically spanned. You could then just put the first CD into the
computer, reboot, and it would all happen.
--=20
Regards,
Peter Wilkins
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| Peter Wilkins <wilkinsp nospam@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message news:<7gben0pocj6ockjha1lcimek6ammkig5dd@4ax.com>...
> On 20 Oct 2004 07:41:21 -0700, zigipha@hotmail.com (zigi) wrote :
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> Look for the .gho file that will be on the first CD in the set and try
> to point Ghost to that.
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> PS. when creating the image, you could have imaged directly to CD and
> told Ghost to make the image CD bootable, and it would have
> automatically spanned. You could then just put the first CD into the
> computer, reboot, and it would all happen.
I have done the image-to-cd and that does work, but is slower. I
really want to ghost to a hard drive and then be able to spin off CDs.
When putting in a CD with the wrong file (wrong sequence) i get a
"wrong file" message. However, the message I get when i burn the CD
(using adaptec cd creator) is a message "this CD is not crated by
ghost". After poking around abit, I believe it might be due to some
fields in the CD header that is the problem.
Has anyone actually done what I am trying to do? Thanks
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| Peter Wilkins 2004-10-21, 8:45 pm |
| On 21 Oct 2004 08:16:38 -0700, zigipha@hotmail.com (zigi) wrote :
>Peter Wilkins <wilkinsp nospam@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message =
news:<7gben0pocj6ockjha1lcimek6ammkig5dd@4ax.com>...
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>I have done the image-to-cd and that does work, but is slower. I
>really want to ghost to a hard drive and then be able to spin off CDs.
>When putting in a CD with the wrong file (wrong sequence) i get a
>"wrong file" message. However, the message I get when i burn the CD
>(using adaptec cd creator) is a message "this CD is not crated by
>ghost". After poking around abit, I believe it might be due to some
>fields in the CD header that is the problem.
>
>Has anyone actually done what I am trying to do? Thanks
I used to image to a second HDD in 700M chunks for 80minute CDs and
then copy the image files to CDR. As far as I can remember, it worked
fine. I never got that message about the CD not being created by
Ghost. But I think I used directCD and just dragged & dropped the
image files to copy them to the CDs. (don't have any of those backups
left, I changed my computer, so I can't verify, sorry).
But if Ghost won't recognise the CD's, then as a work-around you might
be able to copy the files off the CD's into a folder on your 2nd HDD
and then restore from there. That works and has advantages - see next
para.
When I got to needing 12 CD's for a full system backup I gave up that
approach and just kept the images on the second HDD. Getting
individual files back from a multi CD backup set is an exercise in
complete frustration, requiring hundreds of CD swaps and several
hours! If you ever wish to get back only a few files rather than a
full restore, then it is much quicker to copy the whole backup set
from the CDs back onto a HDD with all the files in the one folder.
That works fairly quickly.
So now I image every week just to my HDD, and every month (or whenever
I have a major system change) directly to bootable DVD, which only
needs 3 instead of the 16 CD I would need now.
Don't know if that helps.
--=20
Regards,
Peter Wilkins
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| Peter Wilkins <wilkinsp nospam@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message news:<gbjgn0dm52h1rmt7stg4qa4tgs64rh6tb9@4ax.com>...
> On 21 Oct 2004 08:16:38 -0700, zigipha@hotmail.com (zigi) wrote :
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> news:<7gben0pocj6ockjha1lcimek6ammkig5dd@4ax.com>...
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> I used to image to a second HDD in 700M chunks for 80minute CDs and
> then copy the image files to CDR. As far as I can remember, it worked
> fine. I never got that message about the CD not being created by
> Ghost. But I think I used directCD and just dragged & dropped the
> image files to copy them to the CDs. (don't have any of those backups
> left, I changed my computer, so I can't verify, sorry).
>
> But if Ghost won't recognise the CD's, then as a work-around you might
> be able to copy the files off the CD's into a folder on your 2nd HDD
> and then restore from there. That works and has advantages - see next
> para.
>
> When I got to needing 12 CD's for a full system backup I gave up that
> approach and just kept the images on the second HDD. Getting
> individual files back from a multi CD backup set is an exercise in
> complete frustration, requiring hundreds of CD swaps and several
> hours! If you ever wish to get back only a few files rather than a
> full restore, then it is much quicker to copy the whole backup set
> from the CDs back onto a HDD with all the files in the one folder.
> That works fairly quickly.
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> So now I image every week just to my HDD, and every month (or whenever
> I have a major system change) directly to bootable DVD, which only
> needs 3 instead of the 16 CD I would need now.
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> Don't know if that helps.
I will try it again on a different system with a different CD burner.
I had a few scenarios that I wanted to cover (not putting in a 2nd
HDD, a process that works for laptops, being able to mail the images
thru the mail, etc) that would be covered if I could spin off CDs from
a HDD image.
You mentioned Drag and drop - isnt that used for CD-RW? I was using
CD-Rs. Maybe thats the ticket.
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| Peter Wilkins 2004-10-22, 8:45 pm |
| On 22 Oct 2004 06:13:41 -0700, zigipha@hotmail.com (zigi) wrote :
>I will try it again on a different system with a different CD burner.
>I had a few scenarios that I wanted to cover (not putting in a 2nd
>HDD, a process that works for laptops, being able to mail the images
>thru the mail, etc) that would be covered if I could spin off CDs from
>a HDD image.
I had assumed when you said you imaged to HDD that you imaged to a
second HDD - or to another partition on the one HDD. You can't image
a HDD onto itself! Could that be the problem?
With my laptop I have only one HDD but I have a 30G backup partition
used only for images and source files, so I can do a system backup
from the other partitions to the backup one, then copy to DVD.
I assume when you said you want to mail the images you meant
snailmail! Emailing 10 or 20G of image files would be an interesting
exercise!
But I can confirm that I have previously imaged to my backup partition
and then copied to CDR and then verified that Ghost could read the
CD's, so it does work.
Just to be sure, I have just copied the first C.gho file and the last
C0000020.ghs of my latest boot partition backup from my backup
partition to a DVDRW, and then opened up Ghost, said "restore",
pointed Ghost to the DVD Drive, and it found the image and listed up
the details and the notes - so I can confirm that it does work,
although I didn't actually restore. I'm not sure what you are doing
to get that message.
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>You mentioned Drag and drop - isnt that used for CD-RW? I was using
>CD-Rs. Maybe thats the ticket.
Yes, it is used with CDRW, but you can also format a CDR or DVDR with
DirectCD and use drag & drop with that too - you can even erase files
from the CDR, just can't reuse the space, and when the CR is full,
that's it.
I once tried using CDRW with Ghost, directly imaging to the CDRWs, and
it worked fine - BUT - to reuse the CDRWs once the backup was
superceded, a quick erase was no good - Ghost insists on totally blank
CDs and would only work with re-used CDRW after a full erase - 30
minutes per CDRW!!! So I gave that approach up pretty quickly. =20
I now image to HDD, copy to DVDRW, and I can re-use the DVDRW after a
simple file delete, I don't need to do a full erase as I would if I
imaged directly to the DVD.
--=20
Regards,
Peter Wilkins
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| Michael Kimmer 2004-10-23, 5:45 pm |
| zigi wrote:
> I have created an image of my HD on an external USB drive using ghost
> 2003, and verified the image. I created the image with -size 600 so
> each would fit onto a CD. I then copied each image onto a CD, booted
> up ghost with a boot disk, and then tried to restore the image from
> the CDs. I get a msg to the effect "the cd was not created by ghost".
> I have tried contacting symantec and was no help.
>
> Anythoughts? I wonder if there is some field in the CD header that is
> the key.
>
> Thanks
Better use the -split=<MB> instead as a switch that will atually split up
the backup in chunks of specified size in MB's
e.g. ghost.exe -split=690 -auto
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M.f.G.
Michael Kimmer
"Ein Tag an dem Du nicht lächelst ist ein verlorener Tag"
"Eine Nacht in der Du nicht schläfst ist eine verschlafene Nacht"
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| Peter Wilkins 2004-10-23, 5:45 pm |
| On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 11:18:18 +1000, Peter Wilkins
<wilkinsp_nospam@ozemail.com.au> wrote :
>But I can confirm that I have previously imaged to my backup partition
>and then copied to CDR and then verified that Ghost could read the
>CD's, so it does work.
>
Michael Kimmer has probably hit on your problem.
There is no -size command AFAIK.
The -sze series of commands set the partition size, not the file size.
I assumed you must have used -split not -size as you said you had
created a backup set of image files each 600M OK.
If you didn't use -split, I suggest you do another image using it,
and then write your CDs. With 80 min CD's, you can use -split=3D690 to
make full use of the disk. You shouldn't have to use -auto also, as
that is the Ghost default.
--=20
Regards,
Peter Wilkins
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| yes, i meant -split..sorry about the miscommunication. And yes I was
trying to image from HDD to another HDD. I realize ghost can't image
to it's source drive.
I didnt get to try it again over the weekend...spent the time playing
with BING etc. It went well.
When I was making the CDs, I didn't use direct CD on CD-RW or CD-Rs..
I was using cd creator to CD-Rs. I will try direct CD (hopefully this
week).
"Michael Kimmer" <michaelkimmer@NOSPAM.xs4all.nl> wrote in message news:<417a698d$0$37789$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>...
> zigi wrote:
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> Better use the -split=<MB> instead as a switch that will atually split up
> the backup in chunks of specified size in MB's
> e.g. ghost.exe -split=690 -auto
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| Linea Recta 2004-10-26, 5:45 pm |
| "zigi" <zigipha@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
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> I have created an image of my HD on an external USB drive using ghost
> 2003, and verified the image. I created the image with -size 600 so
> each would fit onto a CD. I then copied each image onto a CD, booted
> up ghost with a boot disk, and then tried to restore the image from
> the CDs. I get a msg to the effect "the cd was not created by ghost".
> I have tried contacting symantec and was no help.
>
> Anythoughts?
Yes. If you want to restore an image which was not created directly on
CD/DVD by Ghost, you have to use a different Ghost boot disk set. Use
'Norton Ghost Boot Wizard' and use option 'CD/DVD startup Disk with Ghost'
to create the boot disks. After that you have disks with drivers for CD/DVD
access.
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> Yes. If you want to restore an image which was not created directly on
> CD/DVD by Ghost, you have to use a different Ghost boot disk set. Use
> 'Norton Ghost Boot Wizard' and use option 'CD/DVD startup Disk with Ghost'
> to create the boot disks. After that you have disks with drivers for CD/DVD
> access.
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Thanks for the info..but I already tried that. I was able to boot up
from a CD and sucessfully reinstalled CDs using CDs written to by
ghost, and then immediately tried to reinstall from the adaptec
written CDs but got the error message.
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| Linea Recta 2004-10-27, 5:46 pm |
| "zigi" <zigipha@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
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> "Linea Recta" <mccm.vos@abc.net> wrote in message
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> Thanks for the info..but I already tried that. I was able to boot up
> from a CD and sucessfully reinstalled CDs using CDs written to by
> ghost, and then immediately tried to reinstall from the adaptec
> written CDs but got the error message.
Strange. I don't use adaptec (ECDC I suppose?), but Nero 6 for copying the
images made by Ghost (2003) from the HD, using the ISO format of course. I
suppose you did so too?
I just made a DVD+R this way and did a Gost verify, having boot up with the
boot disks as I described. The DVD seemed verified succesfully (after long
time!)
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