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| Chuck U. Farley 2004-11-23, 8:45 pm |
| Is there a disk imaging proggie where I can:
1. Make a bootable DVD disk, _not_ rewritable but a standard - or + DVD (not
CD) disk.
2. Put a recoverable_complete_ image of my hd (size is <4 gigs) _not_ parsed
out in any sections but a complete, full image of my hard drive, on that
boot disk.
3. Be able to insert that disk, re-boot my computer, have a menu come up
giving me the option to format my hard drive.
4. Put the image on that newly formatted hard drive.
5. Not require _any_ other programs such as Nero, DirectCD, WinIso,
IsoBuster etc.
5. Not require the use of the .NET framework (that's what ruled out Norton's
Ghost).
Surely, that's not asking too much but damned if I can find any program
that'll let me do that.
Any recommendations appreciated!
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| Take a look at Acronis' two programs. The first is TrueImage, and the second
is their MigrateEasy. They may be what you are looking for.
"Chuck U. Farley" <chuckufarley@dyslexia.com> wrote in message
news:bdNod.49495$IQ.17901@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
> Is there a disk imaging proggie where I can:
>
> 1. Make a bootable DVD disk, _not_ rewritable but a standard - or + DVD
(not
> CD) disk.
> 2. Put a recoverable_complete_ image of my hd (size is <4 gigs) _not_
parsed
> out in any sections but a complete, full image of my hard drive, on that
> boot disk.
> 3. Be able to insert that disk, re-boot my computer, have a menu come up
> giving me the option to format my hard drive.
> 4. Put the image on that newly formatted hard drive.
> 5. Not require _any_ other programs such as Nero, DirectCD, WinIso,
> IsoBuster etc.
> 5. Not require the use of the .NET framework (that's what ruled out
Norton's
> Ghost).
>
> Surely, that's not asking too much but damned if I can find any program
> that'll let me do that.
>
> Any recommendations appreciated!
>
>
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| Chuck U. Farley 2004-11-23, 8:45 pm |
| > Take a look at Acronis' two programs. The first is TrueImage, and the
second
> is their MigrateEasy. They may be what you are looking for.
Just uninstalled it and that was the reason for my post. It can't do 1, 2,
or 5... unfortunately. Thanks for the reply though!
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| Mark R. Blain 2004-11-23, 8:45 pm |
| On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 15:39:37 -0500, Chuck U. Farley wrote:
> Is there a disk imaging proggie where I can:
>
> 1. Make a bootable DVD disk, _not_ rewritable but a standard - or + DVD (not
> CD) disk.
> 2. Put a recoverable_complete_ image of my hd (size is <4 gigs) _not_ parsed
> out in any sections but a complete, full image of my hard drive, on that
> boot disk.
> 3. Be able to insert that disk, re-boot my computer, have a menu come up
> giving me the option to format my hard drive.
> 4. Put the image on that newly formatted hard drive.
> 5. Not require _any_ other programs such as Nero, DirectCD, WinIso,
> IsoBuster etc.
> 5. Not require the use of the .NET framework (that's what ruled out Norton's
> Ghost).
Perhaps Imaging for Windows from
http://www.bootitng.com/
I just read about this recently, but I haven't tried it myself.
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| Chuck U. Farley 2004-11-25, 5:45 pm |
| > Hi "Chuck" (nice addy).
Thanks. <g>
> Which prog did you just uninstall?
True Image
> The manual for True Image indicates you can boot from a CD, then
re-install
> from a (or some) DVD+/-RW(s), but it doesn't go into a lot of detail.
In the past, I've had problems with CD-RW media not being reliable so I made
a vow then to not ever use RW media for anything critical.
> Is there any reason why it must be a bootable and non-rewriteable DVD?
The bootable was more for convenience as I'm trying to automate the process
so I don't have to be at the box, feeding it disks.
> What other progs did the Acronis prog need to be installed?
Roxio DirectCD. I use Nero and for whatever reason, and you'd think a UDF
formatted disk is a UDF formatted disk, but their FAQ states only DirectCD
is supported.
> I tried their Partition Expert, and it works fine for copying hard
drives -
> almost tempted to use that and keep a working hard drive spare for
> emergencies.
I read great reviews about True Image but could never get it to burn an
image on either a DVD +/- R or RW. Here's their process for making a
bootable DVD with an image of your hd:
1. Back up your system with TrueImage, and specify a 635MB image size. This
will give you the best space usage on the DVD, and also give you the option
of copying your images to CD if you're the masochistic type.
2. Create a Bootable Rescue CD using the Acronis software.
3. Install and open WinISO
4. In WinISO, click Actions -> Make ISO from CDROM, and save that ISO
somewhere.
5. Open that image file using WinISO
6. Save boot information to a file called "trueimg.wbt"
(Click "Bootable CD" in the lower left corner, and then select "Save boot
information to file...")
7. Get CD Shell and BCDW and extract it to a directory somewhere. Whatever
this location is, I will refer to it as [cdshell] from now on. For example,
replace [cdshell] with "c:\cdshell" if that's where you put it.
Now you're ready to create the bootable DVD.
8. Open Nero and create a new DVD-ROM (Boot) project.
9. On the Boot tab, select Image file, and select the file
[cdshell]\boot\loader.bin
10. Use the "No Emulation" setting, and the number of loaded sectors
should be 4. (Other values should be left at the default)
11. Create a DVD directory structure like this (TIB files in the root, and
two subdirectories called "boot" and "acronis"):
/ (root) (Put your TIB files here)
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| + BOOT (Drag the contents of "boot" directory from your [cdshell]
directory here)
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| + ACRONIS (put the trueimg.wbt file here)
Thanks but no thanks. <g> I'm going to give Ghost 2003 a shot as it doens't
require the .NET trash to be installed.
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| Martin 2004-11-25, 5:45 pm |
| "Chuck U. Farley" <chuckufarley@dyslexia.com> wrote in message
news:%rmpd.45761$z3.10585@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
<snip tale of horror>
> Thanks but no thanks. <g> I'm going to give Ghost 2003 a shot as it
doens't
> require the .NET trash to be installed.
Crikey!
Let us know how you get on in your quest.
Cheers,
Martin.
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| nospam@cristalink.com 2004-11-25, 5:45 pm |
| If you use Windows XP or 2003, then you run Windows Backup Utility's
Automated System Recovery Wizard with Firestreamer-DVD
(http://www.firestreamer.com/fsdvd/) to back up your system directly
to DVD.
When the time comes, you boot from Windows Setup CD/DVD-ROM and press
F2 when asked to run automated system recovery. You wait for awhile
and then insert your backup DVD. A few minutes more - and your system
is up and running again.
Cheers
"Chuck U. Farley" <chuckufarley@dyslexia.com> wrote in message news:<bdNod.49495$IQ.17901@bignews6.bellsouth.net>...
> Is there a disk imaging proggie where I can:
>
> 1. Make a bootable DVD disk, _not_ rewritable but a standard - or + DVD (not
> CD) disk.
> 2. Put a recoverable_complete_ image of my hd (size is <4 gigs) _not_ parsed
> out in any sections but a complete, full image of my hard drive, on that
> boot disk.
> 3. Be able to insert that disk, re-boot my computer, have a menu come up
> giving me the option to format my hard drive.
> 4. Put the image on that newly formatted hard drive.
> 5. Not require _any_ other programs such as Nero, DirectCD, WinIso,
> IsoBuster etc.
> 5. Not require the use of the .NET framework (that's what ruled out Norton's
> Ghost).
>
> Surely, that's not asking too much but damned if I can find any program
> that'll let me do that.
>
> Any recommendations appreciated!
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| Chuck U. Farley 2004-11-26, 5:47 pm |
| > If you use Windows XP or 2003, then you run Windows Backup Utility's
> Automated System Recovery Wizard with Firestreamer-DVD
> (http://www.firestreamer.com/fsdvd/) to back up your system directly
> to DVD.
I'm not that familiar with the ASR but does it give you the option to format
the disk before doing the recovery? I don't want it to just re-install XP
over itself, I want to have this clean, virgin install of XP I've just done
with all my little GUI adjustments and tweaks and nothing else.
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| nospam@cristalink.com 2004-11-26, 5:47 pm |
| ASR restores all the files and all the settings to the same state they
were at the point of the ASR backup set creation. Including little gui
adjustments and tweaks.
ASR recreates HDD partitions and makes a clean minimum install of
Windows first, then restores all the files/settings second, including
Windows system files. You get nearly the same system. The major
difference is that the new system is less fragmented than the old one
--
http://www.firestreamer.com - NTBACKUP to DVD and DV
"Chuck U. Farley" <chuckufarley@dyslexia.com> wrote in message news:<gkHpd.45486$jE2.22102@bignews4.bellsouth.net>...
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> I'm not that familiar with the ASR but does it give you the option to format
> the disk before doing the recovery? I don't want it to just re-install XP
> over itself, I want to have this clean, virgin install of XP I've just done
> with all my little GUI adjustments and tweaks and nothing else.
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