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| Neil Rudd 2004-06-09, 8:47 am |
| Not sure if this is the right place to post this but...
I wonder if someone could suggest a backup solution to backup 5 office
servers. I would prefer to utilise a single backup device rather than
seperate backup devices per server (less man hours and cartridges needed).
I'm looking at a capacity around 600GB, could anyone suggest a suitable
product as I'm not too familiar with different backup devices.
The server will be Dell PowerEdge 1U servers and to keep the initial costs
down, they do not include tape drives.
Thanks in advance
Neil
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| On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 09:26:16 +0100, "Neil Rudd"
<rudddesign@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Not sure if this is the right place to post this but...
>
>I wonder if someone could suggest a backup solution to backup 5 office
>servers. I would prefer to utilise a single backup device rather than
>seperate backup devices per server (less man hours and cartridges needed).
>I'm looking at a capacity around 600GB, could anyone suggest a suitable
>product as I'm not too familiar with different backup devices.
>
>The server will be Dell PowerEdge 1U servers and to keep the initial costs
>down, they do not include tape drives.
>
>Thanks in advance
>Neil
>
Neil what are you backing up the pentagon? 600 gigs! What kind of
data? i.e. small files, large files, os??
go to www.storagebysony.com In my opinion they make the best drives.
See if you find something to fill your needs. I currently use the Ait
drive with the robotic library, its nice. What software do you want to
use?
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| On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 08:30:13 -0500, "Richard E. Thiess"
<rthiess@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>I have just purchased an Iomega 160 Gig USB External HD. The
>software include an Iomega backup program and Norton Ghost 2003. Running
>both seems somewhat redundant. To date, I have run Ghost once and have the
>Iomega backing up "Documents and Settings" every night. Is running just
>Ghost sufficient protection? How often should I run Ghost? If I run Ghost
>too frequently, wouldn't I expose myself to the possibility of backing up
>corrupted files? I guess my questions are more philosophical than
>technical. TIA
>
>Richard Thiess
>Norcross, GA
Richard, I can only tell you what I do and I am sure you will receive
other suggestions as well. I use Ghost 2003 and it has work flawlessly
for me and it has saved me from disaster twice. Here is how I use it.
I have 35 gigs on my harddrive and I bought a 200 gig external
harddrive on which I put (4) 45 gig partitions.So I can get (4)
separate disk backups on the external harddrive and have 20GB left for
anything else I might want to specificially back up. That should be
enough to prevent backing up corrupt files.
I boot to Ghost with a floppy and only a floppy. Twice a week, I back
up my entire harddrive to a partition on the external harddrive. It
really doesn't take very long to do the backup and the integrity
check. Remember, Ghost will let you not only to restore your entire
disk but also any partition or folder(s) you may desire.
In my early days, I tried incremental backups but I find the way I
back up now to not only be simple but dependable.
I am not familiar with Iomega but if you wanted to, you could still
backup nightly. There would be some redundancy but I would think you
would like having the ability to restore you entire harddrive in the
event a harddive crash.
So much for my thoughts.
Simon
I
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| James Silverton 2004-12-16, 7:29 pm |
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"Simon" <noname@simonsays.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 08:30:13 -0500, "Richard E. Thiess"
> <rthiess@bellsouth.net> wrote:
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> Richard, I can only tell you what I do and I am sure you will
> receive
> other suggestions as well. I use Ghost 2003 and it has work
> flawlessly
> for me and it has saved me from disaster twice. Here is how I use
> it.
> I have 35 gigs on my harddrive and I bought a 200 gig external
> harddrive on which I put (4) 45 gig partitions.So I can get (4)
> separate disk backups on the external harddrive and have 20GB left
> for
> anything else I might want to specificially back up. That should be
> enough to prevent backing up corrupt files.
> I boot to Ghost with a floppy and only a floppy. Twice a week, I
> back
> up my entire harddrive to a partition on the external harddrive. It
> really doesn't take very long to do the backup and the integrity
> check. Remember, Ghost will let you not only to restore your entire
> disk but also any partition or folder(s) you may desire.
> In my early days, I tried incremental backups but I find the way I
> back up now to not only be simple but dependable.
>
> I am not familiar with Iomega but if you wanted to, you could still
> backup nightly. There would be some redundancy but I would think
> you
> would like having the ability to restore you entire harddrive in the
> event a harddive crash.
You seem enthusiastic and Ghost sounds very interesting. How long do
you think it would take to completely back up about 10 Gigs to a 7200
rpm USB2 disc? Let's assume a 1.5 GHZ machine. Currently, a full back
up with Retrospect takes me about an hour with that set up.
--
James V. Silverton
Potomac, Maryland, USA
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| On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 10:23:01 -0500, "James Silverton"
<not.jim.silverton@erols.com> wrote:
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>"Simon" <noname@simonsays.com> wrote in message
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>You seem enthusiastic and Ghost sounds very interesting. How long do
>you think it would take to completely back up about 10 Gigs to a 7200
>rpm USB2 disc? Let's assume a 1.5 GHZ machine. Currently, a full back
>up with Retrospect takes me about an hour with that set up.
It takes me about 40 minutes to backup and make an integery check for
my 35 Gig's. I don't know if you can make an exact extrapolation but I
would think probably no more than 20-25 minutes at most. I generally
do mine around supper time so I don't really feel I am at a loss of
compuyer time. Less if you don't do the integrity check BUT I would
definitely recommend you do the integrit check.
Simon
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| James Silverton 2004-12-16, 7:29 pm |
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"Simon" <noname@simonsays.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 10:23:01 -0500, "James Silverton"
> <not.jim.silverton@erols.com> wrote:
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> It takes me about 40 minutes to backup and make an integery check
> for
> my 35 Gig's. I don't know if you can make an exact extrapolation but
> I
> would think probably no more than 20-25 minutes at most. I generally
> do mine around supper time so I don't really feel I am at a loss of
> compuyer time. Less if you don't do the integrity check BUT I would
> definitely recommend you do the integrit check.
> Simon
Thanks again! I think I am going to seriously consider getting Norton
Ghost.
Jim.
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| Try Norton Ghost 9 - I use it with my IOMega Rev drive and it works fine.
You can do the backup from Windows.
"James Silverton" <not.jim.silverton@erols.com> wrote in message
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> "Simon" <noname@simonsays.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks again! I think I am going to seriously consider getting Norton
> Ghost.
>
> Jim.
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| Charlie 2004-12-16, 7:29 pm |
| I also vote for Ghost 9. Yes it does everything within Windows and is very
user friendly. I do a full image weekly and 2 incremental backups each day
12 hrs apart to a nother physical drive on our home network. It is a really
slick application IMHO and worth the $69. I also have used and still own
Ghost 2003 but it is floppy based for it's recovery and no automatic
incremental backups.
--
Charlie
Ham Radio - AB7SL
www.492acousticblues.com
"JohnA" <John@discardstring-TheAtas.org> wrote in message
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> Try Norton Ghost 9 - I use it with my IOMega Rev drive and it works fine.
> You can do the backup from Windows.
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> "James Silverton" <not.jim.silverton@erols.com> wrote in message
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