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Ciccio

2005-05-02, 2:45 am

I have a notebook with only one HD.
What's software for backup image HD, with driver for network in DOS?
Ghost dont have a driver DOS for network.
Acronis True Image idem!
Thanks
Peter Frank

2005-05-03, 5:47 pm

Ciccio wrote:
> I have a notebook with only one HD.
> What's software for backup image HD, with driver for network in DOS?
> Ghost dont have a driver DOS for network.
> Acronis True Image idem!


I use Acronis TrueImage for HD imaging. It doesn't have DOS network
drivers because the boot version (i.e. the non-Windows version) is
based on Linux and not on DOS. And the TI boot version does actually
have a large set of Linux network drivers, but not every conceivable
one of course, maybe including yours.
With my network cards, TI works without requiring Windows.

Peter

John

2005-05-03, 5:47 pm

Image for Windows can do this see http://terabyteunlimited.com/prodgrid.html

John
"Peter Frank" <peter_frankde@yahoo.de> wrote in message
news:1115129220.806759.123410@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Ciccio wrote:
>
> I use Acronis TrueImage for HD imaging. It doesn't have DOS network
> drivers because the boot version (i.e. the non-Windows version) is
> based on Linux and not on DOS. And the TI boot version does actually
> have a large set of Linux network drivers, but not every conceivable
> one of course, maybe including yours.
> With my network cards, TI works without requiring Windows.
>
> Peter
>



Steven Toney

2005-05-03, 8:45 pm

I use True Image on my IBM thinkpad in 2 ways -- both windows and the boot
CD (linux) across the wired Lan and with wireless in windows

I also have the ultrabay tray that lets me remove the DVD -- slide in a
second HD and backup and restore from that internal to the IBM

works slick -- I have tested restore to spare 40gig drives I have

steve

"Peter Frank" <peter_frankde@yahoo.de> wrote in message
news:1115129220.806759.123410@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Ciccio wrote:
>
> I use Acronis TrueImage for HD imaging. It doesn't have DOS network
> drivers because the boot version (i.e. the non-Windows version) is
> based on Linux and not on DOS. And the TI boot version does actually
> have a large set of Linux network drivers, but not every conceivable
> one of course, maybe including yours.
> With my network cards, TI works without requiring Windows.
>
> Peter
>



Jim

2005-05-05, 5:47 pm

Steve;

Could you explain to me in detail how you restore from the tray drive
without a floppy or CD? From what I gather, you use TI to make an
image of the C: drive on your say D: drive in the tray. So, on that
drive you have a file called D.tib or some such. Can you explain in
detail just how you restore from this drive without floppy or CD, and
assuming your normal C: drive is trashed? I've never figured a way
how to do this and would really like to know just how you do it.

Thanks,

Jim






On Tue, 03 May 2005 23:37:44 GMT, "Steven Toney" <toneys@ibm.net>
wrote:

>I use True Image on my IBM thinkpad in 2 ways -- both windows and the boot
>CD (linux) across the wired Lan and with wireless in windows
>
>I also have the ultrabay tray that lets me remove the DVD -- slide in a
>second HD and backup and restore from that internal to the IBM
>
>works slick -- I have tested restore to spare 40gig drives I have
>
>steve
>
>"Peter Frank" <peter_frankde@yahoo.de> wrote in message
>news:1115129220.806759.123410@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>


Howard Kaikow

2005-05-05, 5:47 pm

I don't have True Image, but I would guess that you boot from it's disaster
recovery CD, which installs a Linux system, and from there you install files
from your backup media.

Retrospect installs a temporary OS from which you use Retrospect to restore
backup sets.

--
http://www.standards.com/; See Howard Kaikow's web site.
"Jim" <wdxp@cox.net> wrote in message
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4ax.com...
> Steve;
>
> Could you explain to me in detail how you restore from the tray drive
> without a floppy or CD? From what I gather, you use TI to make an
> image of the C: drive on your say D: drive in the tray. So, on that
> drive you have a file called D.tib or some such. Can you explain in
> detail just how you restore from this drive without floppy or CD, and
> assuming your normal C: drive is trashed? I've never figured a way
> how to do this and would really like to know just how you do it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 03 May 2005 23:37:44 GMT, "Steven Toney" <toneys@ibm.net>
> wrote:
>
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>



Steven Toney

2005-05-05, 5:47 pm

I tested a few different way

I back up to tray drive while in XP -- restored over exiting XP install from
current XP

I backup to tray drive while in XP -- remove tray base HD place in USB
carrier, boot from TI CD in bay or notebook, access HD with image in USB
carrier for restore

I backup to network drive while in XP -- place another primer HD in Notebook
, boot from TI CD in bay, access TIB on network (This method works best and
is actually very fast I have tested disaster recovery from network base
image on all my 4 PC -- works great - access network shares from other PC,
my server and from a USB drive connected to one of this 80 buck device from
linksys or dlink that turns usb drive into small NASes

I was going to see if I could partiton the tray drive and have a bootable HD
segment with TI boot image on it that could then go after image on another
partition of the drive -- I was distracted with other stuff and never go to
see if this was doable

the network method method works greats -- so it was not a high priority

I keep a couple of images for each system on a couple of harddrives for
safety


"Howard Kaikow" <kaikow@standards.com> wrote in message
news:d5e13o$2ipo$1@pyrite.mv.net...
>I don't have True Image, but I would guess that you boot from it's
>disaster
> recovery CD, which installs a Linux system, and from there you install
> files
> from your backup media.
>
> Retrospect installs a temporary OS from which you use Retrospect to
> restore
> backup sets.
>
> --
> http://www.standards.com/; See Howard Kaikow's web site.
> "Jim" <wdxp@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:n6sk715ak3cm23q6kho8fid8u6lno4u5l3@
4ax.com...
> boot
>
>



Jim

2005-05-06, 5:46 pm

No Howard, as to use the CD you have to remove the second hard drive.
The CD uses the same spot that the 2nd hard drive occupies, otherwise
it would work just fine. Same for floppy, floppy adapter uses same
slot.

Jim




On Thu, 5 May 2005 16:54:19 -0400, "Howard Kaikow"
<kaikow@standards.com> wrote:

>I don't have True Image, but I would guess that you boot from it's disaster
>recovery CD, which installs a Linux system, and from there you install files
>from your backup media.
>
>Retrospect installs a temporary OS from which you use Retrospect to restore
>backup sets.


Jim

2005-05-06, 5:46 pm

I see, all of your methods require external equipment of some kind or
another.

The only way I can figure out how to do it without external hardware
would be to use an identical hard drive as you now have for the C:
drive installed in the 2nd drive tray (D: drive), then use TI to clone
the C: drive onto the drive in the 2nd drive tray (D: drive), (not a
regular compressed image, but a clone). Then, if C: drive crashes,
you can remove the drive from 2nd drive tray and swap it with the
original C: drive.

Do you think that method would work OK? That way you wouldn't need
any external USB, FIREWIRE, NETWORK or other equipment.

I never have been able to get my R40 to boot reliably from 2nd drive
tray, have you? If so, just how do you do it?

Thanks,

Jim





On Thu, 05 May 2005 22:48:48 GMT, "Steven Toney" <toneys@ibm.net>
wrote:

>I tested a few different way
>
>I back up to tray drive while in XP -- restored over exiting XP install from
>current XP
>
>I backup to tray drive while in XP -- remove tray base HD place in USB
>carrier, boot from TI CD in bay or notebook, access HD with image in USB
>carrier for restore
>
>I backup to network drive while in XP -- place another primer HD in Notebook
>, boot from TI CD in bay, access TIB on network (This method works best and
>is actually very fast I have tested disaster recovery from network base
>image on all my 4 PC -- works great - access network shares from other PC,
>my server and from a USB drive connected to one of this 80 buck device from
>linksys or dlink that turns usb drive into small NASes
>
>I was going to see if I could partiton the tray drive and have a bootable HD
>segment with TI boot image on it that could then go after image on another
>partition of the drive -- I was distracted with other stuff and never go to
>see if this was doable
>
>the network method method works greats -- so it was not a high priority
>
>I keep a couple of images for each system on a couple of harddrives for
>safety
>
>
>"Howard Kaikow" <kaikow@standards.com> wrote in message
>news:d5e13o$2ipo$1@pyrite.mv.net...
>


dale@nowhere.not

2005-05-06, 5:46 pm

I would suggest trying Image for Windows and Image for DOS at:
www.terabyteunlimited.com. You can create an image on CD (or DVD)
that will bootable for restoring the image. There products work
great.

I also own Acronis True Image and Powerquest Drive Image 5 & 7, but no
longer use them.

Dale

On Mon, 02 May 2005 06:41:35 GMT, Ciccio
<ciccio.unicoTOGLIMI@libero.it> wrote:

>I have a notebook with only one HD.
>What's software for backup image HD, with driver for network in DOS?
>Ghost dont have a driver DOS for network.
>Acronis True Image idem!
>Thanks


Steven Toney

2005-05-06, 5:46 pm

I have a T23 -- thining of getting T42? newer model -- can still use my dock
station and accessories

I can have 3 spindles with the dock station also

I can always boot from the 2nd drive if I first go into the bios to ensure
the boot order is correct

I think it could be done with 2 spindle with multiple partitions on the
second drive - if TI supported building a boot partition on the drive == I
just have not tried to build this yet since the networking method works so
well


"Jim" <wdxp@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4fpm71pm7n38i6t2ohqkf14muu6app6565@
4ax.com...
>I see, all of your methods require external equipment of some kind or
> another.
>
> The only way I can figure out how to do it without external hardware
> would be to use an identical hard drive as you now have for the C:
> drive installed in the 2nd drive tray (D: drive), then use TI to clone
> the C: drive onto the drive in the 2nd drive tray (D: drive), (not a
> regular compressed image, but a clone). Then, if C: drive crashes,
> you can remove the drive from 2nd drive tray and swap it with the
> original C: drive.
>
> Do you think that method would work OK? That way you wouldn't need
> any external USB, FIREWIRE, NETWORK or other equipment.
>
> I never have been able to get my R40 to boot reliably from 2nd drive
> tray, have you? If so, just how do you do it?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 05 May 2005 22:48:48 GMT, "Steven Toney" <toneys@ibm.net>
> wrote:
>
>



Jim

2005-05-07, 7:45 am

Hi Dale,

I'll look into that program. TI will backup to DVD's or CD also, but
if you have a 100 Gb drive it would take some time to back it up.
Heck, even with a hard drive it takes a bit of time.






On Fri, 06 May 2005 12:29:40 -0600, dale@nowhere.not wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
>I would suggest trying Image for Windows and Image for DOS at:
>www.terabyteunlimited.com. You can create an image on CD (or DVD)
>that will bootable for restoring the image. There products work
>great.
>
>I also own Acronis True Image and Powerquest Drive Image 5 & 7, but no
>longer use them.
>
>Dale
>
>On Mon, 02 May 2005 06:41:35 GMT, Ciccio
><ciccio.unicoTOGLIMI@libero.it> wrote:
>

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