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Bob Holiday

2005-08-20, 5:50 pm

Using Norton Symantec Ghost 9 with XP Home. Backing up my C-drive to an
external USB F-drive.

OK, I made a base backup. After that, I successfully made one incremental
backup. But now, when I go to manually make subsequent incremental backups,
a new base backup is created each time. Yes, the dot is filled in under
"Incremental Backup."

So I've started all over, making a new base backup. But the same problem
recurs.

What am I doing wrong?!? Thanks for any help!


John .

2005-08-20, 5:50 pm

"Bob Holiday" <Bob4579@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Using Norton Symantec Ghost 9 with XP Home. Backing up my C-drive to an
>external USB F-drive.
>
>OK, I made a base backup. After that, I successfully made one incremental
>backup. But now, when I go to manually make subsequent incremental backups,
>a new base backup is created each time. Yes, the dot is filled in under
>"Incremental Backup."
>
>So I've started all over, making a new base backup. But the same problem
>recurs.
>
>What am I doing wrong?!? Thanks for any help!
>


I've seen the same thing sometimes. Ghost seems to analyze how many
sectors have changed and if it's too many, then automatically makes
the baseline instead.

If you settings were to make an incremental each night, you might get
one or two days (depending upon how active the partitions are that
were backed up) of incrementals before it automatically creates the
baseline again.
Bob Holiday

2005-08-20, 5:50 pm

Thanks for your quick reply, John. I don't think that's it--let me explain
why. The problem will occur anytime; for example, it could be right after I
make a base backup, do one incremental, and then do another incremental
right after that. And BTW, it does the same thing whether I do a manual
incremental, or if it's done automatically via a backup job--it creates a
new baseline backup each time.

> If you settings were to make an incremental each night, you might get
> one or two days (depending upon how active the partitions are that
> were backed up) of incrementals before it automatically creates the
> baseline again.



John .

2005-08-20, 5:50 pm

"Bob Holiday" <Bob4579@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Thanks for your quick reply, John. I don't think that's it--let me explain
>why. The problem will occur anytime; for example, it could be right after I
>make a base backup, do one incremental, and then do another incremental
>right after that. And BTW, it does the same thing whether I do a manual
>incremental, or if it's done automatically via a backup job--it creates a
>new baseline backup each time.
>
>


Maybe there is some other explanation. But I think it is due to
activity on the drive. Data partitions (which infrequently changed
pictures or documents files) don't seem to require full baselines as
often.

Also, if the drive is the c: partition, then the fragmentation or how
often you defrag is a consideration. Just a few minutes of Internet
activity will put all kinds of temp Internet files all over c: drive
in little "holes" that are available. If your c: isn't defraged and
optimized, all those little fills can mean a lot of sectors that have
changed, and hence a full base line backup.

Two well known defragmenters are PerfectDisk www.raxco.com and
diskeeper www.diskeeper.com

I defrag (I use PerfectDisk myself) BEFORE backing up.

If it's not these answers, then I don't know.
trs80

2005-08-21, 5:47 pm

I have 4 pcs w/XP all with ghost. 2 and backing to network drive and all
will not do incrementals and I have tried everything.....turning off
restore, etc. Even now I notice even the other 2 pcs are inexplicably
starting to do baseline backups. I have reinstaled, updated and there has
not been an update in a long long time. The drives are not even 30% used.
I think the only solution is to get Acronis True image to be honest as
Norton support is totally silent on my support requests.
..
"Bob Holiday" <Bob4579@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:11gegkt1ef9i465@corp.supernews.com...
> Using Norton Symantec Ghost 9 with XP Home. Backing up my C-drive to an
> external USB F-drive.
>
> OK, I made a base backup. After that, I successfully made one incremental
> backup. But now, when I go to manually make subsequent incremental
> backups, a new base backup is created each time. Yes, the dot is filled in
> under "Incremental Backup."
>
> So I've started all over, making a new base backup. But the same problem
> recurs.
>
> What am I doing wrong?!? Thanks for any help!
>



John .

2005-08-21, 5:47 pm

"Bob Holiday" <Bob4579@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Using Norton Symantec Ghost 9 with XP Home. Backing up my C-drive to an
>external USB F-drive.
>
>OK, I made a base backup. After that, I successfully made one incremental
>backup. But now, when I go to manually make subsequent incremental backups,
>a new base backup is created each time. Yes, the dot is filled in under
>"Incremental Backup."
>
>So I've started all over, making a new base backup. But the same problem
>recurs.
>
>What am I doing wrong?!? Thanks for any help!
>


You might also try posting your question to
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage where a lot of Ghost people hang out.
Steve

2005-08-23, 5:47 pm

So then, Norton looks at a drive and sees which DISC SECTORS have changed,
rather than which FILES have changed or are new or deleted?? Damn. I have
a c: drive with windows, email, and about 100GB of files, most of which
never move. It's a mighty waste to constantly re-do a backup of all that.
There's gotta be a better way! Maybe I need to move the big files off the
c: drive....


"John ." <john@notme.com> wrote in message
news:3mseg19pb700df9ip5090ibr24js56uo4r@
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> "Bob Holiday" <Bob4579@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
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>
> Maybe there is some other explanation. But I think it is due to
> activity on the drive. Data partitions (which infrequently changed
> pictures or documents files) don't seem to require full baselines as
> often.
>
> Also, if the drive is the c: partition, then the fragmentation or how
> often you defrag is a consideration. Just a few minutes of Internet
> activity will put all kinds of temp Internet files all over c: drive
> in little "holes" that are available. If your c: isn't defraged and
> optimized, all those little fills can mean a lot of sectors that have
> changed, and hence a full base line backup.
>
> Two well known defragmenters are PerfectDisk www.raxco.com and
> diskeeper www.diskeeper.com
>
> I defrag (I use PerfectDisk myself) BEFORE backing up.
>
> If it's not these answers, then I don't know.



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