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30 hours to complete backup???
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| Joe S. 2006-12-17, 7:13 am |
| I have not backed up my new computer since I purchased it several weeks
ago -- so -- I purchased "PC Backup", installed the software, and started a
backup.
I run WinXP Home on an HP a1520y computer. The computer has one HD -- 140
GB with only 21 GB used. I was backing up to a Seagate 100 GB external HD.
My plan was to backup to the external HD weekly and between backup sessions
disconnect the external HD and store it. My first backup would be a
complete backup of drive C then I would backup only files that had changed
since the last backup.
I started the PC Backup at 0100 Sunday morning. When I got up at 0715 I
expected the backup to be completed. Instead, PC Backup's progress chart
showed the backup 21 percent complete -- it had been running for a little
over 6 hours, with almost 24 more hours left to complete the backup.
This cannot be right -- 30 hours to backup my C drive?
Before Hurricane Katrina I had an application called "Backup One" or
something like that -- it completed a backup in less than an hour.
Am I doing something wrong; should I ditch this PC Backup for another
application; or, is this normal?
Thanks.
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| beenthere 2006-12-17, 7:13 am |
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"Joe S." <anon@mous.net> wrote in message
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>I have not backed up my new computer since I purchased it several weeks
>ago -- so -- I purchased "PC Backup", installed the software, and started a
>backup.
>
> I run WinXP Home on an HP a1520y computer. The computer has one HD -- 140
> GB with only 21 GB used. I was backing up to a Seagate 100 GB external
> HD. My plan was to backup to the external HD weekly and between backup
> sessions disconnect the external HD and store it. My first backup would
> be a complete backup of drive C then I would backup only files that had
> changed since the last backup.
>
> I started the PC Backup at 0100 Sunday morning. When I got up at 0715 I
> expected the backup to be completed. Instead, PC Backup's progress chart
> showed the backup 21 percent complete -- it had been running for a little
> over 6 hours, with almost 24 more hours left to complete the backup.
>
> This cannot be right -- 30 hours to backup my C drive?
>
Get yourself a copy of Acronis True Image.
You could also use SyncBack for your incrementals.
http://www.acronis.com/homecomputin...ucts/trueimage/
http://www.2brightsparks.com/downloads.html#freeware
bw..OJ
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| Joe S. 2006-12-17, 7:16 pm |
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"(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> wrote in message
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> Per Joe S.:
>
> I use something from Dantz called "Retrospect". It's a sort of love-hate
> relationship. Pretty good functionality, pitiful UI.
>
> Anyhow... Retrospect shows me the I/O speed as it's backing up.
>
> My experience has been that Windows XP's handling of USB2 connections is
> sometimes poor. For me, normal rates are 800 kbps and above - and that's
> what I
> get most of the time. But sometimes it starts out ok and just keeps
> dropping
> until it's at something like 20 kbps... When that happens, I just kill the
> backup and try again sometime later after the system's rebooted.
>
> I'd think the falling rate thing would be a possible cause of what you are
> seeing. On the surface, more a system thing than a backup application
> thing.
> --
> PeteCresswell
Thanks.
Well, I'm giving up on backup software.
I spent $49.99 on Acronis True Image 9.0. When I tried to back up with it,
it told me 2 hours, which is fine. But, about 30 minutes into the back up
it aborts, says the operation failed and is terminating. Tried three times,
same result. Piss on it.
Ditto for $29.95 PC Backup -- 30 hours.
I then tried Windows XP backup -- 26 hours was the estimate.
Screw it.
I have a set of recovery CD's and I have the original installation CD's for
all my applications. Once a week I'll copy to the external HD:
-- Excel docs
-- Word docs
-- Address book
-- Favorites
-- E-mail
-- Genealogy files
-- Photos
-- Scans, and,
-- The HD versions of the four websites I maintain.
Meanwhile, I'll remove Acronis and PC Backup from the computer and mark it
up to experience.
When the computer crashes, I'll run the recovery CD's, re-install the
applications, then copy my saved files.
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| beenthere 2006-12-17, 7:16 pm |
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"Joe S." <anon@mous.net> wrote in message
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> "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> wrote in message
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> Meanwhile, I'll remove Acronis and PC Backup from the computer and mark it
> up to experience.
>
> When the computer crashes, I'll run the recovery CD's, re-install the
> applications, then copy my saved files.
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Don`t give up Joe.
Acronis has never failed me yet.
It backs up my (9gig) in about 20 minutes.
I would suggest your drive might be needing a
good cleaning out with something like CCleaner.
Then a defrag.
Have you created the Acronis CD, so you can boot
directly to it on start up ?.
It can work directly, instead of through the OS.
Also take up my suggestion of SyncBack it`s excellent
for backing up folders etc.
http://www.2brightsparks.com/downloads.html#freeware
CrapCleaner from here
http://www.ccleaner.com/download/
Untick ALL, then tick what you want it to clean.
bw..OJ
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| proosakos@gmail.com 2006-12-18, 1:13 pm |
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> Screw it.
>
> I have a set of recovery CD's and I have the original installation CD's for
> all my applications. Once a week I'll copy to the external HD:
> -- Excel docs
> -- Word docs
> -- Address book
> -- Favorites
> -- E-mail
> -- Genealogy files
> -- Photos
> -- Scans, and,
> -- The HD versions of the four websites I maintain.
>
> Meanwhile, I'll remove Acronis and PC Backup from the computer and mark it
> up to experience.
>
> When the computer crashes, I'll run the recovery CD's, re-install the
> applications, then copy my saved files.
Alternatively, if you are only concerned about protecting your data
files, you can subscribe to an online backup service to continuously
protect those files. 30 day free Trial at http://www.titanize.com.
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| Mark F 2006-12-19, 7:14 pm |
| On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 07:35:24 -0500, "Joe S." <anon@mous.net> wrote:
> I have not backed up my new computer since I purchased it several weeks
> ago -- so -- I purchased "PC Backup", installed the software, and started a
> backup.
>
> I run WinXP Home on an HP a1520y computer. The computer has one HD -- 140
> GB with only 21 GB used. I was backing up to a Seagate 100 GB external HD.
> My plan was to backup to the external HD weekly and between backup sessions
> disconnect the external HD and store it. My first backup would be a
> complete backup of drive C then I would backup only files that had changed
> since the last backup.
>
> I started the PC Backup at 0100 Sunday morning. When I got up at 0715 I
> expected the backup to be completed. Instead, PC Backup's progress chart
> showed the backup 21 percent complete -- it had been running for a little
> over 6 hours, with almost 24 more hours left to complete the backup.
>
> This cannot be right -- 30 hours to backup my C drive?
>
> Before Hurricane Katrina I had an application called "Backup One" or
> something like that -- it completed a backup in less than an hour.
>
> Am I doing something wrong; should I ditch this PC Backup for another
> application; or, is this normal?
You say "backup", but what is the actual program that you used?
How is the output drive connected? For some systems a USB 2 port only
runs at USB 1.x speed if something is set the wrong way in the BIOS.
Sometimes the connection is USB 1.x because of some hardware problem,
perhaps even a USB cable. Sometimes what you think is a USB 2 port
is really a USB 1.x port, even though other ports on the system are
USB 2.
What were all of the parameters that you gave to the backup program?
Something may be messed up.
Also, at least one of the many programs that I have for making
ZIP archives decides that it should read the entire archive each
time a file is added to the archive, even if all of the files are
added with the same add to archive command. This takes a long time
when there are 18000 files totaling 1.5 GB.
A virus scanner can slow things down by a factor of 2.
The number of files affects the time. At one time I had a total of 5
different demonstration versions of various CAD programs on a system.
Each version took less than 2GB, but also between 10000 and 20000
files (This would have been a good use for Zip files that the
operating system DIDN'T look into.) Add 70000 files at 1/2 second
each and the backup takes 9 hours just for file open overhead,
compared to 10000MB/30MB/second = 6 minutes.)
The effects of all the problems don't multiply or even add, but
you can easily 5 hours to backup the system, even with pagefile and
hiberfil not getting backed up.
I do all my system backups using a stand-alone program, but I use
NovaStor Nova Backup and VMware virtual disks for small backups
and archiving. The stand-alone backups run at close to the
sequential write speed of the output disk; comparing the clone
and the original typically takes 3 to 7 times as long as doing
the backup. It typically takes me less than 1 1/2 hours to clone
the 2 disks on a system, but the compare takes 7 or more hours.
Doing a clone from Windows might take longer than a compare.
(Some USB Flash memory keys slow down by a factor of more
than 20 when writing small files.
> Thanks.
>
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| Howard Kaikow 2006-12-23, 7:16 pm |
| "Joe S." <anon@mous.net> wrote in message
news:em3djv01fuj@news4.newsguy.com...
> I have not backed up my new computer since I purchased it several weeks
> ago -- so -- I purchased "PC Backup", installed the software, and started
a
> backup.
>
> I run WinXP Home on an HP a1520y computer. The computer has one HD -- 140
> GB with only 21 GB used. I was backing up to a Seagate 100 GB external
HD.
> My plan was to backup to the external HD weekly and between backup
sessions
> disconnect the external HD and store it. My first backup would be a
> complete backup of drive C then I would backup only files that had changed
> since the last backup.
>
> I started the PC Backup at 0100 Sunday morning. When I got up at 0715 I
> expected the backup to be completed. Instead, PC Backup's progress chart
> showed the backup 21 percent complete -- it had been running for a little
> over 6 hours, with almost 24 more hours left to complete the backup.
>
> This cannot be right -- 30 hours to backup my C drive?
>
> Before Hurricane Katrina I had an application called "Backup One" or
> something like that -- it completed a backup in less than an hour.
>
> Am I doing something wrong; should I ditch this PC Backup for another
> application; or, is this normal?
>
> Thanks.
>
If PC Backup is a file based backup, ditch it.
File based backups take a very long time.
Get your self an inage based backup program,
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