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Toolmann

2005-01-27, 8:45 pm

I am unable to achieve much more then 1.2:1 compression ratio on my
backups. I run Windows 2000 and use Veritas Backup Exec 9.1 and a
mixture of Compaq 50/100 and Sony SDX2-50C 50/100 tapes. I have tried
compression settings of "hardware first, then software" as well as
"software only".

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Maxim S. Shatskih

2005-01-27, 8:45 pm

Maybe you backup uncompressable data?

--
Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
StorageCraft Corporation
maxim@storagecraft.com
http://www.storagecraft.com

"Toolmann" <davidrearly@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1106871115.858181.283940@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> I am unable to achieve much more then 1.2:1 compression ratio on my
> backups. I run Windows 2000 and use Veritas Backup Exec 9.1 and a
> mixture of Compaq 50/100 and Sony SDX2-50C 50/100 tapes. I have tried
> compression settings of "hardware first, then software" as well as
> "software only".
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>



Toolmann

2005-01-28, 7:45 am

I am backing up a mixture of MS Office documents, PDF's and pictures.
I think I should expect a little better compression such as 1.5:1 but
maybe I am wrong.

RPR

2005-01-28, 5:45 pm

Compression on tape drives is a lot harder than software compression a
la ZIP. It has to be done in real time, and every block has to be
compressed separately so you can access it individually. As a result,
the compression factors are lower than what you're used to.

Maxim S. Shatskih

2005-01-28, 5:45 pm

PDF is very bad in terms of compression.

--
Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
StorageCraft Corporation
maxim@storagecraft.com
http://www.storagecraft.com

"Toolmann" <davidrearly@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1106919138.812278.292640@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> I am backing up a mixture of MS Office documents, PDF's and pictures.
> I think I should expect a little better compression such as 1.5:1 but
> maybe I am wrong.
>



Maxim S. Shatskih

2005-01-28, 5:45 pm

> Compression on tape drives is a lot harder than software compression a
> la ZIP. It has to be done in real time,


Yes, and also memory is usually scarse. You cannot run PPM algorithm on a
drive, and I even have doubts you can run BWT there (due to unpredictable time
degradation on "bad" data). So, only LZ, which is the bad algorithm for any
well-compressable data.

--
Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
StorageCraft Corporation
maxim@storagecraft.com
http://www.storagecraft.com


RPR

2005-01-31, 8:45 pm

PPM or BWT sure would be cool but I don't think anybody has designed
silicon for them (yet?). LZ seems like the only game in town today.

Anton Rang

2005-02-02, 5:45 pm

"Maxim S. Shatskih" <maxim@storagecraft.com> writes:

>
> Yes, and also memory is usually scarse. You cannot run PPM algorithm on a
> drive, and I even have doubts you can run BWT there (due to unpredictable time
> degradation on "bad" data). So, only LZ, which is the bad algorithm for any
> well-compressable data.


The ALDC (Adaptive Lossless Data Compression) algorithm is an ECMA standard:

http://www.ecma-international.org/p...ST/Ecma-222.pdf

It uses a history buffer no larger than 2K, so even as LZ compressors go, it's
very modest.

-- Anton
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