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How to make CD bootable in XP Professional?
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| A.Melon 2005-04-21, 5:46 pm |
| I downloaded Acronis True Image and made a bootable CD as per their
program.
However, I have no idea if my CD driver is capable of booting the
computer.
The computer is a new Dell w/XP Pro. Dell no longer gives out a copy of
the OS with the machine, so I have no idea if my computer is capable of
booting from any other CD.
How do I find out if it is? I don't want to sit around with a
"bootable" disk that my computer cannot use.
(Yes, I've searched Google, but I don't understand a damn word of those
articles on the subject.)
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| Rod Speed 2005-04-21, 5:46 pm |
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A.Melon <juicy@melontraffickers.com> wrote in message
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> I downloaded Acronis True Image and
> made a bootable CD as per their program.
> However, I have no idea if my CD driver
> is capable of booting the computer.
Presumably you mean CD drive.
> The computer is a new Dell w/XP Pro. Dell no longer
> gives out a copy of the OS with the machine, so I have no
> idea if my computer is capable of booting from any other CD.
Corse it is.
> How do I find out if it is?
Try booting off it, silly.
> I don't want to sit around with a "bootable"
> disk that my computer cannot use.
> (Yes, I've searched Google, but I don't understand
> a damn word of those articles on the subject.)
Even you should be able to manage a more
viable troll than that pathetic effort, child.
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| > I downloaded Acronis True Image and made a bootable CD as per their
> program.
>
> However, I have no idea if my CD driver is capable of booting the
> computer.
>
> The computer is a new Dell w/XP Pro. Dell no longer gives out a copy of
> the OS with the machine, so I have no idea if my computer is capable of
> booting from any other CD.
>
> How do I find out if it is? I don't want to sit around with a
> "bootable" disk that my computer cannot use.
>
> (Yes, I've searched Google, but I don't understand a damn word of those
> articles on the subject.)
Did you get ANY CDs with your Dell?
BTW, which Dell model do you have?
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| Nomen Nescio 2005-04-21, 5:46 pm |
| In article <sCS9e.5735$9G.604100@news20.bellglobal.com>
"Peter" <peterfoxghost@yahoo.ca> wrote:
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>
> Did you get ANY CDs with your Dell?
> BTW, which Dell model do you have?
I did get various discs that are for reinstalling the modem, scanner,
etc. None say anything about XP Pro.
I read in another group that Dell has the OS in a hidden file. The
poster said that Dell told him that if his HD went down, he would have
to order another drive from Dell, and they would put the OS on it for
him.
This is really ridiculous when they do not supply such a crucial
necessity as a copy of the OS. Of course, it's the fault of the greedy
bastard in Redmond.
I have a Dell 8400 w/XP Pro on it.
By the way, I did put the bootable CD in the drive and it did not boot
the computer. The computer booted as usual from the C: drive.
This is *really* ridiculous.
Acronis gives the option of placing the bootable files on 17 floppies.
Yeah, I *really* want to do that.
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| Rod Speed 2005-04-21, 5:46 pm |
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"Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
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zum.com...
> In article <sCS9e.5735$9G.604100@news20.bellglobal.com>
> "Peter" <peterfoxghost@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
> I did get various discs that are for reinstalling the modem, scanner,
> etc. None say anything about XP Pro.
>
> I read in another group that Dell has the OS in a hidden file. The
> poster said that Dell told him that if his HD went down, he would have
> to order another drive from Dell, and they would put the OS on it for
> him.
>
> This is really ridiculous when they do not supply such a crucial
> necessity as a copy of the OS. Of course, it's the fault of the greedy
> bastard in Redmond.
>
> I have a Dell 8400 w/XP Pro on it.
>
> By the way, I did put the bootable CD in the drive and it did not boot
> the computer. The computer booted as usual from the C: drive.
You just need to include the CD drive in the boot sequence in the bios.
> This is *really* ridiculous.
Nope.
> Acronis gives the option of placing the bootable files on 17 floppies.
> Yeah, I *really* want to do that.
No need except when you dont have a CD drive.
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| > "Peter" <peterfoxghost@yahoo.ca> wrote:
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>
> I did get various discs that are for reinstalling the modem, scanner,
> etc. None say anything about XP Pro.
>
> I read in another group that Dell has the OS in a hidden file. The
> poster said that Dell told him that if his HD went down, he would have
> to order another drive from Dell, and they would put the OS on it for
> him.
>
> This is really ridiculous when they do not supply such a crucial
> necessity as a copy of the OS. Of course, it's the fault of the greedy
> bastard in Redmond.
>
> I have a Dell 8400 w/XP Pro on it.
>
> By the way, I did put the bootable CD in the drive and it did not boot
> the computer. The computer booted as usual from the C: drive.
>
> This is *really* ridiculous.
>
> Acronis gives the option of placing the bootable files on 17 floppies.
> Yeah, I *really* want to do that.
Method 1:
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When your computer boots up press F12
Select CD ROM to boot from
Method 2:
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When your computer boots up press F2
Check what settings you have in Drives section,
do you see CD ROM there?
If not, change appropriate value.
If yes, check Boot Sequence section. Is CD-ROM listed
above Hard Drive? If not, change sequence.
read pages 111-117 on:
http://support.dell.com/support/edo...m/U70350LRs.pdf
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| Maxim S. Shatskih 2005-04-22, 2:46 am |
| Look in BIOS setup screens, the chapter "Boot"
--
Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
StorageCraft Corporation
maxim@storagecraft.com
http://www.storagecraft.com
"A.Melon" <juicy@melontraffickers.com> wrote in message
news:e41a872f35a7a4e92c4be6fd93f32cc5@me
lontraffickers.com...
> I downloaded Acronis True Image and made a bootable CD as per their
> program.
>
> However, I have no idea if my CD driver is capable of booting the
> computer.
>
> The computer is a new Dell w/XP Pro. Dell no longer gives out a copy of
> the OS with the machine, so I have no idea if my computer is capable of
> booting from any other CD.
>
> How do I find out if it is? I don't want to sit around with a
> "bootable" disk that my computer cannot use.
>
> (Yes, I've searched Google, but I don't understand a damn word of those
> articles on the subject.)
>
> ~
>
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| Maxim S. Shatskih 2005-04-22, 2:46 am |
| > This is really ridiculous when they do not supply such a crucial
> necessity as a copy of the OS. Of course, it's the fault of the greedy
> bastard in Redmond.
Microsoft is responsible for Dell's faults?
Really funny, thanks 
--
Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
StorageCraft Corporation
maxim@storagecraft.com
http://www.storagecraft.com
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| chrisv 2005-04-22, 5:46 pm |
| Nomen Nescio wrote:
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>I did get various discs that are for reinstalling the modem, scanner,
>etc. None say anything about XP Pro.
Hmm... I just had a "friend" (actually a hot woman) ask me to help
her fix (read: wipe and reinstall) her Dell. I was wanting to do
her^H^H^Hit, but it looks like I may not be able to, eh?
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| turk2045 2005-04-22, 5:46 pm |
| U have to get into ur setup through the bios.
First , if ur switched off , switch on comp and press F2 u should see a
page that will tell u how to do this . If its not F2 then try F8.
If this doesnt help email me and ill try to help more
Rgards Steve (turk2045.)
savers200@hotmail.co.uk
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| Nomen Nescio 2005-04-23, 2:45 am |
| In article <d49pqc$rok$1@gavrilo.mtu.ru>
"Maxim S. Shatskih" <maxim@storagecraft.com> wrote:
>
>
> Microsoft is responsible for Dell's faults?
>
> Really funny, thanks
>
> --
> Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
> StorageCraft Corporation
> maxim@storagecraft.com
> http://www.storagecraft.com
My understanding from posts around Usenet is the MS put pressure on the
companies to not give copies of the OS with their computers. It hurts
Redmond's business. Dell was one of the last to cave on this subject.
Also, Dell is in a much more highly competitive situation than is MS.
Where else is one going to get Windows of any kind except from MS?
MS is a master at cheating customers with crapware. Their faulty OS,
full of holes and conflicts. is sold for a ridiculous amount of money.
The try their best to screw you out of its use even after you've bought
by restrictive access to its use in order for them not to lose a dime
through piracy.
Finally, it is not *really* funny. It's not funny in the slightest.
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| Maxim S. Shatskih 2005-04-23, 7:45 am |
| > MS is a master at cheating customers with crapware. Their faulty OS,
> full of holes and conflicts.
No conflicts at all, best security patch distribution policy, best usability,
best hardware support, no architectural holes (only bugs due to developer's
attention problem), best development tools etc.
--
Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
StorageCraft Corporation
maxim@storagecraft.com
http://www.storagecraft.com
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| Nomen Nescio 2005-04-23, 5:46 pm |
| In article <VdX9e.8871$9G.639207@news20.bellglobal.com>
"Peter" <peterfoxghost@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
> of
> of
> those
>
> Method 1:
> ---------------------
> When your computer boots up press F12
> Select CD ROM to boot from
>
> Method 2:
> ---------------------
> When your computer boots up press F2
> Check what settings you have in Drives section,
> do you see CD ROM there?
> If not, change appropriate value.
> If yes, check Boot Sequence section. Is CD-ROM listed
> above Hard Drive? If not, change sequence.
>
> read pages 111-117 on:
> http://support.dell.com/support/edo...m/U70350LRs.pdf
From what I saw when using the F12 key, the sequence in which the
machine looks through is:
1. Floppy
2. SATA C: drive
3. IDE C: drive
4. CD-ROM
If this is the case, why should I worry about changing it?
If I'm understanding this, if it does not find an OS on any of the
first three, it will go to the CD drive. Or am I misunderstanding this?
By the way, thanks for sticking with me through my ignorance. I do
appreciate your patience.
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| Rod Speed 2005-04-23, 5:46 pm |
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"Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
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zum.com...
> In article <VdX9e.8871$9G.639207@news20.bellglobal.com>
> "Peter" <peterfoxghost@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
> From what I saw when using the F12 key, the sequence in which the
> machine looks through is:
>
> 1. Floppy
> 2. SATA C: drive
> 3. IDE C: drive
> 4. CD-ROM
> If this is the case, why should I worry about changing it?
Because it wont boot off the CD unless none
that are higher in the list are bootable.
> If I'm understanding this, if it does not find an OS on any of the
> first three, it will go to the CD drive. Or am I misunderstanding this?
Thats correct, but that is an unusual situation with a system
thats been used at all, so it will never boot off the CD.
> By the way, thanks for sticking with me through
> my ignorance. I do appreciate your patience.
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| Rod Speed 2005-04-23, 5:46 pm |
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"Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
news:4a63798eff72e2e6fb77447550058e16@di
zum.com...
> In article <d49pqc$rok$1@gavrilo.mtu.ru>
> "Maxim S. Shatskih" <maxim@storagecraft.com> wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
> My understanding from posts around Usenet is the MS
> put pressure on the companies to not give copies of the
> OS with their computers. It hurts Redmond's business.
That's a lie.
> Dell was one of the last to cave on this subject.
Dell chose to do it like that for THEIR convenience.
> Also, Dell is in a much more highly competitive situation than is MS.
> Where else is one going to get Windows of any kind except from MS?
> MS is a master at cheating customers with crapware.
Fools like you love any silly conspiracy theory going.
> Their faulty OS, full of holes and conflicts.
No one is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to use it.
> is sold for a ridiculous amount of money.
No one is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to use it.
> The try their best to screw you out of its use even
> after you've bought by restrictive access to its use
> in order for them not to lose a dime through piracy.
No one is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to use it.
> Finally, it is not *really* funny. It's not funny in the slightest.
No one is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to use it.
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| > > Method 1:
http://support.dell.com/support/edo...m/U70350LRs.pdf[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> From what I saw when using the F12 key, the sequence in which the
> machine looks through is:
>
> 1. Floppy
> 2. SATA C: drive
> 3. IDE C: drive
> 4. CD-ROM
>
> If this is the case, why should I worry about changing it?
>
> If I'm understanding this, if it does not find an OS on any of the
> first three, it will go to the CD drive. Or am I misunderstanding this?
>
> By the way, thanks for sticking with me through my ignorance. I do
> appreciate your patience.
The purpose of using F12 is to see a SELECTION list from which
you can choose how to perform a CURRENT BOOT ONLY,
not to see a boot sequence order.
Boot order you can see/change after hitting F2 (System Setup) and
selecting a Boot Sequence menu option.
What your Boot Sequence says?
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| chrisv 2005-04-26, 5:46 pm |
| chrisv wrote:
>Nomen Nescio wrote:
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>Hmm... I just had a "friend" (actually a hot woman) ask me to help
>her fix (read: wipe and reinstall) her Dell. I was wanting to do
>her^H^H^Hit, but it looks like I may not be able to, eh?
Update: Her cheap Dell*, bought about a year ago, does indeed have
the XP disk included.
*What a wretched machine. Celeron 2.0, 15" CRT, and only 128M of DDR!
Why do people buy computers without consulting someone who has a clue
first?
Anyway, I'm going to bump her up to 512M, throw-in a Northwood 2.2
that I had collecting dust, and do the fresh XP install. I think
she'll be amazed at the improvement. 8)
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