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ANOTHER REASON WHY LINUX SUCKS.

Sally Vadi

2005-09-13, 2:46 am

Juk with 20k mp3's. Try typing something into the search bar and wait,
and wait and wait and wait for the cursor to catch up. This is on a P4
3.6ghz machine.

Amarok Has ANYONE been able to make this POS work?
It crashes all the time and seems to want to scan my collection of mp3
files every time I start it up.
And the interface?
YUK
What kind of moron designed the interface?
What the hell is Gstreamer?
Yet ANOTHER Linux sound driver?
Why so many Linux sound drivers?

Personally I would settle for ONE SOUND DRIVER that actually worked and
allowed me to specify what soundcard is associated with what program, I
have 3 cards.

I would also like sharing of soundcards, IOW being able to have a
soundcard provide output to more than one program at a time.

Windows does all this easily, and by default with ONE soundsystem.

Why can't Linux?

Why?

Because Linux sucks.

Linønut

2005-09-13, 7:46 am

Sally Vadi poked his little head through the XP firewall and said:

> Personally I would settle for ONE SOUND DRIVER that actually worked and
> allowed me to specify what soundcard is associated with what program, I
> have 3 cards.
>
> I would also like sharing of soundcards, IOW being able to have a
> soundcard provide output to more than one program at a time.
>
> Windows does all this easily, and by default with ONE soundsystem.
>
> Why can't Linux?
>
> Why?
>
> Because Linux sucks.

No, because you can't even read the freakin' manual for your sound
applications. They all have ways to direct the output to
whatever sound card you want.

But shmell da caca, you're just a troll!

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Jafar As-Sadiq Calley

2005-09-13, 5:53 pm

On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 21:32:48 -0700, Sally Vadi wrote:

> Amarok Has ANYONE been able to make this POS work?

Yes and quite well on Gentoo, Debian and Fedora machines.

> And the interface?
> YUK
> What kind of moron designed the interface?

It's open source. Get involved and change it yourself if you think you can
do better.

> What the hell is Gstreamer?
> Yet ANOTHER Linux sound driver?

"GStreamer is a streaming-media framework, based on graphs of filters which
operate on media data. Applications using this library can do anything
from real-time sound processing to playing videos, and just about anything
else media-related."
http://sourceforge.net/projects/gstreamer/

> Why so many Linux sound drivers?

Choice.

> Personally I would settle for ONE SOUND DRIVER that actually worked and
> allowed me to specify what soundcard is associated with what program, I
> have 3 cards.

My choice for such a task is Alsa. It happily supports the 3 soundcards I
have in my PC and 2 others which are currently orphaned without PC's.

> I would also like sharing of soundcards, IOW being able to have a
> soundcard provide output to more than one program at a time.

I thought that was standard. Maybe you just have a crap soundcard.

> Windows does all this easily, and by default with ONE soundsystem.

Windows has more than one soundsystem.

> Why can't Linux?

Because you are a stupid troll?

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Blood Money

2005-09-13, 5:53 pm

Sally Vadi wrote:

<snipped like a poor bastard mutt>

> Because Linux sucks.

You are the sucking expert.
Can you get your ankles behind your ears?

TheLetterK

2005-09-13, 5:53 pm

Sally Vadi wrote:
> Juk with 20k mp3's. Try typing something into the search bar and wait,
> and wait and wait and wait for the cursor to catch up. This is on a P4
> 3.6ghz machine.
Sure your not underclocking? That's probably quite a bit faster (you
are, after all, only as fast as your slowest component) than my Linux
box, yet performs tasks so much slower.

>
> Amarok Has ANYONE been able to make this POS work?
Plenty.

> And the interface?
> YUK
> What kind of moron designed the interface?
Don't know, don't care. Seems reasonable.

> What the hell is Gstreamer?
Multimedia framework framework for GNOME

> Yet ANOTHER Linux sound driver?
Not even close, though I suppose it is vaguely related to 'multimedia
stuff'.

> Why so many Linux sound drivers?
Because everyone feels they need something different? Though really
there aren't very many sound DRIVERS. You are confusing sound drivers
with sound daemons.

>
> Personally I would settle for ONE SOUND DRIVER that actually worked and
> allowed me to specify what soundcard is associated with what program, I
> have 3 cards.
ALSA works, and most people are using it these days. What is your
problem again? Oh, right, you're confusing sound daemons with soundcard
drivers.

>
> I would also like sharing of soundcards, IOW being able to have a
> soundcard provide output to more than one program at a time.
>
> Windows does all this easily, and by default with ONE soundsystem.
No it doesn't.

>
> Why can't Linux?
It can. It's actually quite easy to do what you're talking about (sound
daemons were developed to overcome the very problem you want implemented).

>
> Why?
>
> Because Linux sucks.
No, you suck, you ignorant troll.

Darklight

2005-09-14, 7:46 am

Sally Vadi wrote:

look this person is just a monkey, don't you know monkeys
can't use computers

C.J.

2005-09-15, 7:46 am

Sally Vadi wrote:
> Juk with 20k mp3's. Try typing something into the search bar and wait,
> and wait and wait and wait for the cursor to catch up. This is on a P4
> 3.6ghz machine.
>
> Amarok Has ANYONE been able to make this POS work?
> It crashes all the time and seems to want to scan my collection of mp3
> files every time I start it up.
> And the interface?
> YUK
> What kind of moron designed the interface?
> What the hell is Gstreamer?
> Yet ANOTHER Linux sound driver?
> Why so many Linux sound drivers?
>
> Personally I would settle for ONE SOUND DRIVER that actually worked and
> allowed me to specify what soundcard is associated with what program, I
> have 3 cards.
>
> I would also like sharing of soundcards, IOW being able to have a
> soundcard provide output to more than one program at a time.
>
> Windows does all this easily, and by default with ONE soundsystem.
>
> Why can't Linux?
>
> Why?
>
> Because Linux sucks.
>

I think the moral of this story is, if this moron is really that thick,
that Microsoft users are mindless sheep herded in their computing
experience. Just think how scary they would be if they had MORE power
than they already have.

Sort of like... a computing Big Brother. "Work this way, other ways are
inferior."

Well, not all MS users. I was one.

phil-news-nospam@ipal.net

2005-09-18, 5:47 pm

In comp.os.linux.hardware Sally Vadi <sally_vadi@yahoo.com> wrote:

| Juk with 20k mp3's. Try typing something into the search bar and wait,
| and wait and wait and wait for the cursor to catch up. This is on a P4
| 3.6ghz machine.

My 400 MHz P2 has no problems.

| Amarok Has ANYONE been able to make this POS work?
| It crashes all the time and seems to want to scan my collection of mp3
| files every time I start it up.

"It" what? The file manager program, perhaps?

| And the interface?
| YUK
| What kind of moron designed the interface?

Design your own. Several people have done that already. This is one
of the big advantages of Linux over Windows ... you can change it to
your own liking. Lots of people do. I do, too.

| Yet ANOTHER Linux sound driver?
| Why so many Linux sound drivers?

You'll have to raise that issue with each and every sound card
manufacturer that chose to make the hardware interface different than
others.

| Personally I would settle for ONE SOUND DRIVER that actually worked and
| allowed me to specify what soundcard is associated with what program, I
| have 3 cards.

Different brands of sound cards, and in most cases even different
models by the same brand, work differently in ways that the driver for
one won't function with another. Mismatching drivers can have results
that vary from missing functionality, to incorrect output, to freezing
up the hardware bus entirely.

| I would also like sharing of soundcards, IOW being able to have a
| soundcard provide output to more than one program at a time.

Doable. The quick hack is a sound server program that reads the
captured sound and passes it along to connections made by other
programs. Of course it would be nice if the drivers allowed multiple
open.

| Windows does all this easily, and by default with ONE soundsystem.

No it doesn't. Windows has separate drivers for every type of sound
card. Then it all goes through a common sound interface system. Linux
is just like that. There are drivers for each supported sound card,
and a common sound system (e.g. programs open and read/write a specific
sound device like /dev/dsp).

| Why can't Linux?

It can. It just needs to be packaged right. Buy a computer from a
seller than will install Linux for you, and make sure you have chosen
one that knows what they are doing. Or else do it yourself if you know
how (an option you don't have with Windows).

| Why?
|
| Because Linux sucks.

The real problem is that too many sound card manufacturers and too many
computer retailers refuse to provide Linux support. If they did
provide it, you would not be having problems with products they sell to
you when running Linux.

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