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| Walter Mitty 2005-12-01, 7:46 am |
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I was recommened SLRN as a news reader : its nice simple interface and
console "look" are great.
I have it up and running, have set my chief editor to emacs : fine. I
start SLRN and can subscribe/unsuscribe etc fine.
Two issues I need help with (nothing I could see in manpages):
1) When I trx and post to my servers alt.test it returns with a failure
saying "newsgroup header not set". What/Why is this? There is no
"Newsgroup header" in the edited article prior to post.
2) Why does SLRN reload each newsgroup each session? Surely it can cache
articles?
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| SINNER 2005-12-01, 8:48 pm |
| * Walter Mitty wrote in alt.os.linux.debian:
[news.software.readers added to newsgroup list]
> I was recommened SLRN as a news reader : its nice simple interface and
> console "look" are great.
> I have it up and running, have set my chief editor to emacs : fine. I
> start SLRN and can subscribe/unsuscribe etc fine.
Emacs?! Who recommended you use an OS as an editor for a newsreader ;)
> Two issues I need help with (nothing I could see in manpages):
> 1) When I trx and post to my servers alt.test it returns with a failure
> saying "newsgroup header not set". What/Why is this? There is no
> "Newsgroup header" in the edited article prior to post.
This is strange, How are you starting the post, ie where are in slrn and
what button are you pushing? When you initiate a post in slrn the status
area should ask you what group you wish to post to, if you are already in
or on a group it inserts that name as the answer by default. Without a
newsgroups header slrn has no idea where you want to post.
> 2) Why does SLRN reload each newsgroup each session? Surely it can cache
> articles?
You mean articles you've already read? You need to either change
query_read_group_cutoff (in ~/.slrnrc) which will prompt you for how
many articles you wish to see if there are more than that setting. Also
you need to mark messages that you don't want to see anymore as read so
slrn will not display them. You can do this with the 'd' individually or
the 'c' to Catch Up and mark the whole group as read.
Pressing '?' at anytime will give a list of helpful commands.
If you continue to have questions about slrn come over to
news.software.readers, oh, and don't forget to glance at manual.txt.
--
David
Do not worry about which side your bread is buttered on: you eat BOTH sides.
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| Walter Mitty 2005-12-01, 8:48 pm |
| SINNER wrote:
> * Walter Mitty wrote in alt.os.linux.debian:
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> Emacs?! Who recommended you use an OS as an editor for a newsreader ;)
Used it years ago to program some ADA : loved it.
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> This is strange, How are you starting the post, ie where are in slrn and
> what button are you pushing? When you initiate a post in slrn the status
I am "in my newsgroup" and press "P" to post. After confirming that I
want to post (yuck) it prompts for newsgroup (autofilled to current ng)
and then a subject. It then brings up my configured editor (in this case
emacs, but same happened with vim).
Aargh. It now works. Maybe alt.test was playing up earlier.
> area should ask you what group you wish to post to, if you are already in
> or on a group it inserts that name as the answer by default. Without a
> newsgroups header slrn has no idea where you want to post.
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> You mean articles you've already read? You need to either change
No : the entire list of downloaded headers. e.g one group I subscribe to
has over 14000 articles. It retrieves them each time I use slrn to go
into that newsgroup. Why? Does it not store items automatically? I start
slrn, go into a ng and it prompts me for how many of the 14000 I want to
download.
> query_read_group_cutoff (in ~/.slrnrc) which will prompt you for how
> many articles you wish to see if there are more than that setting. Also
> you need to mark messages that you don't want to see anymore as read so
> slrn will not display them. You can do this with the 'd' individually or
> the 'c' to Catch Up and mark the whole group as read.
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> Pressing '?' at anytime will give a list of helpful commands.
Saw that.
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> If you continue to have questions about slrn come over to
> news.software.readers, oh, and don't forget to glance at manual.txt.
I will after this one : thanks agin for any more info.
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| SINNER 2005-12-01, 8:48 pm |
| * Walter Mitty wrote in alt.os.linux.debian:
> SINNER wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
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> No : the entire list of downloaded headers. e.g one group I subscribe to
> has over 14000 articles. It retrieves them each time I use slrn to go
> into that newsgroup. Why? Does it not store items automatically?
slrn is an ONLINE newsreader with no built-in cache. If you are feeling
brave and have some extra disk space you can configure slrnpull or
leafnode (which I use) to be a local caching server but you will still
get the same results unless you do as described below.
The advantages to a local server are numerous, plus its another toy to
play with 
> I start
> slrn, go into a ng and it prompts me for how many of the 14000 I want to
> download.
You must mark the group read as discussed below.
[vbcol=seagreen]
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David
Why does a hearse horse snicker, hauling a lawyer away?
-- Carl Sandburg
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| Walter Mitty 2005-12-01, 8:48 pm |
| SINNER wrote:
> * Walter Mitty wrote in alt.os.linux.debian:
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Doh.
> brave and have some extra disk space you can configure slrnpull or
> leafnode (which I use) to be a local caching server but you will still
> get the same results unless you do as described below.
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> The advantages to a local server are numerous, plus its another toy to
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I'll do that so. I like to have the entire thread there for context.
used to use XNews with something similar on windows.
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| SINNER 2005-12-01, 8:48 pm |
| * Walter Mitty wrote in alt.os.linux.debian:
[vbcol=seagreen]
> I'll do that so. I like to have the entire thread there for context.
> used to use XNews with something similar on windows.
ESC-P to grab the parent
ESC 1 - ESC P to grab the whole thread.
[there's that pesky ? key again ;)]
This displays one of the advantages to having a local server, performing
the above requires a server round trip, when thats on your harddrive, its
very fast.
--
David
We read to say that we have read.
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| Bill Marcum 2005-12-01, 8:48 pm |
| On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 13:55:48 +0100, Walter Mitty
<mitticus@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I was recommened SLRN as a news reader : its nice simple interface and
> console "look" are great.
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> I have it up and running, have set my chief editor to emacs : fine. I
> start SLRN and can subscribe/unsuscribe etc fine.
>
If you use emacs, why don't you use M-x gnus as a newsreader?
--
Guns don't kill people. It's those damn bullets. Guns just make them go
really really fast.
-- Jake Johanson
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| SINNER 2005-12-01, 8:48 pm |
| * Bill Marcum wrote in alt.os.linux.debian:
> On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 13:55:48 +0100, Walter Mitty
> <mitticus@gmail.com> wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
[vbcol=seagreen]
> If you use emacs, why don't you use M-x gnus as a newsreader?
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>Guns don't kill people. It's those damn bullets. Guns just make them
>go really really fast
After your post, I read your sig and saw Gnus instead of Guns, gave me a
chuckle
--
David
You will be the victim of a bizarre joke.
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| Walter Mitty 2005-12-01, 8:48 pm |
| Bill Marcum wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 13:55:48 +0100, Walter Mitty
> <mitticus@gmail.com> wrote:
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> If you use emacs, why don't you use M-x gnus as a newsreader?
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I might later. I just heard a lot of good things about slrn and wanted
to give it a lash.
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| Walter Mitty 2005-12-01, 8:48 pm |
| SINNER wrote:
> * Walter Mitty wrote in alt.os.linux.debian:
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> ESC-P to grab the parent
> ESC 1 - ESC P to grab the whole thread.
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> [there's that pesky ? key again ;)]
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> This displays one of the advantages to having a local server, performing
> the above requires a server round trip, when thats on your harddrive, its
> very fast.
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Where is manual.txt supposed to be? I did a full system search and
couldnt find it. Checked the package manager too : no sign of it.
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| Peter J Ross 2005-12-01, 8:48 pm |
| On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 23:05:56 +0100, Walter Mitty <mitticus@gmail.com>
wrote in alt.os.linux.debian:
> Where is manual.txt supposed to be? I did a full system search and
> couldnt find it. Checked the package manager too : no sign of it.
In Debian, you should find it here:
/usr/share/doc/manual.txt.gz
There's also an HTML version online:
http://slrn.sourceforge.net/manual/slrn-manual.html
PJR :-)
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| Peter J Ross 2005-12-01, 8:48 pm |
| On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 22:21:59 GMT, Peter J Ross <pjr@kookbusters.org>
wrote in alt.os.linux.debian:
> On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 23:05:56 +0100, Walter Mitty <mitticus@gmail.com>
> wrote in alt.os.linux.debian:
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> In Debian, you should find it here:
> /usr/share/doc/manual.txt.gz
Oops! /usr/share/doc/slrn/manual.txt.gz
PJR :-)
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| Walter Mitty 2005-12-01, 8:48 pm |
| Peter J Ross wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 22:21:59 GMT, Peter J Ross <pjr@kookbusters.org>
> wrote in alt.os.linux.debian:
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> Oops! /usr/share/doc/slrn/manual.txt.gz
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> PJR :-)
Thanks, but alas, nothing there.
(mental note : always put a * at end of search criteria as well as front )
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| Neil Woods 2005-12-01, 8:48 pm |
| >>>>> Walter Mitty writes:
> Bill Marcum wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
> I might later. I just heard a lot of good things about slrn and wanted
> to give it a lash.
I used to use slrn with Emacs (using gnuserv/gnuclient) before switching
to Gnus. There's an elisp package called post.el which integrates
pretty well with slrn (and with mutt as well, if you use that).
<http://www.drao-ofr.hia-iha.nrc-cnr...mutt/post.el.gz>
I highly recommend Gnus however (particularly if you are already
familiar with Emacs). It's very powerful.
Cheers.
--
Neil.
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Cruelty to Yourself. Apply within.
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