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| Jeff Arch 2005-01-28, 7:45 am |
| I'm really interested in trying out Deb for amd 64 but the install looks a
little daunting. I've been using mandrake and suse for a while and am
familiar with CLI (more or less) but after reading the install pages I'm
kind of dismayed. Is it really that hard? And how difficult would it be
installing kernel 2.6.x and KDE 3.3? Thanks.
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| Peter J Ross 2005-01-29, 2:45 am |
| On Friday 28 January, Jeff Arch wrote in alt.os.linux.debian:
> I'm really interested in trying out Deb for amd 64 but the install looks a
> little daunting. I've been using mandrake and suse for a while and am
> familiar with CLI (more or less) but after reading the install pages I'm
> kind of dismayed. Is it really that hard? And how difficult would it be
> installing kernel 2.6.x and KDE 3.3? Thanks.
Your simplest solution would be to get the installer for Debian
Sarge/Testing rather than Debian Woody/Stable. It ought to do hardware
detection about as competently as Mandrake or Suse, and I think the
current kernel in Sarge is 2.6.8 (though you might need to choose the
kernel before installation, 2.4.* being the default), and KDE 3.3 has
recently been included in Sarge.
Some helpful person will probably give you the relevant URLs.
I found that even the old Woody installer wasn't impossibly difficult
to use, so you could probably upgrade from a simple Woody installation
without too many problems.
Once you've got it installed and configured it will probably work like
a dream and you'll never look back. Good luck!
PJR :-)
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| Jeff Arch 2005-01-29, 7:45 am |
| On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 07:56:09 +0000, Peter J Ross wrote:
> On Friday 28 January, Jeff Arch wrote in alt.os.linux.debian:
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> Your simplest solution would be to get the installer for Debian
> Sarge/Testing rather than Debian Woody/Stable. It ought to do hardware
> detection about as competently as Mandrake or Suse, and I think the
> current kernel in Sarge is 2.6.8 (though you might need to choose the
> kernel before installation, 2.4.* being the default), and KDE 3.3 has
> recently been included in Sarge.
>
> Some helpful person will probably give you the relevant URLs.
>
> I found that even the old Woody installer wasn't impossibly difficult
> to use, so you could probably upgrade from a simple Woody installation
> without too many problems.
>
> Once you've got it installed and configured it will probably work like
> a dream and you'll never look back. Good luck!
>
> PJR :-)
What I did was install ubuntu linux, which is based on deb. The installer
was text based and it made setting up partions and choosing the kernel
pretty easy. I'll mess with that for a bit and then try deb on my 64 bit
machine. Or I may stick with ubuntu since I can install almost any debian
package and they have a 64 bit version.
So many distros, so little time.
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| Andreas Janssen 2005-01-29, 7:45 am |
| Hello
Jeff Arch (<jeff@SUSE64.svm> ) wrote:
> What I did was install ubuntu linux, which is based on deb. The
> installer was text based and it made setting up partions and choosing
> the kernel pretty easy. I'll mess with that for a bit and then try deb
> on my 64 bit machine. Or I may stick with ubuntu since I can install
> almost any debian package and they have a 64 bit version.
As far as I know Ubuntu uses the Sarge installer, so there should be no
difference. However Debian does not officially support AMD64 right now,
and probably won't until after the release of Sarge. So maybe for now
using Ubuntu might be the better choice.
best regards
Andreas Janssen
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| Leon van der Ree 2005-01-29, 7:45 am |
| Peter J Ross schreef:
> On Friday 28 January, Jeff Arch wrote in alt.os.linux.debian:
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>
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> Your simplest solution would be to get the installer for Debian
> Sarge/Testing rather than Debian Woody/Stable. It ought to do hardware
> detection about as competently as Mandrake or Suse, and I think the
> current kernel in Sarge is 2.6.8 (though you might need to choose the
> kernel before installation, 2.4.* being the default), and KDE 3.3 has
> recently been included in Sarge.
>
> Some helpful person will probably give you the relevant URLs.
>
> I found that even the old Woody installer wasn't impossibly difficult
> to use, so you could probably upgrade from a simple Woody installation
> without too many problems.
>
> Once you've got it installed and configured it will probably work like
> a dream and you'll never look back. Good luck!
>
> PJR :-)
You can find some really simple but useful info for install Sarge with
KDE3.3 on http://vemod.net/debian/tricks, of course you need to know
somethings yourself, but I think this info will help you through some
Debian specific options.
Don't forget to say that you want to boot from the CD with the 2.6
kernel! You have this option when you are at the boot prompt of the
install CD. You can read more info about this at the boot prompt and
help screens.
Good luck
Leon
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| Dowd, Elwood P. 2005-01-29, 5:45 pm |
| Jeff Arch wrote:
> I'm really interested in trying out Deb for amd 64 but the install looks a
> little daunting. I've been using mandrake and suse for a while and am
> familiar with CLI (more or less) but after reading the install pages I'm
> kind of dismayed. Is it really that hard? And how difficult would it be
> installing kernel 2.6.x and KDE 3.3? Thanks.
Jeff,
I've been using SuSE for several versions, and have wanted to try Debian,
too. Like you, I found the documentation I was a bit intimidated -- it just
looked like I was going to have to figure out too many things for myself.
I've also played with several of the Knoppix Live CD's based on Debian, but
that really isn't the same, as it turns out.
I finally downloaded the iso for a Sarge installation and gave it a whirl.
It was actually much easier than the SuSE ftp installations I've used in
the past!! I'm happily running it now, and very glad I did!
During the installation, it was much (!) easier than SuSE to get a
workstation installation (not installing many of the servers SuSE normally
installs) for my laptop, and if I find anything missing, Synaptic just
retrieves it (along with any dependencies) and installs it quickly for me.
I've quickly grown very fond of it!
--
Rgds,
Elwood
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| Jeff Arch 2005-01-29, 5:45 pm |
| On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 13:42:27 +0100, Andreas Janssen wrote:
> Hello
>
> Jeff Arch (<jeff@SUSE64.svm> ) wrote:
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>
> As far as I know Ubuntu uses the Sarge installer, so there should be no
> difference. However Debian does not officially support AMD64 right now,
> and probably won't until after the release of Sarge. So maybe for now
> using Ubuntu might be the better choice.
>
> best regards
> Andreas Janssen
Thanks for all the suggestions. I put ubuntu on an old 900 Mhz machine and
it runs almost as fast as my 64 bit suse install. I really do like Suse
9.1 but I'm getting to the point where I'd like to use a distro that's a
little more "back to the basics". Suse just makes it too damn easy to do
everything and I'm trying to teach myself the nuts and bolts of linux.
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I am newbie installer of debian sarge.
just joining the fray.
http://users.lmi.net/subjazz/unix.html
Jeff Arch wrote:
> I'm really interested in trying out Deb for amd 64 but the install looks a
> little daunting. I've been using mandrake and suse for a while and am
> familiar with CLI (more or less) but after reading the install pages I'm
> kind of dismayed. Is it really that hard? And how difficult would it be
> installing kernel 2.6.x and KDE 3.3? Thanks.
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| Just a note:
I think Debian Sarge has an excellent installer that
beats any of the popular distros (i.eSUSE) . way more
control and I hope i never see similar GUI [screen like]
installations in deb.
Paul wrote:
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> I am newbie installer of debian sarge.
> just joining the fray.
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> http://users.lmi.net/subjazz/unix.html
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> Jeff Arch wrote:
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| Penjuin 2005-08-27, 8:45 pm |
| Paul wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]
> Just a note:
> I think Debian Sarge has an excellent installer that
> beats any of the popular distros (i.eSUSE) . way more
> control and I hope i never see similar GUI [screen like]
> installations in deb.
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> Paul wrote:
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I managed to do a clean install of it without reading the docs, and it
has 300+ days uptime!
-penjuin
PS: You really should read the docs, I had installed linux many times before
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