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nobody@firenze.linux.it

2005-09-21, 2:46 am

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after getting the install cd downloaded and burned, I spent a couple hours
today trying to get it to install.

everytime the installing base packages portion got to about 17% it would
stops with a message that it ran into an error and that I could try again and
what step to use If I did.

problem is, i'm a total clueless wonder when it comes to linux, I know less than
nothing about it which is why I want to install it on a spare HD and spend some
off time learning.

for example, this installer has an option to execute a shell, but it's useless
to me because the only command I know how to use in that shell is 'exit'

I can't even get it to give me a directory listing, show me how much free space
there is on the drive, change directories, read a text file, tell a directory
FROM a text file, etc. ms-dos i can find my way around fine, but this is a
whole new multiverse.

also, is there a minimum usefull size to install this on? this drive is an older
seagate (about 245 mb) and it's the only other working drive i've got. I tried
the partition route a month ago and toasted 15GB worth of stuff on my main win98se
drive that I can ill afford the time to replace.

gratefull for any help.

thanks

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Alan Connor

2005-09-21, 2:46 am

On alt.os.linux.debian, in <20050921055831.91E253FE66B@firenze.linux.it>, "nobody@firenze.linux.it" wrote:
<body not downloaded>

According to your headers, your article has 0 lines.
Why would anyone bother downloading an article with 0 lines?

AC

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John Hasler

2005-09-21, 5:48 pm

AC writes:
> According to your headers, your article has 0 lines.

According to his headers his article has 41 lines.
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Bryan Donlan

2005-09-21, 8:46 pm

Alan Connor wrote:

> On alt.os.linux.debian, in <20050921055831.91E253FE66B@firenze.linux.it>,
> "nobody@firenze.linux.it" wrote: <body not downloaded>
>
> According to your headers, your article has 0 lines.
> Why would anyone bother downloading an article with 0 lines?
>
> AC
>

There is no such header:
Path:
authen.white.readfreenews.net!green.octanews.net!news-out.octanews.net!news.glorb.com!news.alt.net!anon.lcs.mit.edu!nym.alias.net!mail2news
Message-Id: <20050921055831.91E253FE66B@firenze.linux.it>
From: nobody@firenze.linux.it
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.debian
Subject: debian install problem
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 07:58:31 +0200 (CEST)
X-Anonymous: yes
X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at firenze.linux.it
Mail-To-News-Contact: postmaster@nym.alias.net
Organization: mail2news@nym.alias.net

That's all.

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Alan Connor

2005-09-21, 8:46 pm

On alt.os.linux.debian, in <ds5903-2rs.ln1@bd.beginyourfear.com>, "Bryan Donlan" wrote:
>
>
> Alan Connor wrote:
>
>
> There is no such header:
> Path:
> authen.white.readfreenews.net!green.octanews.net!news-out.octanews.net!news.glorb.com!news.alt.net!anon.lcs.mit.edu!nym.alias.net!mail2news
> Message-Id: <20050921055831.91E253FE66B@firenze.linux.it>
> From: nobody@firenze.linux.it
> Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.debian
> Subject: debian install problem
> Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 07:58:31 +0200 (CEST)
> X-Anonymous: yes
> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at firenze.linux.it
> Mail-To-News-Contact: postmaster@nym.alias.net
> Organization: mail2news@nym.alias.net
> Xref: bd.beginyourfear.com alt.os.linux.debian:264
>
> That's all.
>

Perfect :-)

I wanted people to take a look at the headers of the post.
Thank you for taking the hint and giving me this further
opportunity to educate the newbies.

When slrn, or any other good newsreader, reports that a post has
0 lines, it means that it is from some troll (or worse) hiding
his/her identity behind an anonymous mail2news gateway.

It's like a big, red, warning flag: Don't help this person,
because they'll use the knowledge they obtain from you to
pollute newsgroups and/or people's mailboxes.

A further clue is the lack of a name in the From: header. The
email addresses in From: headers are meaningless, usually
temporary, spam traps or fakes. Even good Usenet citizens change
them all the time.

AC

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http://home.earthlink.net/~alanconnor/
My favorite dickless troll put this page up:
http://www.pearlgates.net/nanae/kooks/alanconnor.shtml
I've never read it. I don't read trollshit if I can help it.

Bill Marcum

2005-09-22, 2:46 am

On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 07:26:09 -0500, John Hasler
<jhasler@debian.org> wrote:
> AC writes:
>
> According to his headers his article has 41 lines.

I've noticed some articles posted from mail-to-news gateways don't have
a "Lines:" header. Maybe some news servers add it if it is missing, and
some don't. This may or may not violate some RFC, but I wouldn't
consider it a reason to ignore a post. Of course, if Alan read the
content of the message, he might object to the fact that it was posted
through an anonymous gateway.

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\[Anon\] I have a right to be anonymous

2005-09-22, 2:46 am

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Alan, If you don't want to read anonymous posts that's fine with me. I wasn't
talking to you anyway, I was talking to the people in this group who have the
knowledge and inclination to be helpfull to a clueless noob like me.

In <slrndj3v5d.20r.i3x9mdw@b29x3m.invalid> Alan Connor <i3x9mdw@j9n35c.invalid> wrote:
>On alt.os.linux.debian, in <ds5903-2rs.ln1@bd.beginyourfear.com>, "Bryan Donlan" wrote:
>
>Perfect :-)
>
>I wanted people to take a look at the headers of the post.
>Thank you for taking the hint and giving me this further
>opportunity to educate the newbies.
>
>When slrn, or any other good newsreader, reports that a post has
>0 lines, it means that it is from some troll (or worse) hiding
>his/her identity behind an anonymous mail2news gateway.
>
>It's like a big, red, warning flag: Don't help this person,
>because they'll use the knowledge they obtain from you to
>pollute newsgroups and/or people's mailboxes.
>
>A further clue is the lack of a name in the From: header. The
>email addresses in From: headers are meaningless, usually
>temporary, spam traps or fakes. Even good Usenet citizens change
>them all the time.

Alan, You amaze me. I'm looking for help with something. The fact that I
have chosen to be anonymous on usenet is my own busines and not yours and
really has nothing to do with the fact that I'm trying to learn about something
I'm currently clueless about.

I couldn't use this knowledge to "pollute newsgroups and/or people's mailboxes"
if I wanted to. and frankly, If I wanted to do that, I'd use windows and M$dos
tools that I already understand.

I came here looking for help, and you come in spewing the same stuff I've seen
you posting all over. What amazes me most, is that you seem to appear in absolutely
every newsgroup I post in within a matter of days. I'm beginning to think
that you are searching google groups for anonymous messages just so that you can
have an excuse to spew anti-anonymity rhetoric in public.

and now to get back to the topic, will anyone please care to address my original
questions?

> everytime the installing base packages portion got to about 17% it
> would stops with a message that it ran into an error and that I could
> try again and what step to use If I did.
>
> problem is, i'm a total clueless wonder when it comes to linux, I know
> less than nothing about it which is why I want to install it on a
> spare HD and spend some off time learning.
>
> for example, this installer has an option to execute a shell, but it's
> useless to me because the only command I know how to use in that shell
> is 'exit'
>
> I can't even get it to give me a directory listing, show me how much
> free space there is on the drive, change directories, read a text
> file, tell a directory FROM a text file, etc. ms-dos i can find my way
> around fine, but this is a whole new multiverse.
>
> also, is there a minimum usefull size to install this on? this drive
> is an older seagate (about 245 mb) and it's the only other working
> drive i've got. I tried the partition route a month ago and toasted
> 15GB worth of stuff on my main win98se drive that I can ill afford the
> time to replace.
>
> gratefull for any help.
>
> thanks

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