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none@nowhere.com

2006-07-07, 1:12 am

Hello everyone

I am new to debian. I have posted a question and received help.
Another question.
I downloaded sarge from debian.org. I guess I downloaded unstable. I
have loaded and reloaded four times. This time I went http and
downloaded. It downloaded and installed fine. But it configured my
monitor at 640x480. I went to applications-desktop preferences -screen
resolutions and that is all that is listed and refresh rate @74 hz. I
have a 17" supervga and I would like to know how to change that setup.

tia
Jeremy Boden

2006-07-07, 7:14 am

On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 05:30 +0000, none@nowhere.com wrote:
> Hello everyone
>
> I am new to debian. I have posted a question and received help.
> Another question.
> I downloaded sarge from debian.org. I guess I downloaded unstable. I
> have loaded and reloaded four times. This time I went http and
> downloaded. It downloaded and installed fine. But it configured my
> monitor at 640x480. I went to applications-desktop preferences -screen
> resolutions and that is all that is listed and refresh rate @74 hz. I
> have a 17" supervga and I would like to know how to change that setup.
>

Assuming you are using a GUI...
If GNOME, use the System, Preferences, Screen Resolution option.
I expect it's something similar in KDE etc.
--
Jeremy Boden


none@nowhere.com

2006-07-07, 7:14 am

On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 09:38:30 +0100, Jeremy Boden
<jeremy@jboden.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 05:30 +0000, none@nowhere.com wrote:
>Assuming you are using a GUI...
>If GNOME, use the System, Preferences, Screen Resolution option.
>I expect it's something similar in KDE etc.


I went to applications-desktop preferences -screen-resolutions and it
list one setting, 640x480 @73 hz. It does not give me any other
choices.
Peter J Ross

2006-07-07, 7:14 am

On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 05:30:14 GMT, none@nowhere.com <none@nowhere.com>
wrote in alt.os.linux.debian:

> Hello everyone
>
> I am new to debian. I have posted a question and received help.
> Another question.
> I downloaded sarge from debian.org. I guess I downloaded unstable.


Sarge = stable
Etch = testing
Sid = unstable

> I
> have loaded and reloaded four times. This time I went http and
> downloaded. It downloaded and installed fine. But it configured my
> monitor at 640x480. I went to applications-desktop preferences -screen
> resolutions and that is all that is listed and refresh rate @74 hz. I
> have a 17" supervga and I would like to know how to change that setup.


The chances are that your monitor uses a lower refresh rate for higher
resolutions than the Debian installer thinks is acceptable.

So you need to reconfigure the X Server. As root in a terminal, run

dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
or
dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg

The first command is for Sarge, the second for Etch or Sid.

You'll be asked a lot of questions about your mouse, keyboard,
graphics card and monitor. If you're given an option to autodetect
appropriate settings, use it. If not, you'll need to know something
about your hardware in order to answer the questions. (I can't
remember if the painless autodetection was in Sarge or not.)

Finally, you'll probably have to run dexconf to overwrite the previous
settings, and then restart the X Server to apply them.

For more information, try Googling "dpkg-reconfigure xserver".

PJR :-)
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none@nowhere.com

2006-07-07, 1:14 pm

On Fri, 7 Jul 2006 12:49:57 +0100, Peter J Ross <pjr@kookbusters.org>
wrote:

>On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 05:30:14 GMT, none@nowhere.com <none@nowhere.com>
>wrote in alt.os.linux.debian:
>
>
>Sarge = stable
>Etch = testing
>Sid = unstable
>
>
>The chances are that your monitor uses a lower refresh rate for higher
>resolutions than the Debian installer thinks is acceptable.
>
>So you need to reconfigure the X Server. As root in a terminal, run
>
> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
>or
> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
>
>The first command is for Sarge, the second for Etch or Sid.
>
>You'll be asked a lot of questions about your mouse, keyboard,
>graphics card and monitor. If you're given an option to autodetect
>appropriate settings, use it. If not, you'll need to know something
>about your hardware in order to answer the questions. (I can't
>remember if the painless autodetection was in Sarge or not.)
>
>Finally, you'll probably have to run dexconf to overwrite the previous
>settings, and then restart the X Server to apply them.
>
>For more information, try Googling "dpkg-reconfigure xserver".
>
>PJR :-)


If I reinstall then I can use the autodetect. Xf86config will run the
setup for the monitor and keyboard and lmouise, and it asks alot of
questions but does not offer the autodetect. I also went to
applications-system tools-configuration editor. In Gconf
editor-desktop-gnome-screen-default-0. I changed the settings from
640x480 @ 73 to 800x600 @ 75 hz. I exited out and went back to see if
the settings had changed. They did not. They are what I set them to.
But when I go to the gui nothing has changed. Still the same. Btw, I
did what you said before I did all of this, and all it said was no
such directory or file. I cd directories untill I found the file and
and then it wouldn't let me open it.

Thanks and maybe it will work next time!
Gary Dale

2006-07-08, 1:11 pm

none@nowhere.com wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Jul 2006 12:49:57 +0100, Peter J Ross <pjr@kookbusters.org>
> wrote:
>
>
> If I reinstall then I can use the autodetect. Xf86config will run the
> setup for the monitor and keyboard and lmouise, and it asks alot of
> questions but does not offer the autodetect. I also went to
> applications-system tools-configuration editor. In Gconf
> editor-desktop-gnome-screen-default-0. I changed the settings from
> 640x480 @ 73 to 800x600 @ 75 hz. I exited out and went back to see if
> the settings had changed. They did not. They are what I set them to.
> But when I go to the gui nothing has changed. Still the same. Btw, I
> did what you said before I did all of this, and all it said was no
> such directory or file. I cd directories untill I found the file and
> and then it wouldn't let me open it.
>
> Thanks and maybe it will work next time!


You need to run dpkg-reconfigure as root. If you do this, it will work.

There are a few parts you need to get right. One is the video modes.
Make sure you have selected all the video modes you want your system to
be able to use. Especially get your main one correct!

Secondly, get the monitor refresh rates correct. The debian configurator
gives you choices on how you do this. Pick a method you feel
comfortable with and give it the correct answers. If you have a manual
for the monitor or at least a data sheet (try google), refer to it for
the correct values.

Changing gconf won't work because the xserver uses its own configuration
file.
none@nowhere.com

2006-07-09, 1:13 am

On Sat, 08 Jul 2006 08:55:29 -0400, Gary Dale <garydale@rogers.com>
wrote:

>none@nowhere.com wrote:
>
>You need to run dpkg-reconfigure as root. If you do this, it will work.
>
>There are a few parts you need to get right. One is the video modes.
>Make sure you have selected all the video modes you want your system to
>be able to use. Especially get your main one correct!
>
>Secondly, get the monitor refresh rates correct. The debian configurator
> gives you choices on how you do this. Pick a method you feel
>comfortable with and give it the correct answers. If you have a manual
>for the monitor or at least a data sheet (try google), refer to it for
>the correct values.
>
>Changing gconf won't work because the xserver uses its own configuration
>file.


I have gone thru dpkg-reconfigure twice. The first time it didn't
change anything. The second time it didn't change anything. It still
allow only one resolutiion on the preferences choices. It does work
and I can work around the inconvience until I learn more. I am trying
and I do appreciate all the help.
Peter J Ross

2006-07-09, 7:12 pm

On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 00:37:51 GMT, none@nowhere.com <none@nowhere.com>
wrote in alt.os.linux.debian:

> I have gone thru dpkg-reconfigure twice. The first time it didn't
> change anything. The second time it didn't change anything. It still
> allow only one resolutiion on the preferences choices. It does work
> and I can work around the inconvience until I learn more. I am trying
> and I do appreciate all the help.


Did you run dexconf? If not, the new configuration file may not be
written.

An alternative solution is to rename /etc/X11/xfree86.conf (or
xorg.conf) before running dpkg-reconfigure.

You do need to pick the right driver for the graphics card in order to
get the appropriate resolution options. In my case, it's mga (for
Matrox). Yours might be nvidia or ati or whatever.

PJR :-)
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Gary Dale

2006-07-09, 7:12 pm

none@nowhere.com wrote:
> I have gone thru dpkg-reconfigure twice. The first time it didn't
> change anything. The second time it didn't change anything. It still
> allow only one resolutiion on the preferences choices. It does work
> and I can work around the inconvience until I learn more. I am trying
> and I do appreciate all the help.



You still haven't answered the earlier question about which version you
have installed. Sarge is the current stable release, while Etch is the
testing release. No one in their right mind should be installing Sid
(unstable) and expecting it to work.

If you need a stable platform where things work, try Sarge. If you want
something a little more up to date and can put up with some problems of
varying severity, Etch is OK. I will warn you however, there are some
bugs and missing packages in Etch. On the other hand, it is very up to date.

I'm running Etch and I can confirm that the configurator for
xserver-xorg does not currently work - at least not with an AMD64 system
running i386 code. I have reported this bug but it has not yet been
fixed. The problem I am having is it stops before it gets to the
resolution settings and does not update xorg.conf.

Here are the sections from my xorg.conf that you may need. Replace the
horizontal and vertical sync values with the ones for your monitor, and
remove the resolutions your monitor does not support. Also, change the
identifiers (like Dell P1110) to ones appropriate for your system. In
particular, the Screen Device should be the same as what you have
defined earlier in your xorg.conf file.

If you don't have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf, look for XF86Config-4 or
XF86Config.


Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Dell P1110"
Option "DPMS"
HorizSync 30-120
VertRefresh 48-160
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Default Screen"
Device "Generic Video Card"
Monitor "Dell P1110"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Depth 1
Modes "1792x1344" "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768"
"800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 4
Modes "1792x1344" "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768"
"800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "1792x1344" "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768"
"800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 15
Modes "1792x1344" "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768"
"800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1792x1344" "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768"
"800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1792x1344" "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768"
"800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection
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