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| Joe B. 2006-08-24, 1:14 am |
| Hi again, dear friends.
OK, I had my data on cds, deleted the partition, made a Fat32 and copied the
things on this drive.
So far so good. Went to Linux, it could read the files.
Now I made a restart, nothing, just a GRUB error (17?). turned the PC off,
next start same game, no Boot manager no OS.
Tried to repair XP, first restart with this procedure again GRUB error.
Now I tried to "upgrade", since the repair would not start any more. This
time it worked, 40 Minutes or so later and every thing seems to work, did
not try to go to Linux. Now my question:
Is it possible the same thing will happening the next time I go to Linux and
want to restart my PC?
Greetings, Joe Berger.
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| On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 23:00:26 -0400, Joe B. wrote:
> Hi again, dear friends.
> OK, I had my data on cds, deleted the partition, made a Fat32 and copied the
> things on this drive.
> So far so good. Went to Linux, it could read the files.
> Now I made a restart, nothing, just a GRUB error (17?). turned the PC off,
> next start same game, no Boot manager no OS.
> Tried to repair XP, first restart with this procedure again GRUB error.
> Now I tried to "upgrade", since the repair would not start any more. This
> time it worked, 40 Minutes or so later and every thing seems to work, did
> not try to go to Linux. Now my question:
> Is it possible the same thing will happening the next time I go to Linux and
> want to restart my PC?
> Greetings, Joe Berger.
Did you install Grub in the MBR?
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| Joe B. 2006-08-25, 1:16 am |
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"drg" <drg62@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.08.24.04.58.23.218297@sbcglobal.net...
> On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 23:00:26 -0400, Joe B. wrote:
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> Did you install Grub in the MBR?
>
Hi,
I do not know, may be Freespire did it. Now I had the next problem with it,
tried to resume from hibernate (XP) and the stupid thing came on again. This
time I was able to get in to the recovery mode and I renewed the MBR, now
it's working again, just like yesterday. After the restore even the boot
menu was gone, XP recovered with out a problem. O yes, before I tried to
reinstall Linux, ran fine but the Grub error did not disappear.
Now, from the Windows side I can get into my machine, even with problems,
but I'm not sure if Linux is still working.
Now one more question, is Grub a Linux or Windows thing?
Thank you and Greetings, Joe.
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| TimeTraveler 2006-08-25, 1:16 am |
| On Thursday 24 August 2006 18:27 a poster that claims to be Joe B. wrote:
>
> "drg" <drg62@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:pan.2006.08.24.04.58.23.218297@sbcglobal.net...
> Hi,
> I do not know, may be Freespire did it. Now I had the next problem with it,
> tried to resume from hibernate (XP) and the stupid thing came on again. This
> time I was able to get in to the recovery mode and I renewed the MBR, now
> it's working again, just like yesterday. After the restore even the boot
> menu was gone, XP recovered with out a problem. O yes, before I tried to
> reinstall Linux, ran fine but the Grub error did not disappear.
> Now, from the Windows side I can get into my machine, even with problems,
> but I'm not sure if Linux is still working.
> Now one more question, is Grub a Linux or Windows thing?
> Thank you and Greetings, Joe.
GRUB is a Linux boot loader. Fix it from that side.
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Regards,
TimeTraveler
One good thing about music,
when it hits you, you feel no pain.
- Bob Marley
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| ***** charles 2006-08-29, 7:15 pm |
| "TimeTraveler" <tardisREMOVE@heartsofmusic.com> wrote in message
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> On Thursday 24 August 2006 18:27 a poster that claims to be Joe B. wrote:
>
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> GRUB is a Linux boot loader. Fix it from that side.
Grub (GNU Grub) is a multi-boot loader that is actually OS independent.
It just became popular when they started using is as a Linux boot loader
over LILO.
later.....
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| Joe B. 2006-08-30, 1:13 am |
| Sorry, but I put here some Quotas together, a bit long but it used to 2
threats, not all of you read them, or did you :-)?
"Joe B." <herzbua@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:ecj4ob$igi$1@news.albasani.net...
> Hi again, dear friends.
> OK, I had my data on cds, deleted the partition, made a Fat32 and copied
> the things on this drive.
> So far so good. Went to Linux, it could read the files.
> Now I made a restart, nothing, just a GRUB error (17?). turned the PC off,
> next start same game, no Boot manager no OS.
> Tried to repair XP, first restart with this procedure again GRUB error.
> Now I tried to "upgrade", since the repair would not start any more. This
> time it worked, 40 Minutes or so later and every thing seems to work, did
> not try to go to Linux. Now my question:
> Is it possible the same thing will happening the next time I go to Linux
> and want to restart my PC?
It did, I repaired the MBR, XP OK, Linux dead.
> Greetings, Joe Berger. That was the very first one, solved.:
>Hi,
>I'm very new in Linux, just dl and installed Freespire (Debian based) a few
>days ago. So far so good, small problems but it works great, lots to learn.
>But there is one problem bugging me. I've 3 Hds, one NTFS for XP, one for
>Linux and one, fat 32, As a Bridge. Thais one is detected by XP as active
>and healthy, but no program can see it, not in my computer or elsewhere. It
>works in Linux, no problem. The only option in the XP disk manager is
>delete Partition, I rather do it not :-).
>Please help me, any help is very much appreciated.
>Greetings, Joe.
Ok, that was then, a few days ago, now I hope every thing works, but why?
:-)?
I did a few more installations, always re- partitishioned the HD (for Linux)
with Windows XP, once 2 Partitions FAT32, then one NTFS (XP would not let
me do FAT32 on a 49 GIG HD) did the installer not let write to the MBR,
every time when I tried to boot Linux with the Linux HG (BIOS boot sequence)
I got an error, some thing like number of the heads or so. No problem with
the 8 GB FAT32 HD, no problems with XP. I almost gave up with Freespire.
Last night I did the last try with it. This time I used the Partition
program on the Freespire CD (burned after DL) and installed with the
automatic, like the first time. So the only difference was that I made the
partition this time with Linux, not Windoze.
Surprise, surprise it seems to work. The "bridge hd" can be read and written
to by Linux and XP, I did lots of re-starts and complete shut downs, every
thing works, no GRUB error and both OSses working, I hope for a long time.
Once I have figured out how to install programs and add ons like the German
spell checker, the scanner, my TV and so on I will not use XP a lot any
more. That might be the time when I can help other people in this group,
just like I help people with Windows.
So thank you all very much for the help and for the patience with an old
newbee, not a great combination :-), is it?
Greetings, Joe.
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| Jes Vestervang 2006-08-30, 7:14 pm |
| "***** charles" <someone@out-there.com> writes:
> Grub (GNU Grub) is a multi-boot loader that is actually OS
> independent.
Well, not completely as it has to be able to read the OS's file
system. When that is not possible Grub chainloads another bootloader
(such as NTLDR in windows IIRC).
--
Regards Jes Vestervang
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| anders.jackson@gmail.com 2006-08-31, 7:19 pm |
| Jes Vestervang wrote:
> "***** charles" <someone@out-there.com> writes:
>
>
> Well, not completely as it has to be able to read the OS's file
> system. When that is not possible Grub chainloads another bootloader
> (such as NTLDR in windows IIRC).
<nitpicking>
No, not completely. It has to understand that partitions file system so
it can locate needed files. A file system format can (and are)
understod by many OS's. You can't realy say that xfs, nfs and ext3
belongs to Irix, Solaris and Linux, can you?
</nitpicking>
;-)
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