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Where to find CUPS training wheels
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| Where can I find how to use CUPS? I want to use a Windows Network
printer from a Linux PC using the same router...Any help would be
helpful...of course.. As is probably not surprising, there seems to be
much data available, all of it confusing and not user friendly...
Thanks.
Ron
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| ***** charles 2006-09-16, 1:16 pm |
| "KB" <giu@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:HCyOg.889$Ij.240@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
> Where can I find how to use CUPS? I want to use a Windows Network
> printer from a Linux PC using the same router...Any help would be
> helpful...of course.. As is probably not surprising, there seems to be
> much data available, all of it confusing and not user friendly...
> Thanks.
> Ron
Try the following link, it will give several major hints:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/cups-horror.html
Interface design in the open-source community SUCKS. But
there are signs that it is getting better.
Hint on asking questions - do some homework first, then ask a
specific question. You'll get a lot more feedback.
Just changing your name won't fool anyone.
later,
charles.....
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| Bill Marcum 2006-09-16, 1:16 pm |
| On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 14:18:15 GMT, KB
<giu@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Where can I find how to use CUPS? I want to use a Windows Network
> printer from a Linux PC using the same router...Any help would be
> helpful...of course.. As is probably not surprising, there seems to be
> much data available, all of it confusing and not user friendly...
> Thanks.
> Ron
http://localhost:631
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Larkinson's Law:
All laws are basically false.
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| Bill Marcum wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 14:18:15 GMT, KB
> <giu@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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> http://localhost:631
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System reports "Could not connect to host localhost (Port 631)"
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| gregor herrmann 2006-09-17, 1:13 am |
| On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 00:09:47 GMT, Ron wrote:
> System reports "Could not connect to host localhost (Port 631)"
Then your cups daemon is probably not running. Try (as root):
/etc/init.d/cupsys start
gregor
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| gregor herrmann wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 00:09:47 GMT, Ron wrote:
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> Then your cups daemon is probably not running. Try (as root):
> /etc/init.d/cupsys start
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> gregor
Thank you.
I went to a terminal window, as root, and was unsuccessful in getting this
string to do anything. I tried all sorts of things...My machine is named
Linux..I see the CUPS in the etc directory. I tried to get it started...I
think I have to read up much much more on CUPS...I spent all day on this...
The only result I obtained was:
Linux:/etc# init cups
Usage: init 0123456SsQqAaBbCcUu
I entered "init cups", and the second line was returned. Nothing else I
tried was recognized. I have a thick Linux book on order, and maybe I will
have to wade through it...I am finding that Debian installed easily, and my
browser, email, and newsgroups are working fine. I am experiencing the fun
I heard about regarding printers on Linux. But I will persevere.
Thanks...
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| Jerry Heyman 2006-09-17, 1:13 pm |
| on Saturday 16 September 2006 10:46 pm, giu@sbcglobal.net (Ron) wrote:
> gregor herrmann wrote:
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> Thank you.
> I went to a terminal window, as root, and was unsuccessful in getting this
> string to do anything. I tried all sorts of things...My machine is named
> Linux..I see the CUPS in the etc directory. I tried to get it started...I
> think I have to read up much much more on CUPS...I spent all day on
> this...
What does ls /etc/init.d/cup* show?
What errors if any were you seeing from doing:
# /etc/init.d/cupsys start
? Does the file actually exist? Additionally, for more details, you
shouuld be able to say:
# sh -x /etc/init.d/cupsys start
> The only result I obtained was:
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> Linux:/etc# init cups
> Usage: init 0123456SsQqAaBbCcUu
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> I entered "init cups", and the second line was returned. Nothing else I
> tried was recognized. I have a thick Linux book on order, and maybe I
> will have to wade through it...I am finding that Debian installed easily,
> and my browser, email, and newsgroups are working fine. I am experiencing
> the fun I heard about regarding printers on Linux. But I will persevere.
init is the basic program that runs all of Linux/Unix. the init command as
you typed it allows you to change the run level - to one of those specified
in the usage statement. You cannot start up a subsystem (like cups) via the
init command.
> Thanks...
jerry
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| Jerry Heyman wrote:
> on Saturday 16 September 2006 10:46 pm, giu@sbcglobal.net (Ron) wrote:
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> What does ls /etc/init.d/cup* show?
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> What errors if any were you seeing from doing:
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> # /etc/init.d/cupsys start
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> ? Does the file actually exist? Additionally, for more details, you
> shouuld be able to say:
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> # sh -x /etc/init.d/cupsys start
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> init is the basic program that runs all of Linux/Unix. the init command
> as you typed it allows you to change the run level - to one of those
> specified
> in the usage statement. You cannot start up a subsystem (like cups) via
> the init command.
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> jerry
Thank you Jerry.
Well, I looked at the CUPS directory in the etc directory, and the only file
in there is "client.cont". So it seems I have to actually obtain the CUPS
files....Is this right?
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| Jerry Heyman wrote:
> on Saturday 16 September 2006 10:46 pm, giu@sbcglobal.net (Ron) wrote:
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> What does ls /etc/init.d/cup* show?
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It shows "No such file or directory"
How should I go about obtaining the CUPS files? I thought they would be on
the Debian distribution.....
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| AJackson 2006-09-20, 1:14 am |
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Ron wrote:
> Jerry Heyman wrote:
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> It shows "No such file or directory"
Then you prob. hasn't a cups server installed. So you need to install
it.
If you check with command "ls /etc/cups" and doesn't see a file
"cupsd.conf" there, you don't have the server installed. If you don't
see "printers.conf" there, you don't have a cups client installed
either.
try
sudo aptitude install cupsys
and you probobly get everything you need.
> How should I go about obtaining the CUPS files? I thought they would be on
> the Debian distribution.....
Yes, they are. It isn't installed by default, unless you tell Debian
to do it. Good, isn't it ;-)
Good Luck
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| AJackson wrote:
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> Ron wrote:
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> Then you prob. hasn't a cups server installed. So you need to install
> it.
> If you check with command "ls /etc/cups" and doesn't see a file
> "cupsd.conf" there, you don't have the server installed. If you don't
> see "printers.conf" there, you don't have a cups client installed
> either.
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> try
> sudo aptitude install cupsys
> and you probobly get everything you need.
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> Yes, they are. It isn't installed by default, unless you tell Debian
> to do it. Good, isn't it ;-)
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> Good Luck
That worked!! Thank you very much...I had just been searching around for
about two hours looking for a clue....Now I will have to learn what sudo
aptitude actually does! Now with CUPS installed, I can get down to the
business of setting it up to work....
I have been on Linux about ten days....getting it to print to my Windows
network printer should just about do it...But I have many many things to
learn about Linux after that. My Linux Bible is in the mail from
Amazon...I will need it.
Ron
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| AJackson 2006-09-22, 7:12 pm |
| Ron wrote:
> AJackson wrote:
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> That worked!! Thank you very much...
Your welcome! Good to here that it workd and that you tell us all
about it. Might help others with same problems how to solve it.
> I had just been searching around for about two hours looking for a clue....
> Now I will have to learn what sudo aptitude actually does! Now with CUPS installed,
> I can get down to the business of setting it up to work....
The command "sudo" allows you to run a command as root (or System
Manager in MS Win lingo).
And "aptitude" is a program that manages (un-)installs program packed
in Debian way. It needs to run as root if you want to install or
remove programs on your computer.
So "sudo aptitude" allows you to run "aptitude" as system administrator
to install programs, without logging in as system administrator. You
don't even need the system administrators password. Only users that
are allowed can do that, and they need to know there own password :-)
> I have been on Linux about ten days....getting it to print to my Windows
> network printer should just about do it...But I have many many things to
> learn about Linux after that. My Linux Bible is in the mail from
> Amazon...I will need it.
> Ron
Sounds good. Keep up the good spirit. You will get problems, as you
prob. also gets with MS Windows. I get more problems with MS Windows
than with Linux systens. But when you have solved a problem, you know
what what you have done. And don't forget to look into the logs under
/var/log. To look at a running log, you can try "tail -f
/var/log/syslog" in a command window. If you add yourself to group
"adm" you will be abel to read more logs. To see which groups, try
"groups" command. You add yourself to this group whith this line: "sudo
addgroup Yourlogin adm"
Remember that "man" is your friend, try "man man" or "man -k groups".
Good Luck
/AJackson
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