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| Tim Wescott 2007-01-22, 1:12 pm |
| It appears that I jumped off the deep end when I chose to go with Debian
as a Linux mostly-newbie. That's OK: I appear to be learning how to
swim faster than I'm starting to drown.
At any rate I started with the most recent sarge version. After getting
it installed (on brand-new hardware) I'm having some lingering hardware
compatibility problems. In addition, I'm using OpenOffice.org 2.0 on my
Windows machine and would like to have OOo 2.0 on the Linux box as well.
So:
Is there a way to upgrade to OOo 2.0 without going to etch? I was
trying the apt-get GUI last night and it appears that while I succeeded
in messing up the OOo 1.1 install (I'm creative) I didn't manage to
install OOo 2.0; it was the "incompatible, can't remove" messages that
are driving these questions.
Is there a way to upgrade to etch without blowing away our
configurations? Will apt-get dist-upgrade do it for me? Will doing so
give me the opportunity to specify etch, or will it just upgrade the
sarge distribution?
If there isn't a way to upgrade to etch in place, is there a way to save
our configurations and put them back in after I install it? I followed
the partitioning recommendations during the initial install so all I
have is the linux partition and the swap partition -- the user files
aren't in a separate partition.
Thanks in advance.
--
Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com
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| james Fletcher 2007-01-22, 1:12 pm |
| Hi Tim. usually you can get a newer version of a program by adding an
etch or sid repository to your /etc/apt/sources.list.
Also, to answer your question about dist-upgrade, no, it won't change
any of your configuration properties. The only thing that _MAY_ be
wiped, is your saved passwords in your web browser, apart from this,
everything should stay the same. I highly recommend upgrading to etch,
as it's only a few weeks before it goes stable.
James Fletcher.
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| Michael Fierro 2007-01-22, 7:12 pm |
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Tim Wescott ranted on about :
> Is there a way to upgrade to etch without blowing away our
> configurations? Will apt-get dist-upgrade do it for me? Will doing so
> give me the opportunity to specify etch, or will it just upgrade the
> sarge distribution?
dist-upgrade simply upgrades you to the latest available version of the
distribution listed in /etc/apt/sources.list. so if your sources are for
sarge (and it sounds like they are), then that's what you will get.
If you do a search-and-replace in sources.list, replacing all occurrences of
sarge with etch, save it, do an update, then a dist-upgrade, THEN you'll
upgrade to etch. In place. Normally, it's pretty straight-forward and safe,
too, but unusual things can happen. I would recommend Googling "debian
upgrade to etch" and read the experience from other users.
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| John Hasler 2007-01-22, 7:12 pm |
| Michael Fierro writes:
> dist-upgrade simply upgrades you to the latest available version of the
> distribution listed in /etc/apt/sources.list.
'dist-upgrade' will also remove packages if necessary to complete the
upgrade. Plain 'upgrade' won't do that.
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John Hasler
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| 46kmz5j02@sneakemail.com 2007-01-22, 7:12 pm |
| On 2007-01-22, Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.com> wrote:
> It appears that I jumped off the deep end when I chose to go with Debian
> as a Linux mostly-newbie. That's OK: I appear to be learning how to
> swim faster than I'm starting to drown.
>
> At any rate I started with the most recent sarge version. After getting
> it installed (on brand-new hardware) I'm having some lingering hardware
> compatibility problems. In addition, I'm using OpenOffice.org 2.0 on my
> Windows machine and would like to have OOo 2.0 on the Linux box as well.
>
> So:
>
> Is there a way to upgrade to OOo 2.0 without going to etch? I was
> trying the apt-get GUI last night and it appears that while I succeeded
> in messing up the OOo 1.1 install (I'm creative) I didn't manage to
> install OOo 2.0; it was the "incompatible, can't remove" messages that
> are driving these questions.
>
> Is there a way to upgrade to etch without blowing away our
> configurations? Will apt-get dist-upgrade do it for me? Will doing so
> give me the opportunity to specify etch, or will it just upgrade the
> sarge distribution?
>
> If there isn't a way to upgrade to etch in place, is there a way to save
> our configurations and put them back in after I install it? I followed
> the partitioning recommendations during the initial install so all I
> have is the linux partition and the swap partition -- the user files
> aren't in a separate partition.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
The biggest problem I had in going from sarge (3.1r0a cd images)
to etch involved the change to udev from whatever sarge was using.
On my first boot after upgrading, it said that udev wasn't
compatible with the kernel I was using. I thought I was
screwed, because 'aptitude show kernel-image' indicated
I was using the latest kernel image available through
debian's apt system, and I had nightmares about having
to compile my own kernel.
Then, I learned that they had changed the name from 'kernel-image'
to 'linux-image', and I was able to install one that worked with
udev, after some fiddling with config files to get it to load the
modules for my soundcard (why the upgrade didn't 'realise' the
name of the kernel package had changed, or automatically configure
the loading of the necessary modules for the soundcard is beyond me).
Since the sarge box isn't your only working machine, and etch
will soon be the stable version of debian anyway, you might as
well give the upgrade a shot. Remember, though, it will involve
a lot of downloading, and may require some fiddling and tweaking.
No warranty implied or expressed; your mileage may vary.
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| Tim Wescott 2007-01-23, 7:14 am |
| 46kmz5j02@sneakemail.com wrote:
> On 2007-01-22, Tim Wescott <tim@seemywebsite.com> wrote:
>
> The biggest problem I had in going from sarge (3.1r0a cd images)
> to etch involved the change to udev from whatever sarge was using.
>
> On my first boot after upgrading, it said that udev wasn't
> compatible with the kernel I was using. I thought I was
> screwed, because 'aptitude show kernel-image' indicated
> I was using the latest kernel image available through
> debian's apt system, and I had nightmares about having
> to compile my own kernel.
>
> Then, I learned that they had changed the name from 'kernel-image'
> to 'linux-image', and I was able to install one that worked with
> udev, after some fiddling with config files to get it to load the
> modules for my soundcard (why the upgrade didn't 'realise' the
> name of the kernel package had changed, or automatically configure
> the loading of the necessary modules for the soundcard is beyond me).
>
> Since the sarge box isn't your only working machine, and etch
> will soon be the stable version of debian anyway, you might as
> well give the upgrade a shot. Remember, though, it will involve
> a lot of downloading, and may require some fiddling and tweaking.
>
> No warranty implied or expressed; your mileage may vary.
Thanks for the post -- I'm up and running, and more quickly because I was
primed for the udev problem.
Now I have no sound (does this seem familiar to you?) and I get to dig
through the config files.
--
Tim Wescott
www.wescottdesign.com
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| james Fletcher 2007-01-23, 7:14 am |
| Tim Wescott wrote:
> 46kmz5j02@sneakemail.com wrote:
>
>
> Thanks for the post -- I'm up and running, and more quickly because I was
> primed for the udev problem.
>
> Now I have no sound (does this seem familiar to you?) and I get to dig
> through the config files.
>
run alsaconf as root in terminal, this will then guide you through sound
config, and load the module, when you know which module you need, add it
to the list of modules in the /etc/modules file. also disable your
onboard sound in BIOS if you're using a sound card (cheap trick but it
works ;))
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| Tim Wescott 2007-01-24, 1:16 am |
| james Fletcher wrote:
> Tim Wescott wrote:
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> run alsaconf as root in terminal, this will then guide you through sound
> config, and load the module, when you know which module you need, add it
> to the list of modules in the /etc/modules file. also disable your
> onboard sound in BIOS if you're using a sound card (cheap trick but it
> works ;))
I don't appear to have alsaconf?!?
--
Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
www.wescottdesign.com
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| james Fletcher 2007-01-24, 7:14 am |
| Tim Wescott wrote:
> james Fletcher wrote:
>
> -- snip --
>
> I don't appear to have alsaconf?!?
>
apt-get it =]
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| james Fletcher 2007-01-24, 7:14 am |
| Tim Wescott wrote:
> james Fletcher wrote:
>
> -- snip --
>
> I don't appear to have alsaconf?!?
>
I believe it could actually be a part of alsa-utils package.
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| Tim Wescott 2007-01-24, 1:12 pm |
| james Fletcher wrote:
> Tim Wescott wrote:
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> I believe it could actually be a part of alsa-utils package.
I will check -- I didn't see it as a package alone. I'm still learning
how to winkle out information from the Debian package store.
It would be nice if there were something like dpkg-apropos that I could
use. If I could run 'dpkg-apropos sound' or 'dpkg-apropos audio' and
get it to cough up a package name, or even 10, I could figure this out
on my own.
--
Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com
Posting from Google? See http://cfaj.freeshell.org/google/
"Applied Control Theory for Embedded Systems" came out in April.
See details at http://www.wescottdesign.com/actfes/actfes.html
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| Tim Wescott 2007-01-24, 1:12 pm |
| james Fletcher wrote:
> Tim Wescott wrote:
> I believe it could actually be a part of alsa-utils package.
It was indeed, and I needed to install it (why didn't it come with etch?).
It's installed, configured, and now the computer makes more noises than a
cheezy beep!
Thank you -- I'll be back to pester you with more problems later, no doubt.
--
Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
www.wescottdesign.com
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| james Fletcher 2007-01-25, 1:13 pm |
| no problem, Tim.
if you do ever need to search for a package, you can use apt-cache search.
an example, to find, say, a graphics card driver would be:
'apt-cache search nvidia driver'
or for alsa stuff.
'apt-cache search alsa'
and this will cough up any packages that contain the strings you put
there, either in the name of the package, or the package description.
Good luck, Tim! =]
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