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Bittorrent downlaod taking forever?
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| ***** charles 2007-03-19, 1:14 pm |
| Hi all,
I am in the process of doing a bittorrent download
of the 2 dvd images of 3.1r5. The timer says that
it will take 3 days. The speeds are runing around
20k. What's up with this? I downloaded all 4
CentOS cd's in a few hours. I have a high speed
dsl line and the debian dvd's are taking 15x longer
than they should. I think I know the technical
explaination so why aren't more people doing
these images?
thanks,
charles......
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| On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 14:48:52 +0000, ***** charles wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I am in the process of doing a bittorrent download
> of the 2 dvd images of 3.1r5. The timer says that
> it will take 3 days. The speeds are runing around
> 20k. What's up with this? I downloaded all 4
> CentOS cd's in a few hours. I have a high speed
> dsl line and the debian dvd's are taking 15x longer
> than they should. I think I know the technical
> explaination so why aren't more people doing
> these images?
>
> thanks,
> charles......
I have yet to have a good experience with bittorrent - I understand the
concept, but it does not seem to work.
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| SINNER 2007-03-19, 7:14 pm |
| * ray wrote in alt.os.linux.debian:
> On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 14:48:52 +0000, ***** charles wrote:
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> I have yet to have a good experience with bittorrent - I understand the
> concept, but it does not seem to work.
>
>
If you dont open/forward the correct ports, it wont work correctly.
Simply installing BT and attempting to download without further action
will simply not work most of the time, ESPECIALLY if you are coming
through a router with NAT enabled.
--
David
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| Colin Wilson 2007-03-19, 7:14 pm |
| > > I have yet to have a good experience with bittorrent - I understand the
> If you dont open/forward the correct ports, it wont work correctly.
> Simply installing BT and attempting to download without further action
> will simply not work most of the time, ESPECIALLY if you are coming
> through a router with NAT enabled.
In addition to this, many ISPs are now throttling bittorrent traffic - I
typically only get 20k/sec unless I have encryption switched on...
It will depend on which client you use where you'll find it.
UK ISPs are now almost universal in their *undocumented* throttling, and
it affects more than just torrents - I pay for a news server (text only)
and my (soon to be EX) ISP is so bad that it can take 20 minutes to
download the days' headers for just 20 groups.
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| ***** charles 2007-03-21, 1:14 pm |
| "Colin Wilson" < removeeverythingbutnewsgroup@phoenixbbsZ
EROSPAM.co.uk> wrote
in message news:MPG.206910a59489e95a989e46@news.individual.net...
the[vbcol=seagreen]
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> In addition to this, many ISPs are now throttling bittorrent traffic - I
> typically only get 20k/sec unless I have encryption switched on...
>
> It will depend on which client you use where you'll find it.
>
> UK ISPs are now almost universal in their *undocumented* throttling, and
> it affects more than just torrents - I pay for a news server (text only)
> and my (soon to be EX) ISP is so bad that it can take 20 minutes to
> download the days' headers for just 20 groups.
Thanks for all the responses. I hadn't thought of throttling but in my case
I don't think that has much to do with it. I use AT&T Yahoo DSL and I
have a "PRO" account (up to 3Mbps). My modem is a Speedstream
4100 connected directly to the machine that is doing the downloading no
NAT no router on my side at least. From my observation that biggest
influence on download speed is the speed of the server to which I am
connected. If it is fast and there aren't to many people connected I can
get up to 320K/sec accourding to the little icon. Most of the time it is
a lot less which means I am not getting what I paid for. The contract
reads "up to" 3Mbps, it doesn't say you will get at least 3Mbps so in
the long run you get what you pay for. Anyway, I will look into the
port open problem. I also suspect that the debian dvd's are shared by
all that many people/servers and that causes the biggest slow down.
later,
charles.....
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| SINNER 2007-03-21, 7:13 pm |
| * ***** charles wrote in alt.os.linux.debian:
[...]
> Thanks for all the responses. I hadn't thought of throttling but in
> my case I don't think that has much to do with it. I use AT&T Yahoo
> DSL and I have a "PRO" account (up to 3Mbps). My modem is a
> Speedstream 4100 connected directly to the machine that is doing the
> downloading no NAT no router on my side at least. From my observation
> that biggest influence on download speed is the speed of the server to
> which I am connected.
With a torrent, you arent connected to a server, you are connected to
peers.
> If it is fast and there aren't to many people
> connected I can get up to 320K/sec accourding to the little icon.
> Most of the time it is a lot less which means I am not getting what I
> paid for. The contract reads "up to" 3Mbps, it doesn't say you will
> get at least 3Mbps so in the long run you get what you pay for.
Nothing to do with your ISP UNLESS they are throtteling, which as you
indicate above, is not likely.
> Anyway, I will look into the port open problem. I also suspect that
> the debian dvd's are shared by all that many people/servers and that
> causes the biggest slow down.
The more people SEEDING the DVD the better your speed. If there are more
leechers than there are seeders speed will be slow.
--
David
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| On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:05:31 +0000, SINNER wrote:
> * ray wrote in alt.os.linux.debian:
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> If you dont open/forward the correct ports, it wont work correctly.
> Simply installing BT and attempting to download without further action
> will simply not work most of the time, ESPECIALLY if you are coming
> through a router with NAT enabled.
It works. It has always been slower than molasses. When it takes five or
ten times as long, or longer, I fail to see the point.
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| Mumia W. 2007-03-21, 7:13 pm |
| On 03/21/2007 11:20 AM, ***** charles wrote:
> [...] From my observation that biggest
> influence on download speed is the speed of the server to which I am
> connected. If it is fast and there aren't to many people connected I can
> get up to 320K/sec accourding to the little icon. Most of the time it is
> a lot less [...]
I suspect that jigdo will be much faster:
http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/
Jigdo gives you much more freedom with servers, and people don't (ab)use
the non-CD servers as much as they do the CD servers.
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| SINNER 2007-03-21, 7:13 pm |
| * ray wrote in alt.os.linux.debian:
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> It works. It has always been slower than molasses. When it takes five
> or ten times as long, or longer, I fail to see the point.
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I can fill my boradband pipe with a torrent so I know it isnt slower than
molasses. It doesnt take 5 or 10 times as long for those who take the time
to use it properly.
Of course if you are trying to download a file that has only 1 seeder and
300 leechers you might be able to imagine why the speed is suffering.
--
David
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| On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 21:02:29 +0000, SINNER wrote:
> * ray wrote in alt.os.linux.debian:
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> I can fill my boradband pipe with a torrent so I know it isnt slower than
> molasses. It doesnt take 5 or 10 times as long for those who take the time
> to use it properly.
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> Of course if you are trying to download a file that has only 1 seeder and
> 300 leechers you might be able to imagine why the speed is suffering.
Actually, I've tried several times, and always get about the same result.
As far as I know, things are properly set up, and I'm certainly doing the
outgoing connections as well. Seems that even with limiting the outgoing
connections I always have more going out than coming in.
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