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Lack of updates lately?
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| Hello,
Is it me or have there been lack of updates this week and last week via
apt-get update and apt-get upgrades? This is for both testing (by
itself) and unstable setups.
Currently, testing shows (as of 7/23/2007 3 PM PDT):
Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
compiz-core compiz-plugins dcoprss gcc-4.2-base gimp gimp-data ifstat
kdenetwork kdenetwork-filesharing
kdenetwork-kfile-plugins kdict kdnssd kget knewsticker kopete kpf kppp
krdc krfb ksirc kwifimanager
libaudio-dev libaudio2 libc6 libc6-dev libdecoration0 libfreetype6
libfreetype6-dev libgcc1 libgimp2.0
libgsf-1-114 liblcms1 liblcms1-dev libpango1.0-0 libpango1.0-dev
librss1 libsasl2-2 libsasl2-modules
libstdc++6 linux-image-2.6-k7 module-init-tools multitail python-cairo
python-gobject python-pyogg
python2.4 python2.4-minimal xfs xnest xserver-xorg-core
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 50 not upgraded.
These packages were pretty much the same for almost a week or so. Thank
you in advance. 
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| Peter J Ross 2007-07-24, 7:13 pm |
| In alt.os.linux.debian on Tue, 24 Jul 2007 15:38:52 -0500, Ant
<ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Is it me or have there been lack of updates this week and last week via
> apt-get update and apt-get upgrades? This is for both testing (by
> itself) and unstable setups.
How is this a problem?
There may a lack of new upstream releases or known bugs. Or the
package maintainers may be busy. Or the packages you don't use may be
the ones that are being updated twice a day.
You certainly don't have a configuration problem, since I'm getting
the same results on a mixed testing/unstable/experimental box.
Personally, I'm enjoying the peace and quiet. :-)
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| Michael Wagner 2007-07-24, 7:13 pm |
| On 2007-07-24, Ant <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:
> Is it me or have there been lack of updates this week and last week via
> apt-get update and apt-get upgrades? This is for both testing (by
> itself) and unstable setups.
>
> Currently, testing shows (as of 7/23/2007 3 PM PDT):
> Done
> Building dependency tree
> Reading state information... Done
> The following packages have been kept back:
> compiz-core compiz-plugins dcoprss gcc-4.2-base gimp gimp-data ifstat
> kdenetwork kdenetwork-filesharing
> kdenetwork-kfile-plugins kdict kdnssd kget knewsticker kopete kpf kppp
> krdc krfb ksirc kwifimanager
> libaudio-dev libaudio2 libc6 libc6-dev libdecoration0 libfreetype6
> libfreetype6-dev libgcc1 libgimp2.0
> libgsf-1-114 liblcms1 liblcms1-dev libpango1.0-0 libpango1.0-dev
> librss1 libsasl2-2 libsasl2-modules
> libstdc++6 linux-image-2.6-k7 module-init-tools multitail python-cairo
> python-gobject python-pyogg
> python2.4 python2.4-minimal xfs xnest xserver-xorg-core
> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 50 not upgraded.
Hello Ant,
enjoy the silence or type
apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
Bye Michael
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| Peter J Ross <pjr@example.invalid> wrote:
> In alt.os.linux.debian on Tue, 24 Jul 2007 15:38:52 -0500, Ant
> <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:
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> How is this a problem?
> There may a lack of new upstream releases or known bugs. Or the
> package maintainers may be busy. Or the packages you don't use may be
> the ones that are being updated twice a day.
> You certainly don't have a configuration problem, since I'm getting
> the same results on a mixed testing/unstable/experimental box.
> Personally, I'm enjoying the peace and quiet. :-)
OK good. I don't mind a break if there are no updates. I thought
something broke on my box!!
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| > > Is it me or have there been lack of updates this week and last week via
[vbcol=seagreen]
> Hello Ant,
> enjoy the silence or type
> apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
I am not doing that dist-upgrade yet because of the Kernel upgrade,
reboot requirement, and lack of disk space for 2.6.21 (will deal with it
later when I need this version and have free time to fix it):
Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda1 270969 228373 28140 90% /
The following packages will be REMOVED:
linux-kernel-headers modutils
The following NEW packages will be installed:
linux-image-2.6.21-2-k7 linux-libc-dev
The following packages will be upgraded:
compiz-core compiz-plugins dcoprss gcc-4.2-base gimp gimp-data ifstat
kdenetwork kdenetwork-filesharing
kdenetwork-kfile-plugins kdict kdnssd kget knewsticker kopete kpf kppp
krdc krfb ksirc kwifimanager
libaudio-dev libaudio2 libc6 libc6-dev libdecoration0 libfreetype6
libfreetype6-dev libgcc1 libgimp2.0
libgsf-1-114 liblcms1 liblcms1-dev libpango1.0-0 libpango1.0-dev
librss1 libsasl2-2 libsasl2-modules
libstdc++6 linux-image-2.6-k7 module-init-tools multitail python-cairo
python-gobject python-pyogg
python2.4 python2.4-minimal xfs xnest xserver-xorg-core
50 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 63.4MB of archives.
After unpacking 44.9MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? n
Plus, I don't think this is a good idea:
The following packages will be REMOVED:
linux-kernel-headers modutils
Don't I need those? As the other guy said, he noticed quietness too. I
thought my box was broken or something. ;)
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| Darren Salt 2007-07-25, 1:14 am |
| I demand that Ant may or may not have written...
[snip]
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
> linux-kernel-headers modutils
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
> linux-image-2.6.21-2-k7 linux-libc-dev
[snip]
> Plus, I don't think this is a good idea:
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
> linux-kernel-headers modutils
> Don't I need those? As the other guy said, he noticed quietness too. I
> thought my box was broken or something. ;)
Not a problem.
linux-kernel-headers will be replaced with linux-libc-dev, and you'll already
have module-init-tools, so no problem with modutils disappearing (and anyway
it isn't useful with 2.6-series kernels).
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| > > The following packages will be REMOVED:
> [snip]
[vbcol=seagreen]
[vbcol=seagreen]
> Not a problem.
> linux-kernel-headers will be replaced with linux-libc-dev, and you'll already
> have module-init-tools, so no problem with modutils disappearing (and anyway
> it isn't useful with 2.6-series kernels).
Cool! I always have a hard time to know if it is safe to remove or not.
I removed those two and others were installed:
# apt-get remove linux-kernel-headers modutils
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
libc6 libc6-dev linux-libc-dev
Suggested packages:
locales glibc-doc
The following packages will be REMOVED:
linux-kernel-headers modutils
The following NEW packages will be installed:
linux-libc-dev
The following packages will be upgraded:
libc6 libc6-dev
2 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 2 to remove and 48 not upgraded.
Need to get 8413kB of archives.
After unpacking 7913kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]?
Get:1 http://mirrors.kernel.org testing/main linux-libc-dev 2.6.21-6
[686kB]
Get:2 http://mirrors.kernel.org testing/main libc6-dev 2.6-2 [3314kB]
Get:3 http://mirrors.kernel.org testing/main libc6 2.6-2 [4413kB]
Fetched 8413kB in 13s (645kB/s)
dpkg: linux-kernel-headers: dependency problems, but removing anyway as
you request:
libc6-dev depends on linux-libc-dev | linux-kernel-headers; however:
Package linux-libc-dev is not installed.
Package linux-kernel-headers is to be removed.
(Reading database ... 148726 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing linux-kernel-headers ...
Selecting previously deselected package linux-libc-dev.
(Reading database ... 147002 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking linux-libc-dev (from .../linux-libc-dev_2.6.21-6_i386.deb) ...
Preparing to replace libc6-dev 2.5-11 (using
..../libc6-dev_2.6-2_i386.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement libc6-dev ...
Preparing to replace libc6 2.5-11 (using
..../archives/libc6_2.6-2_i386.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement libc6 ...
Setting up libc6 (2.6-2) ...
Installing new version of config file /etc/init.d/glibc.sh ...
(Reading database ... 147677 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing modutils ...
Setting up linux-libc-dev (2.6.21-6) ...
Setting up libc6-dev (2.6-2) ...
And now I can do a regular upgrade:
# apt-get upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
linux-image-2.6-k7
The following packages will be upgraded:
compiz-core compiz-plugins dcoprss gcc-4.2-base gimp gimp-data ifstat
kdenetwork kdenetwork-filesharing
kdenetwork-kfile-plugins kdict kdnssd kget knewsticker kopete kpf kppp
krdc krfb ksirc kwifimanager
libaudio-dev libaudio2 libdecoration0 libfreetype6 libfreetype6-dev
libgcc1 libgimp2.0 libgsf-1-114
liblcms1 liblcms1-dev libpango1.0-0 libpango1.0-dev librss1 libsasl2-2
libsasl2-modules libstdc++6
module-init-tools multitail python-cairo python-gobject python-pyogg
python2.4 python2.4-minimal xfs xnest
xserver-xorg-core
47 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
Need to get 37.1MB of archives.
After unpacking 463kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]?
I also removed linux-image-2.6-k7 package. Thank you.
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of accident sometimes collects in a moment." --Friedrich von Schiller
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| Ant wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Is it me or have there been lack of updates this week and last week via
> apt-get update and apt-get upgrades? This is for both testing (by
> itself) and unstable setups.
>
It's you. I've lost track of how many megabytes Sid has wanted recently,
and it's 66 MB tonight. That's not counting the ones that want to remove
Gnome or most of KDE, which I have currently declined to do. And Pan is
broken. BIG upheavals in Sid.
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| Black Dew 2007-07-27, 7:13 am |
| Ant wrote:
> Hello,
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> Is it me or have there been lack of updates this week and last week via
> apt-get update and apt-get upgrades? This is for both testing (by
> itself) and unstable setups.
If you are using ftp.debian.org as your apt source - this mirror is
currently broken (ran out of disc space afaik), and wasn't updated since
18/07/2007
You can find other mirrors at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list
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| s. keeling 2007-07-27, 1:13 pm |
| Ant <ANTant@zimage.com>:
> On 7/27/2007 4:59 AM PT, Black Dew typed:
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> $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list |grep ftp.debian.org
> deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ proposed-updates main non-free contrib
> [snip]
> Yep. When is it suppposed to resolve this issue?
What a silly question. He gave you a perfectly good answer. Pick
another mirror.
You do realize Debian is an all volunteer effort, yes? Perhaps you
could send them a wad of cash they can put toward the purchase of a
new drive. I'm sure they'd be grateful for your support. I would
be.
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| On 7/27/2007 9:27 AM PT, s. keeling typed:
> Ant <ANTant@zimage.com>:
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> What a silly question. He gave you a perfectly good answer. Pick
> another mirror.
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> You do realize Debian is an all volunteer effort, yes? Perhaps you
> could send them a wad of cash they can put toward the purchase of a
> new drive. I'm sure they'd be grateful for your support. I would
> be.
Isn't ftp.debian.org a main site that mirrors based on? Wouldn't they
fix their disk space shortage right away?
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| AJackson 2007-07-28, 7:13 am |
| On Jul 28, 10:42 am, Ant <ANT...@zimage.com> wrote:
> On 7/27/2007 9:27 AM PT, s. keeling typed:
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> Isn't ftp.debian.org a main site that mirrors based on? Wouldn't they
> fix their disk space shortage right away?
What a silly question. He gave you a perfectly good answer. Pick
another mirror.
You do realize Debian is an all volunteer effort, yes? Perhaps you
could send them a wad of cash they can put toward the purchase of a
new drive. I'm sure they'd be grateful for your support. I would
be.
(I'm sorry s.keeling for stealing your answer and Ant, I couldn't
resist. Sorry all)
Good luck
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| "AJackson" <anders.jackson@gmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:1185619009.118651.69040@l70g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 28, 10:42 am, Ant <ANT...@zimage.com> wrote:
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> What a silly question.
A question never is silly, it may seem so for those knowing the answer.
> He gave you a perfectly good answer. Pick another mirror.
Given his expressed assumption any mirror will be broken while the origional
is, this answer in turn may seem silly to the OP.
Given common security practise NONE of the mirrors exposed to the public is
likely be the master.
http://www.debian.org/doc/developer....html#s-mirrors
seems to validate my assumption.
HansH
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Is nothing what it seems to be?
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| AJackson 2007-07-30, 1:13 am |
| On Jul 28, 2:42 pm, "HansH" <ha...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> "AJackson" <anders.jack...@gmail.com> schreef in berichtnews:1185619009.118651.69040@l70g2000hse.googlegroups.com...> On Jul 28, 10:42 am, Ant <ANT...@zimage.com> wrote:
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> A question never is silly, it may seem so for those knowing the answer.
It wasn't that part that was silly. It was that he questioned the
answer given, without testing. If he would have done that, he would
ended up with another, more interested question. That you askes and
answer later.
It's also silly that he more or less demanded Debian to fix the
diskspace on the faulty server for him, for free. He got a sudgestion
how to solve it (send more money). But he ignored that part. Not
once, but twice.
(That was my interpretation of his "questions", any way)
Which still is the right answer for Ant's original question.
[vbcol=seagreen]
> Given his expressed assumption any mirror will be broken while the origional
> is, this answer in turn may seem silly to the OP.
That is a relevant question, so he should have asked that. Not demand
some one to shell out money on his behalf.
(Again, that was my interpretation of Ant's posts, which may be
faulty. As English is not my native language)
> Given common security practise NONE of the mirrors exposed to the public is
> likely be the master.http://www.debian.org/doc/developer...es.en.html#s...
> seems to validate my assumption.
A good answer to that question.
> HansH
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