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Edmund

2007-08-17, 7:13 pm


After installing updates today, epiphany doesn't seem
to download some files anymore, or is the file missing?

----------------
http://greekgreek.mylivepage.com/fi.../> 7.08.07b.zip
-----------------

Now I want to try firefox but how do I install that
in Debian etch?
I downloaded firefox (firefox-2.0.0.6.tar.gz) from
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/
Cannot find a simple howto on the firefox site,
can someone tell me step by step how to make this
firefox working on my system/

Edmund



sk8r-365

2007-08-17, 7:13 pm

Government satellites recorded Edmund saying:
>
> After installing updates today, epiphany doesn't seem to download some files
> anymore, or is the file missing?
>
> ----------------
> http://greekgreek.mylivepage.com/fi...Key.bin_ToH9.1_
> New_01_key_Polsat_Digital%2B_Cabo_PW_17.08.07b.zip
> -----------------


Page opened fine and I got the file. It is NOT a ZIP tho'.

> Now I want to try firefox but how do I install that in Debian etch? I
> downloaded firefox (firefox-2.0.0.6.tar.gz) from
> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/ Cannot find a simple howto on the
> firefox site, can someone tell me step by step how to make this firefox
> working on my system/
>


Unpack it where you want it and execute the file from there. I've done it in my
~/ without problems. However, Iceweasel *IS* Firefox re-branded.

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sk8r-365

2007-08-17, 7:13 pm

Government satellites recorded Edmund saying:
<snip>
> I downloaded firefox (firefox-2.0.0.6.tar.gz) from
> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/
> Cannot find a simple howto on the firefox site,
> can someone tell me step by step how to make this
> firefox working on my system/


BTW, forgot to mention this step by step:
1) run the file called "firefox"; click it or do it from
a terminal
2) use FF

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Edmund

2007-08-17, 7:13 pm

sk8r-365 wrote:

> Government satellites recorded Edmund saying:
> <snip>
>
> BTW, forgot to mention this step by step:
> 1) run the file called "firefox"; click it or do it from
> a terminal


Clicking it doesn't do a thing.
in terminal I get "command not found"
"firefox" IS in the folder.

> 2) use FF


"command not found" that can be right this time,
because there isn't anything called "FF" in this folder.

Edmund

Dirk Hartmann

2007-08-17, 7:13 pm

>> downloaded firefox (firefox-2.0.0.6.tar.gz) from
>
> Unpack it where you want it and execute the file from there. I've done it
> in my ~/ without problems. However, Iceweasel *IS* Firefox re-branded.
>


Hello,

just to say it more concretely: executing means

open a shell
go to the firefox folder
type ./firefox

Sure enough you can create a short cut on the desktop with the command entry
'/home/myname/firefox/firefox' or wherever you unpacked the zip

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Edmund

2007-08-17, 7:13 pm

sk8r-365 wrote:

> Government satellites recorded Edmund saying:
>
> Page opened fine and I got the file. It is NOT a ZIP tho'.


The page opens here too but nothing is downloaded.
In the mean time there is a message on the page
"Bandwidth limit exceeded" which could be the problem.
BTW it must be a zip file.
>
>
> Unpack it where you want it and execute the file from there. I've done it
> in my ~/ without problems. However, Iceweasel *IS* Firefox re-branded.


I briefly tested iceweasel and it gave me other problems.
Beside that, what is the fun of renaming programs when it
is the same thing?


Edmund

Edmund

2007-08-17, 7:13 pm

Dirk Hartmann wrote:

>
> Hello,
>
> just to say it more concretely: executing means
>
> open a shell
> go to the firefox folder
> type ./firefox


here I get:
../firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot
open shared object file: No such file or directory

At least something happens :-)

Edmund



Dirk Hartmann

2007-08-17, 7:13 pm

Edmund wrote:

> here I get:
> ./firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5:
> cannot
> open shared object file: No such file or directory


Hello,

the problem is your libstdc is too old. This has been often reported, just
google "libstdc++.so.5: cannot " and "firefox". I had the same problem. At
least I guess you'll find no /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 in the lib directory
but an older version.
1) Either you have to upgrade your debian distro. But after I upgraded to
Debian Sarge stable everything works fine. (The safest way ist: e.g. if you
use debain woody
a) update carefully your /etc/apt/sources.list and then
b) run e.g apt-get dist-upgrade
But be sure that you know what you're doing)
2) You have to use an older Firefox release. Don't know which, you have to
try.

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sk8r-365

2007-08-17, 7:13 pm

Government satellites recorded Edmund saying:
> sk8r-365 wrote:
>
>
> The page opens here too but nothing is downloaded.
> In the mean time there is a message on the page
> "Bandwidth limit exceeded" which could be the problem.
> BTW it must be a zip file.


You have to click on the link at the top of the page with the file
name. No, it's not a valid ZIP even tho' there's a ZIP extension. It
is a Key.

> I briefly tested iceweasel and it gave me other problems.
> Beside that, what is the fun of renaming programs when it
> is the same thing?
>


It was re-branded due to legal issues and Debian's FOSS approach. If
you can't do it in iceweasel then it ain't happening with FF. I have
the link working in FF, IW, Epiphany and links2 - all can download the
ZIP.

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s. keeling

2007-08-18, 1:16 am

Edmund <nomail@hotmail.com>:
>
> After installing updates today, epiphany doesn't seem to download
> some files anymore, or is the file missing?


I've no idea what that means, sorry.

> ----------------
> http://greekgreek.mylivepage.com/fi.../> 7.08.07b.zip
> -----------------
>
> Now I want to try firefox but how do I install that in Debian etch?
> I downloaded firefox (firefox-2.0.0.6.tar.gz) from
> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/


You're doing it wrong. In Debian, you set up /etc/apt/sources.list[*] to
point to your release (Etch), then:

aptitude update && aptitude upgrade && aptitude install iceweasel

[Once you've done "aptitude update && aptitude upgrade"[**], you don't
need to do "aptitude upgrade" again if no security updates have been
released.] "iceweasel" is Firefox re-branded.

> Cannot find a simple howto on the firefox site, can someone tell me
> step by step how to make this firefox working on my system/


No, it wouldn't be on the Firefox site. It would be on your distro's
site, debian.org. Try searching the archives of lists.debian.org
(google: "foo bar site:lists.debian.org"). In fact, spend a lot of
time on debian.org, and consider wiki.debian.org too. Searching
groups.google.com (Usenet News archives) is often useful too.


[*] My /etc/apt/sources.list (the multimedia and google lines are
optional, and if you don't need/want to compile from sources, the
"deb-src" lines are optional too):

------------------------------------
deb http://debian.mirror.rafal.ca/debian/ etch main non-free contrib
deb-src http://debian.mirror.rafal.ca/debian/ etch main non-free contrib
deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main
deb http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/ stable non-free
------------------------------------

[**] You can do much the same with apt-get, but aptitude works much
the same way as apt-get, and is recommended over apt-get. YMMV.


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s. keeling

2007-08-18, 1:16 am

Dirk Hartmann <blangiss_nospam@gmx.de>:
>
> 1) Either you have to upgrade your debian distro. But after I upgraded to
> Debian Sarge stable everything works fine. (The safest way ist: e.g. if you
> use debain woody


:-O Sarge is "old-stable". It'll soon reach End Of Life. Upgrade to
Etch! Woody is EOL!

> 2) You have to use an older Firefox release. Don't know which, you have to


No, he needs to use a newer version of Debian. Woody should no longer
be used (except on boxes that don't actually do anything, and are
never connected to anything). Etch is the currently supported Debian
stable.


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Gary Dale

2007-08-18, 1:16 am

Edmund wrote:
> After installing updates today, epiphany doesn't seem
> to download some files anymore, or is the file missing?
>
> ----------------
> http://greekgreek.mylivepage.com/fi.../> 7.08.07b.zip
> -----------------
>
> Now I want to try firefox but how do I install that
> in Debian etch?
> I downloaded firefox (firefox-2.0.0.6.tar.gz) from
> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/
> Cannot find a simple howto on the firefox site,
> can someone tell me step by step how to make this
> firefox working on my system/
>
> Edmund



If you skip all the details, the best way to run any distribution is to
use the tools provided with that distribution. Don't go out and
re-invent the wheel.

For Debian, that means using their package manager to install and remove
software. Usually you can do this by:
- opening a terminal
- su <enter>
- type in the root password <enter>
- apt-get update <enter>
- apt-get install <package name> <enter>

If you need to find out what a particular package name is, go to
debian.org and search the packages (there is a search tool). In your
case, you need to apt-get install iceweasel <enter>

You should also do an
- apt-get update <enter>
- apt-get dist-upgrade <enter>
from time to time to keep abreast of security updates.

You may prefer to install and use synaptic, which is a graphical tool to
handle packages.
Gary Dale

2007-08-18, 1:16 am

Edmund wrote:
> sk8r-365 wrote:
>
>
> Clicking it doesn't do a thing.
> in terminal I get "command not found"
> "firefox" IS in the folder.
>

you need to type in ./firefox & <enter>. The & backgrounds the process
so you get back the command prompt right away. The ./ is because Linux
does not search the current directory for executables.

>
> "command not found" that can be right this time,
> because there isn't anything called "FF" in this folder.
>
> Edmund
>

Mumia W.

2007-08-18, 7:13 am

On 08/17/2007 03:44 PM, Edmund wrote:
> Dirk Hartmann wrote:
>
> here I get:
> ../firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot
> open shared object file: No such file or directory
>
> At least something happens :-)
>
> Edmund
>
>
>


Install the libstdc++5 package.

Edmund

2007-08-19, 7:13 am

Gary Dale wrote:

> Edmund wrote:


>
>
> If you skip all the details, the best way to run any distribution is to
> use the tools provided with that distribution.


I understand that, but I could not find firefox.

> Don't go out and
> re-invent the wheel.


Hmm re-invent, that is what puzzles me a lot in
all those linux distributions.
Anyway I need to learn a lot more about linux
so I want to know how to install/compile packages
that are not ready for the package managers.
>
> For Debian, that means using their package manager to install and remove
> software. Usually you can do this by:
> - opening a terminal
> - su <enter>
> - type in the root password <enter>
> - apt-get update <enter>
> - apt-get install <package name> <enter>
>
> If you need to find out what a particular package name is, go to
> debian.org and search the packages (there is a search tool).


That is a good suggestion, thanks.


Thanks

Edmund
Edmund

2007-08-19, 7:13 am

Dirk Hartmann wrote:

> Edmund wrote:
>
>
> Hello,
>
> the problem is your libstdc is too old. This has been often reported, just
> google "libstdc++.so.5: cannot " and "firefox". I had the same problem. At
> least I guess you'll find no /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 in the lib directory
> but an older version.
> 1) Either you have to upgrade your debian distro. But after I upgraded to
> Debian Sarge stable everything works fine. (The safest way ist: e.g. if
> you use debain woody
> a) update carefully your /etc/apt/sources.list and then
> b) run e.g apt-get dist-upgrade
> But be sure that you know what you're doing)
> 2) You have to use an older Firefox release. Don't know which, you have to
> try.


Installing libstdc++.so5 solved the problem.
BTW I am running Etch and the latest firefox
release seems to work fine now.

Edmund

Edmund

2007-08-19, 7:13 am

sk8r-365 wrote:

> Government satellites recorded Edmund saying:
[vbcol=seagreen]
>
>
> It was re-branded due to legal issues and Debian's FOSS approach. If
> you can't do it in iceweasel then it ain't happening with FF. I have
> the link working in FF, IW, Epiphany and links2 - all can download the
> ZIP.


Thanks for testing that, I managed to download it
too now. I guess the bandwith limit from the site
caused the problem.

Edmund

Edmund

2007-08-19, 7:13 am

Edmund wrote:

Thanks you all guys.

Edmund
ml2mst

2007-08-19, 7:13 pm

Edmund wrote:
> Gary Dale wrote:
>
>
>
> I understand that, but I could not find firefox.
>
>
> Hmm re-invent, that is what puzzles me a lot in
> all those linux distributions.
> Anyway I need to learn a lot more about linux
> so I want to know how to install/compile packages
> that are not ready for the package managers.
>
> That is a good suggestion, thanks.


Or installing packages the easy way:

Debian also has a GUI package manager (Aptitude for GNOME or Adept for
KDE), which is probably in your menu > System and has a search field.

Firefox, for some weird reason is renamed in Etch to *Iceweazel*, which
is the reason your not able to find Firefox.

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