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Linux is a generation behind...
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| "The APIC is the Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller (a more
sophisticated mechanism for handling interrupts), not the clock."
No version of Linux that I have tried with "Live" disks supports APIC. Linux
is a generation behind the current state of technology.
-Pete
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| ArameFarpado 2007-08-08, 1:14 pm |
| Em Quarta, 8 de Agosto de 2007 18:29, Pete escreveu:
> "The APIC is the Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller (a more
> sophisticated mechanism for handling interrupts), not the clock."
>
> No version of Linux that I have tried with "Live" disks supports APIC.
> Linux is a generation behind the current state of technology.
> -Pete
>
CONFIG_X86_UP_APIC:
│
│
│
│ A local APIC (Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller) is an
│
│ integrated interrupt controller in the CPU. If you have a single-CPU
│
│ system which has a processor with a local APIC, you can say Y here to
│
│ enable and use it. If you say Y here even though your machine doesn't
│
│ have a local APIC, then the kernel will still run with no slowdown at
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│ all. The local APIC supports CPU-generated self-interrupts (timer,
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│ performance counters), and the NMI watchdog which detects hard
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│ lockups.
│
│
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│ Symbol: X86_UP_APIC [=y]
│
│ Prompt: Local APIC support on uniprocessors
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│ Defined at arch/i386/Kconfig:264
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│ Depends on: !SMP && !X86_VISWS && !X86_VOYAGER
│
│ Location:
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│ -> Processor type and features
this was taken from the help description of kernel compilation of kernel
2.6.18 (an old version)
live-cds are not fully funtional OSs, so it is natural that doesnt use this
featura, but installed OSs use it.
Linux had made the current tecnology XXXXXXX.
Give me a Windows Live-Cd for me to try windows without installing it...
will you?
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| Johnny Rebel 2007-08-08, 7:14 pm |
| ArameFarpado wrote:
<snip>
> Give me a Windows Live-Cd for me to try windows without installing it...
> will you?
>
<coughcough> DVD.
;)
JR.
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| ArameFarpado 2007-08-08, 7:14 pm |
| Em Quarta, 8 de Agosto de 2007 20:16, Johnny Rebel escreveu:
> ArameFarpado wrote:
> <snip>
>
> <coughcough> DVD.
>
> ;)
>
> JR.
>
>
what do you mean? is there a live dvd that we can try Windows XP or vista
without installing it?
why a dvd? windows usally came in a cd that only 20% of it is installing
software, the rest is all crap.
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| Johnny Rebel 2007-08-08, 7:14 pm |
| ArameFarpado wrote:
> Em Quarta, 8 de Agosto de 2007 20:16, Johnny Rebel escreveu:
>
> what do you mean? is there a live dvd that we can try Windows XP or vista
> without installing it?
>
> why a dvd? windows usally came in a cd that only 20% of it is installing
> software, the rest is all crap.
>
>
Simply due to the size of Windows... a "live" version would never fit on
a CD.....
JR.
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| ArameFarpado 2007-08-08, 7:14 pm |
| Em Quarta, 8 de Agosto de 2007 22:27, Johnny Rebel escreveu:
>
> Simply due to the size of Windows... a "live" version would never fit on
> a CD.....
>
Can't Windows be minimized ? LOL ;)
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| On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 17:27:37 -0400, Johnny Rebel wrote:
> ArameFarpado wrote:
>
> Simply due to the size of Windows... a "live" version would never fit on
> a CD.....
>
> JR.
OK, so what is the URL for the Live DVD??
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| Johnny Rebel 2007-08-08, 7:14 pm |
| ray wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 17:27:37 -0400, Johnny Rebel wrote:
>
>
> OK, so what is the URL for the Live DVD??
>
www.nevergoingtohappen.com
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| On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 17:29:34 +0000, Pete wrote:
> No version of Linux that I have tried with "Live" disks supports APIC. Linux
> is a generation behind the current state of technology.
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| ArameFarpado wrote:
> Can't Windows be minimized ? LOL ;)
Yes, to wind, like 'gone with the wind'. Re-lol.
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"ArameFarpado" <a-farpado.spam@netcabo.pt> wrote in message
news:46ba389f$0$90264$14726298@news.sunsite.dk...
> Em Quarta, 8 de Agosto de 2007 22:27, Johnny Rebel escreveu:
>
installing[vbcol=seagreen]
> Can't Windows be minimized ? LOL ;)
Yes, Format C:
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| sk8r-365 2007-08-09, 1:13 pm |
| Government satellites recorded Paul saying:
> ArameFarpado wrote:
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> Yes, to wind, like 'gone with the wind'. Re-lol.
*I* minimized Windows for a friend after installing Linux - put the disk thru
his electric shredder.
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"Dan C" <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.08.09.02.20.36.53245@lan.invalid...
> On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 17:29:34 +0000, Pete wrote:
>
>
>
> ___________________
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> ||__|| | Please do |
> / O O\__ NOT |
> / \ feed the |
> / \ \ trolls |
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> / \|_|_|/ \ __||
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> *-- _--\ _ \ // |
> / _ \\ _ // | /
> * / \_ /- | - | |
> * ___ c_c_c_C/ \C_c_c_c____________
>
>
So you apply a magical fix to the ADVANCED Apic. Then ask yourself why it's
necessary if Linux is state of the art.
"The APIC is the Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller (a more
sophisticated mechanism for handling interrupts), not the clock."
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"ArameFarpado" <a-farpado.spam@netcabo.pt> wrote in message
news:46ba038c$0$90273$14726298@news.sunsite.dk...
> Em Quarta, 8 de Agosto de 2007 18:29, Pete escreveu:
>
> CONFIG_X86_UP_APIC:
> ?
> ?
> ?
> ? A local APIC (Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller) is an
> ?
> ? integrated interrupt controller in the CPU. If you have a single-CPU
> ?
> ? system which has a processor with a local APIC, you can say Y here to
> ?
> ? enable and use it. If you say Y here even though your machine doesn't
> ?
> ? have a local APIC, then the kernel will still run with no slowdown at
> ?
> ? all. The local APIC supports CPU-generated self-interrupts (timer,
> ?
> ? performance counters), and the NMI watchdog which detects hard
> ?
> ? lockups.
> ?
> ?
> ?
> ? Symbol: X86_UP_APIC [=y]
> ?
> ? Prompt: Local APIC support on uniprocessors
> ?
> ? Defined at arch/i386/Kconfig:264
> ?
> ? Depends on: !SMP && !X86_VISWS && !X86_VOYAGER
> ?
> ? Location:
> ?
> ? -> Processor type and features
>
>
> this was taken from the help description of kernel compilation of kernel
> 2.6.18 (an old version)
>
> live-cds are not fully funtional OSs, so it is natural that doesnt use
> this
> featura, but installed OSs use it.
>
> Linux had made the current tecnology XXXXXXX.
> Give me a Windows Live-Cd for me to try windows without installing it...
> will you?
>
So, XXXXXXX (seems to be the obligatory manner of address), if I actually
install Fedora 7 it will work with APIC? Really defeats the purpose of a
Live CD. Thanks.
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| ArameFarpado 2007-08-09, 1:13 pm |
| Em Quinta, 9 de Agosto de 2007 15:04, Pete escreveu:
> So, XXXXXXX (seems to be the obligatory manner of address), if I actually
> install Fedora 7 it will work with APIC? Really defeats the purpose of a
> Live CD. Thanks.
And what are the purposes of a live-cd to you, XXXXXXX?
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| On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 19:22:30 -0400, Johnny Rebel wrote:
> ray wrote:
>
> www.nevergoingtohappen.com
I went there - could not find it.
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| "Pete" <Pete@nospam.com> writes:
>So you apply a magical fix to the ADVANCED Apic. Then ask yourself why it's
>necessary if Linux is state of the art.
Oh, get off the pot, you are stinking up the place. Your particular
motherboard has an incompetently implimented APIC, so something breaks when
it tries to run Linux. And you blame Linux. Millions of machines run Linux
with APIC enabled. (I have 10 from 1998 vintage machines to this year's)
all running apic. You bought a dud and blame Linux.
>"The APIC is the Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller (a more
>sophisticated mechanism for handling interrupts), not the clock."
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| Johnny Rebel 2007-08-10, 1:13 am |
| ray wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 19:22:30 -0400, Johnny Rebel wrote:
>
>
> I went there - could not find it.
>
Must be a Windows Live DVD DNS server you are using.....
JR.
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| ArameFarpado 2007-08-10, 1:13 am |
| Em Sexta, 10 de Agosto de 2007 01:22, Johnny Rebel escreveu:
> Must be a Windows Live DVD DNS server you are using.....
>
> JR.
>
>
eheheheheheh
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Unruh wrote:
> "Pete" <Pete@nospam.com> writes:
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>
>
> Oh, get off the pot, you are stinking up the place. Your particular
> motherboard has an incompetently implimented APIC, so something breaks when
> it tries to run Linux. And you blame Linux. Millions of machines run Linux
> with APIC enabled. (I have 10 from 1998 vintage machines to this year's)
> all running apic. You bought a dud and blame Linux.
>
>
I have the same problem with ALL my most recent machines, except one Dell.
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| On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 21:03:31 -0400, Pete wrote:
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> I have the same problem with ALL my most recent machines, except one Dell.
That's because you're a moronic imbecile.
Linux is not for you, dimwit. Stick with windoze.
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| Christoph Egger 2007-08-21, 7:14 pm |
| Johnny Rebel schrieb:
> ArameFarpado wrote:
> <snip>
>
> <coughcough> DVD.
>
> ;)
>
> JR.
>
>
There _is_ actually a way to produce a Vista Live *CD* with a M$ Tool.
I would never had believed it but I have actually bootet such a CD once.
Nothing against a Debian or Ubuntu Live CD which allows quite a lot of
what the OS is able to do but it works
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| AJackson 2007-08-23, 1:14 am |
| On Aug 10, 3:03 am, Pete <P...@nospam.com> wrote:
> Unruh wrote:
>
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> I have the same problem with ALL my most recent machines, except one Dell.
Known BIOS problem on some machines. THATS why Lice Linux CD's don't
activate it.
Would render the Live CD useless on some machines. Better then to
have all work, but not
with full optimized kernel (which will give problems to a few
machines).
Install and you get it all, as you can adjust if needed.
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| Mo Neal 2007-09-03, 1:16 pm |
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"Johnny Rebel" <rebelATT@magmaDOTT.ca> wrote
> Give me a Windows Live-Cd for me to try windows without installing it...
> will you?
What difference does that make? The Linux live CD is the best way to run
Linux because you can't do anything worthy with it. Once you install Linux
on your hard drive with the intent of putting it to work, it goes to shit
(usually the same day) 
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| SINNER 2007-09-03, 7:14 pm |
| * Mo Neal wrote in alt.os.linux.debian:
> "Johnny Rebel" <rebelATT@magmaDOTT.ca> wrote
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> What difference does that make? The Linux live CD is the best way to run
> Linux because you can't do anything worthy with it. Once you install Linux
> on your hard drive with the intent of putting it to work, it goes to shit
> (usually the same day)
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| SINNER 2007-09-14, 7:12 pm |
| * MCR wrote in alt.os.linux.debian:
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> LOL... I think I last used that POS in Windows98, not even Win98SE
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